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This is Clay Tumey. He used to rob banks. Now he's going to teach the Enneagram in prisons! I supported his Kickstarter campaign & hope you'll consider it, too. I'm actually going to meet him with I do Part 3 training (Riso & Hudson) in mid-June.
Clay Tumey is raising funds for The Blue Chip Store on Kickstarter! How bank robbery changed my life. A true story about crime, prison, and second chances.
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We are brought up to want to be special & to ascribe greater value to those we perceive as special. Let's overcome that superego message and get free!
I confess that I love—and own—the movie “Fight Club.” I know that seems an odd choice for a middle-aged woman, but the movie speaks a partial truth that needs to be heard. My favorite line from the...
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New blog post: How to Get Along with Your Coworkers.
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"Find common ground" - so good! So often, we focus on differences rather than on commonality.
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Jeff Erbskorn

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Thank you. Yes, I have led several staff and church council retreats. When they learn the enneagram types around the table and note which types or centers are missing it is very easy for them to see which part of congregational life and mission may be under or over represented. Also, easy to compassionately understand why Fives get stuck in data collection, Sixes maybe throwing out the anchor when Eights just want to set sail. Also helps them remember the 11th commandment..."Thou shalt not take thy self too damn seriously."
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Samuel Fridh

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I have started a Wikia page about the enneagram; I figured it may be useful to have a page with information that is gathered at one place. You can access it here: http://the-enneagram.wikia.com/wiki/Type_Nine?venotify=created
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New #Enneagram blog post: Learn how knowing your Instincts helps with meeting your relationship needs.
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I liked your description of the SP instinct. I find that a lot of enneagram literature is too focused on describing it as being about health, hearth, money etc. As you point out, it may express itself that way, but it most of all focuses on seeking to preserve the self in a more grounded, physical way. 
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And...here are my thoughts on the Six. Agree? Disagree? Please share your insights! Some of my favorite people have this personality type.
We remain in the Head Center this week with an exploration of Type Six. A joke in the Enneagram world is that if you can’t figure out which type you are, you’re probably a Six. That’s because the S...
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Well, it' spot-on because it comes from the mouth of a 6 :P I don't profess to understand type 6 or the head center sufficiently to claim that this is understanding or knowledge I have produced on my own. I agree though, that head types suffer from the sense of not quite knowing what is to come, so to say. They end up dealing with this in the different ways the head types do, so 5s get profoundly caught up in trying to figure it out. Would they truly know, they know how to manage it, whereas 6s are focused on this action in itself, what is coming and how do I know if it's going to last or happen at all?, whereas 7s are more focused on trying to accomplish that inner direction with their own means, I don't know what is to come so I will attempt to experience all of it as to not be left out. 

And I definitely will, when I stop procrastinating.
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The ultimate Seven song! I can't imagine most of the other Types writing it. :)
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Now I'm going to try to find my 6 song!

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Jeffrey Brown

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5w6, so/sx/sp. 584.  I am an advisory board member for a local enneagram group in my area (Las Vegas). I'm happy to share whatever I know. 
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Great to be here +Susan Wilkinson! As a 5, you are probably aware my interests are all over the map. While I may be a skeptic in some ways, the Enneagram does seem to provide the right sort of "handles" for just about anyone whose interested to get an idea of themselves and use that knowledge to grow as a person.  I am quite interested in the exploration of the psyche in all its many forms. 
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Kristian Hailey

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What's up guys. Its been a while since I took the enneagram. I remember I'm type 5 but I can't remember my subtypes or wings. What is a good link for a test to find out?
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Personally, I am strongly of the idea of not advocating tests; tests only tend to tell you that which you already know which, if you have yet to begin to unravel your own introspection journey, will not be much. I for example often, if not always, score 5 on tests. I am not a 5 but an 8. I tend to score 5 because in the MBTI I am an INTJ and thus thinking activity, especially theory, is something close to my heart. There is a lot of unfortunate overlap this way, in that INTx types often end up typing as 5 on tests  but may be a very different type in actuality. Common types are 6 and 9, other than 5, based on my own statistics. 

So therefore, the best typing tool is introspection. There is no cheap and short way to figure out your type more than high level of self-awareness and gaining a decent understanding of the types and the system.
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New blog post: The Cross-Cultural Enneagram.
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Great points! I feel this lines up with the principles of sociology. I look forward to reading more of your posts :-) 
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My latest blog post. Would love to read your thoughts on this!
For a while now, I’ve been experiencing significant peace throughout much of each day. Even as deadlines swirl around me and terrible things happen around the world. It’s been pretty great. Then I ...
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 Good deal Heath!  Reminds me of that quote: "Even if I knew that tomorrow the world would go to pieces, I would still plant my apple tree." 
Martin Luther
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New blog post: Resolving Conflict with the Enneagram. 
Think back to the last time you got into a conflict. Did you see the situation one way while the other person had a completely different way of looking at things? Maybe you wanted to work things ou...
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Ha - I just wrote a post about conflict! Posting it here now.
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New blog post: Finding Wisdom in Your Enneagram Type.
  This past weekend, Kacie volunteered at the Wisdom 2.0 Conference in San Francisco. In an era where mindfulness practices are increasingly utilized in the business and tech world, Wisdom 2.0...
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Kacie's new travel article, #Spain, #Portugal, and an #Enneagram  Conference, is out!
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New blog post: What #Enneagram types do you see in your community? Here are some we've found in San Francisco neighborhoods.
Enneagram types are not only found in people. They also exist in the spirits of places and cultures. When we traveled to Portugal for the European Enneagram Conference last year, we found ourselves...
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Éric SALMON

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Hello Everybody, If you speak french this survey is for you... It's about Enneagram and credibility !!! Please, answer and i will give you results in english ;)

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Votre avis nous intéresse !!! Merci de répondre à ce questionnaire. Eric Salmon
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Hi Eric.
I am from the Czech Republic. Please version in English. Thank you.
Ladislav.
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Dinah Donovon

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Ok...I am going to TRY to nutshell this and any feedback would be appreciated. It involves FOURS and ONES. 

I am an introverted, artistic Type 4 and have actually tested over 600 people during the course of a decade long study because I was finding patterns within the Enneagram and I wanted to write a book on it, but not until I had tested over 1000 people.

In that time I of course tested all my friends, lovers, family (found that I had A LOT of 5's around me.. seemed to get along with them very well.... though I am with a 7,oddly enough... and have been for nearly as many years.)

I learned to spot certain types well.... HOWEVER.. because I was working on notes for the book, I usually typed "new people" within a week or two of meeting them.. I made a friend in the 90's.. and just in the 3 weeks it took me to have the time to test him, he was rubbing me the wrong way. 

He ended up being an extreme Type One. He is the only "Type One" to ever be in my inner circle because I have often tested people I already didn't like and SURPRISE they are a 1 or an 8.

A decade later that male type 1 was stalking me across four states and I had to take out several restraining orders, he would find me no matter where I went. He would send me dozens of letters of love and then the following day 3 letters about what a "fucking disgusting whore" I was... then the following day, 5 letters (handwritten, snail mail) excusing his drunken letters from 'yesterday', I am "a Goddess" and "nobody could ever love me like he did".

You get the picture.. This severe TYPE One was unhealthy and PSYCHO. Since my Type 7 Partner is only a few inches from being 7 feet tall when wearing his boots, the stalker has laid off in recent years, thankfully. (I'm not saying that Type Ones are stalkers. I had a second stalker years later in NYC who I am ashamed to say was a 4, like me, so stalking and type are not connected.)

But here is the bizarre thing: as an introverted 4, I have a few friends that go back YEARS, I am slow to make new ones, and my loyalty and devotion run DEEP.... so my friends, I have known HALF of my life but they are all over the globe now, you know?!  So a year ago I met a neighbor... was friendly. Started emailing each other though she lived above me like 9 months ago... and about 6 months ago, we became fast friends.. I walked her dog, watched her kids, you name it (A Four's love and friendship is intense and so she had many crisis's and I was Johnny-on-the-Spot for each and every one of them). 

I kept putting off testing her....just never had the time to sit down and do it properly .. I seriously thought she'd be a 2.... it fit.. the niceness.... with the drama when felt unappreciated.... So I tested her.... and she scored as the highest female Type One I have EVER tested... in fact... her Male counterpart was the crazy guy who had stalked me since he was in his 30's and I was 16!!

I was confused.. I have tested 650 plus people...  and she, the best female friend I had made in almost a decade... was the ONE TYPE I usually CAN'T STAND?!?! But I brushed it off.... thought maybe I'd retest her later on.. maybe it's different if you were a "healthy female"...

THEN DONNA REED TORE HER FACE OFF and A PSYCHO KILLER was under there!! Seriously, I forgot about it after testing her... her kids had come to call me Aunt Dinah. I started a fundraiser to help her out financially.. everyday she wrote me how she didn't know what she would do without my friendship and I would see what she wanted from the store, we'd take her kids to the library, walk her dog... Keys to each others house (I had hers so I could walk her dog, she had mine after their toilet broke so they could just come in and use the guest bathroom...) Then about 10 days ago, out of the CLEAR BLUE SKY (EXACTLY LIKE With the 'Type 1' Stalker I had), I awoke to 5 or 6 increasingly horrible and bizarre rants, emails,  threats, texts, and just crazy s&^T. My husband, his mother, and MY MUM (an actual psychotherapist) said this was Bipolar/Manic Depression to the 10th degree. 

I am trying to calm her down and the nicer I am, the more crazy and wild her allegations get until finally, at 3:30 in the MORNING, she is THROWING things at our front door, SCREAMING in our UPSCALE ENCLOSED condo building that she is "praying to god to make me crippled for life so I can't have children" (I walk with a cane right now until I have surgery this summer to fix my back and can't have a family til them... it's a cruel thing to say to a woman collecting baby clothes), that I am a JUNKIE (because I told her to give her 16 year old a break when he got his FIRST GIRLFRIEND because at 16, I was drinking, drugging, AND having sex so he was a GOOD KID!!) and (the worst of them all) she screamed that she was calling the police because my husband was a Pedophile (He's NEVER been alone with her sons... and in fact, he only gets violent about 3 things: people hurting his family, people hurting animals, and people hurting children.... He told me before when we saw a news story about some sicko that "if that ever happens with one of our future kids, I hope you will visit me in jail because I will GLADLY do 5 years for beating a pervert to a pulp!!") So screaming that she prays god makes me a barren cripple forever and that we are Pedophiles and Junkies at close to 4 in the morning... 2 days after I gave her almost 400 to help her pay her rent.....made no sense.

We BEGGED her to PLEASE call the police because we have nothing to hide, just lots of texts and emails from her sounding crazy.. I guess she couldn't get her teenager or 11 year old son to falsely accuse us of anything because no cops were called.

That is just 20 percent of it, but you catch my drift.

I have ONLY been in FEAR for my SAFETY a few times and in two of them, they were by EXTREME and UNHEALTHY Type Ones.

::Disclaimer:: Type Ones, I am NOT saying you are paranoid, insane, or ANYTHING like that AT ALL.. we have good and bad of every type, just like there are good and bad people in every group

However like I said, I have NEVER SEEN such DRAMATIC INSANITY (like following me around four states and finding out where I worked and lived although I was unlisted or being a nice, loving mother and friend in the morning than at night calling me and mine "satanic pedophile junkies" (we don't even drink.))

Is there -something- in a Type One THAT WHEN MIXED/PAIRED with a mental illness or chemical dependency (I suspect both of both people but I am CERTAIN the male was an alcoholic and the female is a pill popper but for "pain" I never see, not for a disorder we are certain is there) can make them Jekyll and Hyde like this?!? 

Has ANYBODY experienced an UNHEALTHY one (be it mentally, drugs, whatever) spiral so drastically and quickly?!? Or is this just some bizarre coincidence?!?

LASTLY, AGAIN, Type 1's, I am not implying or saying that your type has such tendencies.... I was just wondering if anyone of this type or close to someone that is a 1 but ALSO has mental or chemical problems has seen this manifest like this before or is it just a creepy coincidence?!?
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New blog post; hope it serves you! Would love to receive your comments/questions/perspectives.
  I’ve been a writer ever since I could hold a pencil. I’ve also been a movie lover since early childhood. More specifically, a lover of story. I used to make up stories about the people I saw...
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Thanks, Tami! Hope your day is great.
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I have a Four female friend with a 13-year-old Seven daughter. Any ideas on how the mom can gently shepherd her child by using the wisdom of the Enneagram? She sees some negative Seven behaviors that she wants to know how to deal with.
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Thank you, +Jeffrey Brown ! I passed that on to my friend.
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