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Jean Borde

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Looking for those who want to share their views in a cultured way, see input here: http://www.bordeglobal.com/foruminv/index.php?showforum=120 For instance you don't agree on something please state your view and facts without demeaning anyone.
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Stacy .Thompson

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My step dad went off again today while we we're talking about Jesus he was saying house the LDS Mormons are the selected people to get to God give me a break if you rake the M out of Mormon you get moron I don't have to give up my coffee and tea for the sake of some religion who don't have their facts straight because they will never know that those coffee and tea plants were also created by God himself
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Coffee and tea are wonderful
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SCOTUS rules gay marriage bans across the nation unconstitutional.

Let the collective lamenting from the church commence! #lovewins  
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So happy about this!
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UberTheRandom Randomizer

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I wrote this quick little tidbit up earlier this morning for someone who had a question about the history of madness and violence in Mormonism. 

Disclaimer:  I was a Mormon for 38 years and only became an atheist about two years ago. I haven't read through all of the articles I'm sending, but hopefully they will give you an idea of what Mormon "culture" is capable of. Again, most Mormons are very good, loving, kind people, but there is a VERY dark history of violence and madness from Jo Smith's followers. 

There are multiple groups of Mormons: there are the LDS, which is the biggest "faction" and is the most mainstream. Then there is the RLDS church which formed when a faction back in the 1800s wanted Joseph Smiths son to lead the church instead of Brigham Young. They were fairly mainstream as well, but pretty much died out by 2001. Then there are all the little other factions, most of which are even more scary and cultish than the main church. These include the FLDS and dozens of other little off shoots. Most of those are Fundamentalist and promote polygamy, child marriage, female member suppression and suppression of education. They often also promote shunning and violence. Please also note that most Mormons, even those growing up in Utah, will not be aware of much of this history. The church has done a masterful job of hiding these facts in plain sight and the only reason they are being known now is due to the internet. 

Wiki article about Mormon violence:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_violence

Biggest, most well-known act of violence was the Mountain Meadows Massacre:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre

a differing viewpoint of the MMM, most assuredly written by a TBM (True Believing Mormon) that downplays the massacre and tries to whitewash Brigham Youngs involvement:
- http://mountainmeadowsmassacre.com/

Blood atonement:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_atonement
- http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mountainmeadows/atonement.html

Modern violence:
- Lafferty brothers:  http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1985-01-20/news/8501040596_1_ronald-lafferty-dan-lafferty-revelation
- http://www.seattlepi.com/ae/books/article/Two-powerful-experiences-changed-the-focus-of-1120223.php
- http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/03/books/thou-shalt-kill.html

- Helzer brothers (Children of Thunder): http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2309952/Justin-Helzer-case-Notorious-killer-murdered-people-bizarre-plot-speed-Christs-return-Earth-hangs-death-row.html
- http://aboutserialkillers.blogspot.com/2012/03/glen-and-justin-helzer-children-of.html

- Cody Judy: http://utahvalley360.com/2014/08/08/11-unforgettable-moments-recent-lds-church-history/ 
- http://allyouhavetodoisask.blogspot.com/2013/05/the-bomb-that-wasnt.html
- http://www.deseretnews.com/article/274471/SUSPECT-IN-FIRESIDE-BOMB-THREAT-SAYS-HE-WAS-FULFILLING-PROPHECIES.html?pg=all

- Brian David Mitchell:   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_David_Mitchell

Infamous Mormons (note: may or may not have committed crimes based on their religion):
- http://www.famousmormons.net/infamous.html

White Horse apocalyptic prophecy:
- http://en.fairmormon.org/Joseph_Smith/Prophecies/White_Horse_prophecy

Note that Mormonism in ALL forms is a very apolocalyptic cult and many members relish the idea of the Second Coming and of "sinners getting whats coming to them". I would NEVER trust a fundie Mormon to have their fingers on the trigger to armageddon.  

Exerpt from the "God Makers" video; Mormons will claim this content is all false, but it ALL has been taught as truth by the church at one point or another in its history:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3BqLZ8UoZk

This is all I have time for at the moment, but if you wish more I can find that later. 

Additional topics not covered yet:
- blaming rape victims for their assaults and are told that they must forgive their rapists
- telling girls that it were "better to have died rather than give up their virtue" to a rapist
- telling girls that once they have been raped they are of no more value than "chewed gum" - see Elizabeth Smart
- molestations and group rapes that are punished by "talking to their Bishop", "skipping the sacrament" and by spankings; crimes are often NOT reported to the police
- early accounts of castration for those that went against Brigham Young
- elders in the church exiling young men so they wouldn't compete with them for the marriage women
- Black people not getting the priesthood until the 70's, which effectively would have kept them from the Celestial Kingdom (Mormon heaven)
- support of Prop 8, discriminating against LGBT
- silencing of those who speak out against the church (Will Bagley,John Dehlin, Kate Kelly, Ordain Women group, September 6, Alan Rock Waterman)
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And yet the church continues to DENY this, even in the face of historical record. 
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Stacy .Thompson

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Here is another video I did I'm sorry about my speach it's not all that great but I will put the resources under it tomorrow because I'm doing all this on my cell phone.
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DING DONG the witch old bastard is (finally) DEAD!

I really hate to take pleasure in someones death, but I've been waiting for that old bastard to die for years! Good fucking riddance! The world is a better place without him!
Boyd K. Packer, president of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, died at home Friday, July 3, 2015 from causes incident to age. He was 90 years old.
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Chad Watson

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Look at this crap my Mormon relatives are sharing now. So many comments from them that democracy is over. 
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That LDSMAG article is dripping with such obvious bias and pro-LDS propaganda. I think it's funny that they affirm their twisted concept of morality. I also wonder why they can't accept gay people when they day God made you a certain way on purpose, and ones sexuality is purely physiological. 
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Brutus Epiglottis

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"Most of those sealed to Joseph Smith were between 20 and 40 years of age...The youngest was Helen Mar Kimball, daughter of Joseph’s close friends Heber C...Kimball, who was sealed to Joseph several months before her 15th birthday" (14 years old) ... "Joseph Smith’s sealings to women already married may have been an early version of linking one family to another..." But not really.

Another possibility and simpler explanation could be that Joseph Smith was a gifted womanizer; you know, a Don Juan/Casanova lover-boy, a seductive skirt chasing stud (duck). Personally, I admire a smooth sweet talking prophet, a slick ladies man who is able to get the drawers. Back in my single days, Brother Joseph and I could have hung together, cruising to score with foxes. Dang - if only I had a time machine. Then again, the prophet Brigham Young didn't do so bad with the babes either.

Just kidding. But, seriously, I am glad to see that the LDS church is finally coming clean and admitting to some of the "not faith promoting" history of Joseph Smith. A truth that has been a long time coming and is way overdue.
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Mormons forfeit their intellect in order to maintain the facade of faith.

"Joseph Smith’s sealings to women already married may have been an early version of linking one family to another.."

Really? How about them being illegal and technically adultery? Mormons, otherwise very intelligent, are the dumbest people in the fucking world when it comes to their religion. It's just plain frustrating.
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Sister Sarah

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I am a former mormon, now a believer. I write anonymously, but in a way that still is real. I do this to write freely without worrying about what my Mormon family thinks about my views. My Mormon family know I am not in agreement with them, but thankfully, we manage to, well, mostly get along from a long distance. My friend, who is also former mormon, has worse stories. I don't use the word Christian unless I know it is understood to be a believer in the Jesus of the Trinity. Hello everyone!
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All Christian sect deny the cross? Where did you get your information? What is your definition of Christian?
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