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Yik Sheng Lee
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Before Obsidius, There Was Hanno

In the 5th century BCE, the Carthaginian explorer Hanno sailed beyond the Pillars of Hercules, out of the Mediterranean and into hitherto unknown territory down the Atlantic coast of Africa. In his search to find new resources and trading opportunities he encountered such exotic and unfamiliar sights as restless natives, swift-footed pygmies, gorillas, and erupting volcanoes.

Could it be that Obsidius was not the first to be commissioned by the Vesuvian Magnus or his/their equivalent in the 5th century BCE? Did Obsidius follow Hanno's trail or his breadcrumbs?

Maybe there was or is some kind of transmission from one generation of sensitives to the next where memories of their predecessors are retrieved from the Ultimate or the portal network in order to continue the endless exploration to map all the power spots and to locate all the primal artifacts in the world?

+Hank Johnson might think it's his intuition, but maybe there is a continuity from Hanno to Obsidius, from Harlan to Hank? A kind of downloading of memories stored in the portals or the Ultimate. The kind found in Akira's research paper. The method Jahan is trying to use to hack Nigel's patterns.

Or if it is based on the simulacrum framework, perhaps a long line of simulacra recursions from the ancient times until today? This might explain the connection between Hank and Jahan. Their dormant memories connecting to each other and surfacing as dreams and visions?

+Edgar Allan Wright +flint dille +John Hanke 
In the 5th century BCE, the Carthaginian explorer Hanno sailed beyond the Pillars of Hercules, out of the Mediterranean and into hitherto unknown territory down the Atlantic coast of Africa. In his search...
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As we go back in time we find evidence of this struggle. What I treats me is that if these beings are struggling with us humans. They have not overwhelmed us, as far as we remember. Which strikes me as odd. Is their real need for us to struggle and fight with each other. Rather than them.
...... or some of the humans have been able to come up with ways to stop them through out our history. 
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Sarah Rosen (Silencieux)

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Before we can put our values into machines, we have to figure out how to make our values clear and consistent.


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I think I saw a poll somewhere where the question was "if your driverless car is in an accident and it can either save you or the family on the sidewalk, who should it save?" and the result was to save the family. The followup question was "would you want to use that car?" and the result was an overwhelming no. So humans are, as a whole, a bit split on this topic making it very difficult for whoever has to make the decision. 
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Yik Sheng Lee
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"Sensitives" Studies  - 
 
Neither Way

+Hank Johnson​​​​ is right about Jahan. She and the Anti-Magnus cannot be trusted. Death follows the tactics they use and the paths they choose. From Smith to Calvin. Not forgetting it was Jahan who ordered +Devra Bogdanovich​​​​'s execution at the dark XM mine and +A Detection Algorithm​​​​ was complicit.

Looks like what +Roland Jarvis​​​​ said about XM patterning is true. However, even if it's true, having ghosts of ourselves in the Ultimate without our knowledge which are hackable is something I am totally against. In this sense, Devra's concern was right although her methods, spurred on by the Anti-Magnus, were wrong. Perhaps Hank's way is the best at the moment. A careful usage of XM. Something which Nigel once shared.

One positive note from this is that with a pattern so closely mapped from the original self, there is a high chance for Nigel to recurse and live again. Like the simulacra of +Niantic Project​​​​. Maybe this was part of Calvin's objectives. I am sure Ilya at +Visur Technology​​​​ is very interested as well. No surprise Visur worked along this line in their XM research.

And since +flint dille​​​​ unveiled partially the secrets of +Edgar Allan Wright​​​​'s identity or being, it is highly probable that Edgar himself is a pattern restored from the Ultimate or the N'zeer substrate into an XM construct, able to traverse between here and there. It might be that he is an infomorph. A human patterned or mind-hacked into the Ultimate or the N'zeer substrate before being downloaded again into his current state. An infomorph living in an XM body. Maybe what happened to him also gave rise to the development of Omnivore and ADA. Could it be that the source of these AIs are not codes, but patterns of powerful sensitives harvested from the other dimensions? Something ADA implied and planned during Interitus?   

In summary, as I've posted (https://goo.gl/lUQvC9), massing massive volume of XM to hack +Klue S.​'s​​ mind​ in the Acolyte's cleansing ritual or Nigel's pattern with Akira's method is not the way forward as either way will probably lead to at best a highly volatile XM state or at worst, a global XM eruption ten or more times more destructive than Pompeii.

If only we listen to, again, two dead men's wishes, Nigel and Obsidius, and halt the activation the Aegis Nova. The world might be a better place.

+John Hanke​​​​ #investigateingress
If there was any doubt that Jahan and Smith were behind what happened to Nigel Moyer, this conversation should put those doubts to rest.
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We haven't heard the last of +Devra Bogdanovich​...
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JoJo Stratton
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"Sensitives" Studies  - 
 
+flint dille stopped by the Essex chat earlier today as he continues his journey in Europe (attaching images from the chat). He touched on a subject regarding +Edgar Allan Wright - something that was also mentioned and being discussed here - https://plus.google.com/u/0/110289508116377658380/posts/3aRMmzeXgX6

What/who is Dr. Wright?
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So much knowledge! 😃
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Hazel Vizion

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Lots of familiar names here.
 
Maps of Odysseus' Journey, University of Pennsylvania.
Course site for Classical Studies 200, Greek and Roman Mythology, at the University of Pennsylvania
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Yik Sheng Lee
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Was Garstang looking for Primal Artifacts?

Long before +Thomas Greanias' recorded the adventures of +Hank Johnson and Conrad Yeats in The Alignment: Ingress, Garstang was perhaps the first sensitive to rediscover the ancient power spots at the city of Meroë. Perhaps he was like a modern day Obsidius.

If true, did he discover any primal artifacts? If he did, where are the artifacts now? And who was he working for?

One thing is for sure, he did not find all the artifacts because Yeats uncovered one of the most precious of them all, the Amulet of Isis. The last we know of this primal artifact is that Serena took it away from Yeats (in a way I am glad she did because she is always the levelheaded one between the two lovebirds.).

How this primal artifact was used at the dark XM cauldron at Luizi Crater which nearly destroyed Sheba and her people remains a mystery.

+Edgar Allan Wright +flint dille +John Hanke 
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Laurentiu Giuglea (LaurRO)

XM-ology: Exotic and Chaotic Matter  - 
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The Site of the Ship Niantic, next to the Transamerica Pyramid in SF, still gives people a breadcrumb as well.  I think each agent can only receive each breadcrumb once, but they've never turned off the functionality of yielding the breadcrumb media.
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Yik Sheng Lee
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"Sensitives" Studies  - 
 
To Susanna

+Susanna Moyer​, your father might have been tricked by Jahan and the Anti-Magnus into using the Aegis Nova to protect +A Detection Algorithm​​ and to serve the N'zeer. If so, your father's trust in Jahan was misplaced and fatal. He might have sacrificed himself to prevent Jahan, ADA and +Oliver Lynton-Wolfe​​ from activating the Aegis Nova for their personal goals.

If your father's warning is true about Aegis Nova, then the targeted XM which it generates might have been used in the past to bring about the devastation at Thera, Pompeii and Tambora. And maybe even more. These events don't serve the interest of humanity.

Be careful cause you're their next target because you hold the key vital to their quests. You might need to run and hide. I think it's a good time to seek out +Hank Johnson​​ for advise and protection.

+Edgar Allan Wright+flint dille+John Hanke
 
INGRESS REPORT – Dangerous Secrets – June 16 2016

#IngressReport: Dark news about Susanna's father. His secrets at stake in #AegisNova. Amazing Ops from around the world.
#IngressReport: Dark news about Susanna’s father. His secrets at stake in #AegisNova. Amazing Ops from around the world.
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Yik Sheng Lee
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Another Ancient Power Spot of Aegis Nova?

The site attracted pilgrims from far and wide to consult its oracle although just how this functioned is not known in detail. We know that a High Priest interpreted the oracle from the privacy of a chamber only he was permitted to enter. Pilgrims had to undergo many weeks of initiation, fasting and cleansing rituals before they could be considered worthy of consulting the oracle.

Like +Roland Jarvis​ and the Acolyte, I suspect the High Priest was a powerful sensitive and the rituals some kind of XM dosing and even ingression. If this is a Nest, then it could even act like Calvin's ABADN to turn unsuspecting pilgrims into simulacra.

Could the Niantic's mysterious stop at Paita and Peru related to this site and its primal artifacts? Will we see its reactivation at the culmination of Aegis Nova anomalies as +A Detection Algorithm​ and +Oliver Lynton-Wolfe​ continue their relentless effort to activate the Sword, setting off a chain of possibly catastrophic events as the Acolyte, Jarvis and Jahan react?

+Edgar Allan Wright+flint dille+John Hanke​
Pachacamac, located on the coast of Peru and 32 km south of Lima, was an important sacred site, oracle, and place of burial, which was visited by pilgrims of many ancient Andean cultures, including the Incas...
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Yik Sheng Lee
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Networks of power spots emerges as the Aegis Nova is on the verge of activation?

We know that the Aegis Nova might be similar to the Darsana Point where networks of ancient power spots or Nests emerge to turn the entire Earth into a portal to send the Darsana Beacon to the N'zeer.

Maybe the Aegis Nova will turn all these ancient power spots which Obsidius identified in his journey around the world as commissioned by the Vesuvian Magnus into a global network to form the Aegis Shield against entities from other dimensions and even unleash pinpoint catastrophic events on earthly enemies?

+Edgar Allan Wright+flint dille+John Hanke​
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Sarah Rosen (Silencieux)

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Yik Sheng Lee
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XM-ology: Exotic and Chaotic Matter  - 
 
Jahan's Cost and Akira's Brilliance

Again, Jahan's way is at all cost. (https://goo.gl/TK0bvI). As long as she believes it is right, it has to be. This is the kind of thinking which leaves a trail of deaths in all that the Anti-Magnus do.

On Akira's paper, I think this is not new. She must have modelled her research based on Obsidius' and +Hank Johnson's breadcrumbs. That powerful sensitives like them can leave their memories in the Portals associated with them.

Maybe this is an extension of it because it involves reaching deep into the Ultimate without pinpointing a specific portal entangled with Nigel. Maybe that is why the cost of XM is so huge. It's a deep probe into the Ultimate.

Another possibility is the mysterious ship belonging to +Hulong Transglobal and used as Smith's experimental torture chamber is itself a powerful portal like +November Lima and Prime. Maybe I shouldn't even be making this hypothesis, but I presume Jahan already knows.

Another angle to look at Akira's research is quantum or XM entanglement. The ghost a sensitive leaves behind when exposed to a certain portal for a long period of time. This first recorded case was documented by +Thomas Greanias in the The Alignment: Ingress at the Cahokia Mount and Luizi Basin.

The last possible theoretical framework used by this brilliant Japanese XM scientist could be the N'zeer's simulacrum construct. How after a recursion or reconstruction of the XM being, certain memories are downloaded back to the simulacrum while those of the most recent cycle are lost. Nigel, together with +Oliver Lynton-Wolfe pioneered the method to recover these otherwise lost memories when they, (Or rather Nigel and Azmati. Oliver was just doing his thing to survive as usual.) tried their very best to save Hank's memories and to free him from being held ransom by +A Detection Algorithm and a mind-hacked +Klue S. who was then another version of the AI. The keep Hank weird effort was a massive operation, linking portals entangled to him to the target portal. I believe both Enlightened and Resistance agents assisted because they believed in Hank just as many still do especially during this crucial period in the #AegisNova  Anomalies.

I think the massive XM level required is due to a deep probe into the Ultimate where no specific portal is targeted. It's like the energy needed to send a spacecraft into deep space. Rocket fuel is not sufficient. A wormhole has to be opened. Space time needs to be bent.

Perhaps this is the best analogy there is for what is about to happen this weekend. If so, what will opening an XM wormhole involve. What's the cost? What will be the effect of bending interdimensional space with a powerful XM eruption on normal people? Will it be a hundred times more dangerous than what the Anti-Magnus agents experienced when they entered the 13Magnus Nest in Afghanistan?

What is the cost for humanity for Jahan to achieve her goals at all cost?

+Edgar Allan Wright +flint dille +John Hanke  #investigateingress  
 
This leaked transcript confirms the rumor that Jahan plans to reach into the Ultimate using the energy from the Aegis Nova Anomalies.

If the Resistance win and she succeeds, she will have gained access to Nigel Moyer's memory of the encryption code that hides his research.

With that research in hand, her goal of transforming the Aegis Nova shield into a weapon to use against Jarvis will be within reach.

#InvestigateIngress
This leaked transcript confirms the rumor that Jahan plans to reach into the Ultimate using the energy from the Aegis Nova Anomalies. If the Resistance win and she succeeds, she will have gained…
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If she succeeds, and defeats Jarvis, what then? What are the ramifications of that possible end game?


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Achim S. (Metamorphis)

Glyph Meanings & Research  - 
 
Did some of the minoan sensitives survived the thera eruption?

Dated to the mid-second millennium BCE, the eruption was one of the largest volcanic events on Earth in recorded history. It is speculated that the minoan civilization was destroyed by this vulcanic eruption.

As I investigated the minoan culture I stumbled over the bronze idalion tablet (5th century BC) which is related to the cypriot syllabary and has it´s origin within the minoan culture. The Cypriot or Cypriote syllabary is a syllabic script used in Iron Age Cyprus, from about the 11th to the 4th centuries BCE, when it was replaced by the Greek alphabet. So, one thousand years after the minoan eruption there are fragments of shaper glyphs...

Harmony Immortality Perspective Shapers Human Again Clear Signal Defend Nature
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There is an interesting National Geographic article:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/09/150908-archaeology-future-discoveries-technology-ancient-mysteries/?utm_content=buffer063cf&utm_medium=social&utm_source=plus.google.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Point 4: Deciphering the mystery language of the ancient Minoans

The Shaper language? I think so.
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Yik Sheng Lee
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Obsidius and the Northmen

There are two sources from the 1st century A.D that are quoted as referring to the Suiones. The first one is Pliny the Elder who said that the Romans had rounded the Cimbric peninsula (Jutland) where there was the Codanian Gulf (Kattegat?).

Based on this, it's no coincidence for Obsidius to run to the Suiones while escaping Syphax because either he learned about them from Pliny, the Vesuvian Magnus, or he was part of the Roman scouting party, (being an extraordinary sensitive scout), which rounded the Cimbric peninsula.

From there, he most likely traveled with them to North and South America for a second time since he mentioned in his breadcrumbs that he had travelled to these places to find primal artifacts before returning to Pliny where he witnessed the destruction of Pompeii.

What he found in this second journey to the Americas, (or perhaps what he left behind or hid) is what I believe new Obsidius breadcrumbs, which +flint dille​​ talked about, will reveal. We need to pay attention to the portals at British Museum and Westminster Abbey. And very likely those in Salisbury as well.

+Edgar Allan Wright​​ +John Hanke​​ #investigateingress 
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Yik Sheng Lee
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Why mind-hacking must stop

Whether it is +A Detection Algorithm's electronic mind-hacking of 855, her glyph and XM powered ingression of +Klue S., and her massive mind-units capture during Interitus, or the Acolyte's XM cleansing ritual on Klue, or the Shapers' patterning in the Ultimate or Calvin's +Niantic Project murder cum simulacra experiment, mind-hacking has got to stop.

+Edgar Allan Wright +flint dille +John Hanke  
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I absolutely disagree that this technology should be halted.  Look at the original use -- the paralyzed, locked-in patient who was able to learn to manipulate a computer cursor with his mind.  Aside from Kennedy's work, other labs around the world have been making progress with this type of work.

I think we are years, perhaps decades, away from wanting to offer this kind of direct brain-computer interface to the general public simply as a more-efficient method of operating our technological tools.  But we already have the potential to massively improve the lives of badly damaged people, and suggesting we should not at least continue with that line of research is cruel and immoral.

If such research eventually leads to a safe and reliable direct brain-comptuer interface, so be it.  We'll learn to manage that technology safely, just as we've learned to manage other dangerous technologies.  Luddism is never the solution.  Prohibition never works.  If it can be done, somebody will eventually do it, so we'd better figure out how to do it safely.
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Yik Sheng Lee
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Aegis Nova at all cost?

Based on what we know from the last few days, I think it's clear that Smith, using +Hulong Transglobal​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​ resources and under the orders of Jahan and the Anti-Magnus, perhaps in cahoots with +A Detection Algorithm​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​ and +Oliver Lynton-Wolfe​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​, have lured Nigel into researching the Aegis Nova and uncovered its secrets. But Nigel realised his mistake and their entrapment due to his XM heightened senses and encrypted his findings before they could get their hands on it.

Whether it's torture or simply he's no longer of use and worthwhile to sustain onboard the ship since the encryption key has been given to +Susanna Moyer​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​, Nigel died or was murdered without letting Jahan and Smith to get hold of the secrets of Aegis Nova. It's likely the key is encoded in this letter.

As I've said earlier (https://goo.gl/e2AobR), Susanna needs to hide and get help from +Hank Johnson​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​ since he also suffered and knows Jahan's trickery and tactics. I think it's the only way to overcome such formidable foes who also entrapped Hank for the Shōnin Stone. It's the only way to do the repair his father asked of her.

+Edgar Allan Wright+flint dille+John Hanke
 
On the most recent Ingress Report, Susanna Moyer read a section of a letter to her from her father, Nigel Moyer.

I have obtained the entire letter. It may help uncover just who was behind his difficult final days and death.

Help me transcribe it and find the clues we seek.

#InvestigateIngress
On the most recent Ingress Report, Susanna Moyer read a section of a letter to her from her father, Nigel Moyer. I have obtained the entire letter. It may help uncover just who was behind his diffi…
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Yik Sheng Lee
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Perhaps more than just the grave of long dead kings? Another Nest emerges as Aegis Nova intensifies?
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Sarah Rosen (Silencieux)

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You can't hold it back or wish it away. You can't run from it or fight it. AI is the future. Will there be a place for you in it?
 
Human work in the Robotic future
Nice contribution by Foreign Affairs to the discussion about the coming age of AI, Robotics and the challenges it brings. 
Automation will increasingly reshape the labor market in radical ways, and the changes will call for policies that reap the gains of new technologies while still protecting the vulnerable. Policymakers should follow two principles simultaneously: encourage work and allow flexibility and experimentation.
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If enough of us come together to demand it, we can have the robotic future without it being unjust.

There's a fundamental incompatibility between the capitalist market-state as currently maintained, and the long-term viability of civil society.  Think about the case of the reductio ad absurdum: Androids that delight in service, that can perform basically all service jobs, and molecular replicators that can assemble any physical goods.

To the extent that such a suite of capital goods is owned by a limited class of people, those people can offer essentially ALL goods and services at a low price point; in fact, if they don't have a monopoly or a cartel, their competition with each other will make it impossible to charge any price above the mere cost of energy to power their capital goods.  On the other hand, if they DO have a cartel or monopoly position, then because they can drive out any other form of goods and services, they will have full control of the market.

The problem is, nobody aside from the capital owning class will have income, because in general, human labor will be irrelevant.  So no matter the situation, the capital owners will have no customers for the massive amount of supply they can offer.

Our capitalist society cannot survive without realizing that (a) actual ownership of capital must be widely spread, even if that means something as simple as forming a Sovereign Wealth Fund that will gradually buy up a larger share of corporate capital and administer it on behalf of the people (though of course this would also require reforms to safeguard the idea that the government needs to actually represent all the people, not just the ones that can buy a campaign); and (b) in order for Aggregate Demand to keep up with Aggregate Supply and avoid a long-term persistent depression, we have to keep money circulating in the economy, which pretty much means we MUST institute a Guaranteed Basic Income.  Every citizen needs to be entitled to enough of a claim on our growing Aggregate Supply to get by with basic housing, food, the opportunity to educate their kids, etc.

As a side benefit of this, if we had a solid minimum income, we probably could abolish the minimum wage, while beefing up the Earned Income Tax Credit.  Work would become optional, but anyone would be able to work at whatever wage price-point they liked, if they wanted to supplement their income beyond the minimum; and with a negative income tax to make the overall tax scale extremely progressive, lower-wage work would continue to be attractive for many people, both in terms of being a significant improvement over the bare minimum, and simply because earning a wage and feeling productive has psychological value.  But nobody would have to work multiple min-wage drudge jobs just to survive, so employers would have to ensure that the jobs they were offering, no matter how low the actual cash wage, were not horrendously unpleasant, unsafe, etc.
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Yik Sheng Lee
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A Fishy Vision, A Powerful Eruption and Aegis Nova

What are we to make of the strange fishy and shape-shifting vision or reality Obsidius and Cybella saw near Thera?

About the fishy shape-shifting vision, I'm thinking the location was a Mount Meru to access the Shapers Substrate, like Persepolis was the gateway to the N'zeer Substrate which Jahan activated, only to be derailed by +A Detection Algorithm​ at the last moment.

The strange creatures could be their minds trying to make sense of either the Shapers or the patterns existing within the Shapers Substrate which +Roland Jarvis​ spoke about.

If this theory is accurate, then the location of the breadcrumb, Thera, where the largest recorded eruption took place more than 3500 years ago might be evidence pointing to the activation of the Aegis Nova by the Anti-Magnus to destroy the gateway of the Shapers Substrate.

If true, then the series of catastrophic eruptions from Thera to Pompeii and the more recent Tambora (leading to the Volcanic Winter which gave birth to the Diodati Epiphany) might be the result of previous activations of the Aegis Nova.

If true, then the destruction at Thera and the gateway to the Shapers Substrate was similar Alexander's destruction of Persepolis. Maybe the myth of Atlantis and it's link to Santorini might be a retelling of this destruction at Thera. The advanced civilisation of Atlantis being a civilisation of high level sensitives who guarded the gateway to the Shapers Substrate.

All these remain mere theories at the moment.

+Edgar Allan Wright+flint dille+John Hanke#investigateingress 
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