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Mark Dodsworth

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Putting two and two together

There has been a lot of behind the scenes changes at Google+ recently but not much in view. I would love to know what happened in April for Vic to suddenly depart the job he very clearly loved. I'm guessing that Larry sat him down and said that he wanted Hangouts and Photos stripped out of his product and he didn't like that.

Here is the timeline of events that made me jump to that conclusion:
October 29th 2013; Vic Gundotra announces amazing new features for Hangouts and Google+ Photos; http://youtu.be/al0k1Dia6E0

December 25th 2013; Google+ employee states that ‘’Google is evolving into Google+’’; http://www.livemint.com/Leisure/7YGa4KkrBFRcKKCVkurjzL/Steve-Grove-Google-could-do-for-live-video-what-YouTube-d.html

April 4th 2014: Vic posted asking to meet up to collect G+ ideas; https://plus.google.com/107117483540235115863/posts/djhcaTe1ddW

April 24th 2014: Vic Gundotra quits Google & (Rumor) Google+ is bring split up, Sundar Pichai to take over?; http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/24/google-is-walking-dead/

June 5th 2014: Hangouts doesn't open profile in G+ Android; http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/06/05/hangouts-breaks-up-with-google/

July 15th 2014: Real name policy removed (Vic was a strong supporter in this); https://plus.google.com/+googleplus/posts/V5XkYQYYJqy

July 30th 2014: Multiway video chat in hangouts without G+; http://googleappsupdates.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/hangouts-video-calls-for-all.html?m=1

August 1st 2014: (Rumor) G+ to split with Photos; http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-08-01/google-said-to-plan-separating-photo-service-from-google-

August 28th 2014: G+ Authorship removed; https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JohnMueller/posts/HZf3KDP1Dm8

October 3rd 2014: Photos app launches on Android with separate design than the G+ stream; http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/10/03/google-app-updated-to-4-6-with-inverted-fab-bolder-colors-moar-material-in-general-apk-download/

October 7th 2014: Dave Desbris denies that the Google+ team is being split up; http://recode.net/2014/10/07/new-google-head-david-besbris-were-here-for-the-long-haul-qa/?utm_content=buffere382c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=plus.google.com&utm_campaign=buffer

October 24th 2014: Sundar Pichai now in charge of G+; http://recode.net/2014/10/24/google-ceo-larry-page-reorgs-staff-anoints-sundar-pichai-as-new-product-czar/

September 10th 2014: G+ not required for Hangouts; http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/09/11/google-continues-to-pry-google-loose-from-hangouts-with-the-latest-update/

September 19th 2014: G+ not a requirement when signing up for a Google account; http://marketingland.com/google-plus-drops-mandatory-link-to-gmail-100826

Feburary 4th 2015; Vic Uses an iPhone, praises Microsoft apps; https://plus.google.com/107117483540235115863/posts/3K4L27VmQwj

February 11th 2015: Photos icon appears in Drive; http://phandroid.com/2015/02/10/google-drive-create-google-photos-folder-setting/

February 26th 2015: Sundar Pichai “I think increasingly you’ll see us focus on communications, photos and the Google+ Stream as three important areas, rather than being thought of as one area,”http://www.forbes.com/sites/miguelhelft/2015/02/26/exclusive-sundar-pichais-plan-to-keep-google-almighty/

If i've missed anything let me know.
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+Julian Bond the improvements I've seen are Stories, Polls and mobile redesign but these are nothing compared to what came in the years before.
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Adam Cartwright

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Not sure if its been like this for a while but the +1 share and comment icons appear to be more material-like
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It was an update they'd been testing out for a few days, normal AB testing, and starting very late yesterday they began rolling it out
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It seems on the Android app the icons for +1, comment and share have been revamped. Have you seen this +Google Plus Daily​? #googleplusupdates 
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Maybe they are testing it.  I hope it's a sign that profile is online.
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Alex Reusch
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Google still messes with people suggestions
Now Trey Ratcliff, who I follow since the very first days of G+...

Go home Google, you're drunk!

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I got the same suggestion 5-6 times for one... That's screwed up.
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Nicolas Costa

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Better than their on app, I'm at one step of uninstalling the app, omg.
 
Today we’re excited to announce the new and improved Google+ experience for mobile web. We focused on making everything faster, more beautiful, and more intuitive. To check out all the new updates, visit plus.google.com on your phone or tablet’s browser.  
As always, we’d love to hear what you think!  

#googleplusupdate
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You can view this on a desktop Chrome with 
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream You'll also need to change the user agent to something like Chrome on iPhone to get some of the functions.

Now maybe the rollout hasn't reached me yet, but I can't see any changes. And there's still very little love for Location. "Nearby" is still as useless as ever.
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yznn Garandel

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Is this new? (the star and the "recommended for you" header) 
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It's working for me like for a month or so now. Looks like using your Browsing/Search history as well :)
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Anthony Raffini

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I just noticed that gifs have a progress bar on android. Very helpful.
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It's moments like these that it'd be nice to post an image in a comment. I can't even edit the post to include a picture. http://imgur.com/rjmkIcP
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Alex Reusch
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What will happen to G+ Photos?
The Google+ Photos App for Chrome just got new internal competition. Put your photos on Photos or on Drive? Which is the way to go?
 
Backing up your media device's photos and videos has never been easier thanks to the experimental Cloud Backup feature in the Files App since the last Dev Update.

Insert any removable media device such as a USB key or a SD Card which contains at its root the famous DCIM folder. Then, navigate to this folder and notice the "cloud" icon at the very top right corner. Click on it and you're done! Your photos and videos will be automatically synced to your Google Drive under a newly created photos folder.

And the cool thing is that you can view & manage photos & videos stored in your Google Drive from Google+. Read https://support.google.com/plus/answer/3259546 if you want to learn more.

Source: https://codereview.chromium.org/914353004
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Take it easy guys. It's nice to see, that an open discussion about this topic is going on. Nobody needs to agree, different views and opinions are allowed and welcome!
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Nikita Remez

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Small, but visual improvement.
The "online status" green line has been moved on the Hangouts web client's chat window. Before it was above the action buttons. I think it is more visible now.
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I just wish the mobile app versions did something like this, it's hard to know if somebody is online or if they have gone offline in the middle of a text conversation. 
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Mohamed Magdy

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+Google+ +Google+ Developers +Google+ Help 
i suggest to add a small icon and the name for your Google+ notifications for posts on Communities
i think it will be more helpful
anybody agree with me ? !!

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http://i.imgur.com/NLRSFPA.png

#googleplus   #notifications   #communities   #suggestions   #googleplusupdate  
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Mohsin Rafiq

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If am on video call and press back, video doesn't go on hold as before and It comes like this on iOS. I think this is new.
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Mohamed Magdy

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Well how you use them on G+ probably won't change or at least not too much
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Aaron Lewis

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I noticed a few days ago there was a thin blue progress bar under gif images to show their loading progress, on mobile at least. It is not there anymore. I don't know if this was A B testing or something, but it was very helpful. It gave me a good indicator of whether or not I had time/patience/attention span to wait or to move along. Anyone know more about this? +Google+​
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And it's back. I must have just glanced over it somehow. This is a great feature.
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Mohamed Magdy

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  Google Plus has come a long way since it originally launched a few years ago and contrary to what some people say, the network is most certainly not
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Alex Reusch
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G+ f..ks up people suggestions
I am already following Marques for ages. Why do you show me this again? When I select follow, it then shows me that I am already following him. And no matter how many times I swipe this suggestion away, it always comes back. Ahhhhhh!!!!!!
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I have made a similar post in this community here: https://plus.google.com/107371686203557725959/posts/VwLfpund1Lq (5 Dec, 2014)

And mentioned the topic briefly here: https://plus.google.com/107371686203557725959/posts/PnY1ooiXczr (4 Nov, 2013)

The stuff mentioned in this thread is a persisting problem that seems to fall on deaf ears.  

Self quotes, a.k.a. TL; DR:
- "These suggestion boxes do not take feedback very well, so it is only natural that over the time (and negatively proportionate to the time users invest into their profiles, unfortunately) they become more and more useless."
- "Most of the profiles recommended by Add People do not have active posts that I can see.  Many of them have last posts as old as two years."
- "I am sure g+ is not a ghost town.  My streams confirm that g+ is not a ghost town.  But this Add People feature sure does a damn good job convincing me that it is."
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Alex Reusch
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Opinion: Community posts in Home stream kill the G+ circle experience
This is my personal opinion. Feel free to express your own. But I really believe, that the way community posts are shown in your Home stream, is killing the G+ circle experience.

Here is why:
Before G+ Communities existed, you needed to discover people who posted quality content. People who shared the same passion or hobby. People with outstanding content. This was the only way, to make your Home stream filled with interesting posts.

That all changed with Communities. When you join a community, per default the posts are shown in your Home stream. Gone is the necessity to discover by your own. Why should you create a photography circle? Why one for F1 fans around the world? Communities solve that all, not? I think: It killed the circle system.

When you circle someone, you not only get the post of a specific topic. No, you see everything that this person shares with you. So potentially also stuff you don't care about. But that's also the great thing about G+ Circles: It connects people. You quickly start to learn new things and you get to know the person in you circled much better. OK, there might be people which fill your stream with content you don't like or care about. But this makes you chose wisely the people you circle and how you setup your circles.

I think that many communities today are full of spam or simply have a lot of bad quality posts (just check some of the photography communities). This has a direct impact in my Home stream. Some larger communities get so many posts per day, that they would simply take over my Home stream completely. By the actual quality of many communities, I doubt to find the "content kings". So the chance to only get the top quality posts in my stream, when working with the noise control (amount settings), is almost zero.

With a broken Circle system, how do you connect with people on G+? Most of my circle activies go back to the pre-community era.

My proposal for G+:
1.) Remove community posts from Home stream
2.) Create a quick access possibility for your favorite communities

Important option:
- Possibility to select categories of a community

Let's have a discussion about pro and cons of community posts in your Home stream! What do you think about this topic?
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+Rajesh Narayanan That was my whole point, it only works in Chrome.
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Lindsey Spahr

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we are trying to use hangouts as our business chat.  There are a few things that really hold me back from optimum usability.  I have a team that we've added everyone into a "group hangout" and have renamed the hangout so we know the name.  I'd like to be able to type in the search box and those hangouts that we have going would pop up so an instant message could be sent.  Also, we've had team members leave our organization and we have rely on them to leave the hangout.  I'd like a way to "boot" people you no longer want in the hang out  :)
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BL bull null null
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Mohsin Rafiq

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iOS update!
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I don't even use that....
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Rick Dickson

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Why does +Mr. Jingles look like this?
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Oh, Chinese New Year? I guess that makes more sense than what I was thinking. Last week the Valentine's Day "kisses" actually made it look like it had chicken pox or something, I figured maybe now he was running a very bad fever. Glad to know he's ok, I was worried about the little dude.
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Alex Reusch
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PushBullet - the next acquisition of Google...
...to fix the Hangouts Gap?

Don't know, if this is a good idea. They would most likely fuck it up. Good examples are: Emu & Meebo
PushBullet for Android, an app that provides mirrored notifications and file transfers between your smartphone and desktop PC, has today announced that you can now respond directly ...
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That's one thing that would close the Hangouts gap.
The other thing would be for Google to create a downloadable Hangouts app (like Skype) that would work without the user having to have Google Chrome or use a mobile device.
Of course, I'd prefer that everyone use the Chrome browser but not everyone uses it or would even want to use it.
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