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IMPORTANT MESSAGE: To Join this Public Community as a member, do not just click the Ask-to-Join button - but ALSO Private Message (private G+ post, not a hangout or email) +John R. Ellis with a request for Approval, and if you don't show your Community posts on your Post Tab, please include a link to at least one community you Own or Moderate.   Thanks. 

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FAQs about G+ and G+ Communities:
3 Billion current accounts
2.5 Million Current communities
~7400 new Communities created daily

 Resulting in these:

Current Community O/M Issues

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The New G+ Interface is a Pilot (Test) Project and has not yet installed all the features needed for Community Management, and various other features for various other platforms.  Use Classic G+ for Community (and Page) management until they get around to putting the features into the placeholders.

See this post by John Skeats for further details about tools:
https://plus.google.com/+JohnSkeats/posts/8R6LkoZZgF4

See this blog and 17 minute video about using the new interface:
http://www.martinshervington.com/the-future-of-google-plus/

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Reminder - be sure to check the information posted in the community About Section for answers to Frequently Asked Questions here.

TIP - To find and remove the Bang Girls from your membership list, go to Membership Search and type in:  Quote, Bang, Apostrophe - i.e.: [ "!' ].  Should bring them up, 20 at a time, for removal.  ;-)

Some additional current issues with Communities, even in Classic View:

Some posts from ~January 16 are stuck in the Spam filter and can't be managed at all - error messages generated no matter what is done with them. [ Edit - appears to be fixed on Feb 4, 2016 ].

"New Posts" number is missing or wildly wrong.  Mods no longer can see that there are posts to the community if they are in Spam filter, unless they enter the community and check.  Number indicates a new post, but it can be hours later before it is actually displayed in the community.

Spammers may be sneaking around the Ask to Join button in the new interface.  This has not been fully verified.

O/M can no longer see all posts or comments by members who block them.

YouTube video posts going to spam filter, even posted by Owner.

Posts, especially YouTube videos, are seen only by the OP even when not in the Spam Filter.  No one but the OP can comment on some You Tube posts after they have been restored from Spam filter, when they are visible to the community.

Collection posts going to spam filter.

Trolls and hackers still hijacking communities.  TRUST NO ONE!

Posts get dozens or hundreds of Plusses, then the plusses disappear.

Notifications not working well, and disappear when you try to read them.  This link might help you recover the lost ones:  https://plus.google.com/notifications/all


Feel free to use the comment section of this post to bring up new questions or new issues, especially if you don't think it needs a full post in the community.


Updated February 2, 2016.

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Lolol 
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Dave E

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I know it may be early days, but has anyone heard anything about the survey that many of us did?
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Not a thing. I'm curious too. Probably won't hear anything but hopefully see some interesting features in future updates.
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Anime & Manga

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A thank you to +John R. Ellis for allowing me to join.
My first question is, has anyone else noticed that when opening the members tab, members are no longer listed alphabetically?
I have found myself in this situation which makes it difficult to remove spammers whose accounts seem to commonly start with "!".
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+John R. Ellis Thanks. I had deleted a batch last week, but when I checked the next day there was another load of them. I now realise that it was just that they were old ones that had "jumped" to the top of the list, when the page was refreshed.
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Rapidgame7

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Hello. I'd like to ask everyone what do you think about the following:

In Google+ there are several communities related to games, where the members are usually fans of a game. Naturally, there are people that dislike these games and often have a specific tag in their names.
Also, there is also this thing about "Bang Girls" that are basically entering the community to spam whatever.

So I thought about two things that might have been discussed about before: a "mass member deletion/ban" and an username blacklist, both using Regex.
Would that be useful? You can basically bulk ban users whose profile name only consists of a single "!" or those that have a specific tag in their name, or just block the entry of people whose name consists of something in special, using the Regex syntax

Would a Regex "bulk kick/ban" and a "username blacklist" function be useful?



For your information, Regex means Regular Expressions, the which allows more flexibility when searching certain patterns on strings.
Just like the Windows search function that let's you use "*" and "?", but with more options.
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I think we've all been asking for an easier way to act on multiple members - if you combine that with the existing ability to search, which returns 20 accounts, it would allow you to ban 20 troublemakers at a time, if their names were so predictable.

I think though that Google are working only on things which most people need - even if 5% of g+ users is a lot of people, it might not be enough for G to get to work on something they need (or want) - so g+ is becoming less valuable to people who use it in interesting ways. Still great for filling a stream with photos of cats though.
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beruk H

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can you  find out who deleted another moderator?
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Hi +beruk H. Adding to what +John R. Ellis said, I encourage you to use Send Feedback from the Google+ main menu to request an activity log for moderator actions if you believe that would be useful. 
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Rajesh Narayanan

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Since Communities now seem to be on the radar of G+, sharing one important point,  which has been discussed earlier in this community.
(Have sent many feedback on this)

Anyone new to G+ is exposed/recommended to large communities which don't have owner/mod. Even if they do have, they are unmoderated to a large extent.
 So why don't they restrict membership based on unmoderated posts in the spam filter? Change them automatically to Asktojoin whenever spam posts cross 500/1000?
This will prevent spam and will provide a better experience to the new user.
Expose the new user to well moderated communities.
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Sounds like a good idea to me. Communities with poor content shouldn't be recommended. 
I imagine Google was trying to solve the problem that new users don't have anything in their feed. They need an onboarding assistance process.
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Jacin Mariam George

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I want to mention a person on my post. But the problem is that person's name is in another language which I don't know. So how can I mention that person? Plzz help. 
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Cool!
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John R. Ellis
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Membership List in Random Order

I see that as of a few hours ago, the membership list of all communities is now random, instead of alphabetic.  The Invited list has always been random, and still is.  The O/M list, and the Banned Member list is now random too.  Is this the G+ "solution" to the Bang Girls problem?  


#BangGirls   #EPGs  
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Andrew Hatchett's profile photoJim Munro's profile photoJennifer Ludovice's profile photoshawnkmaloney Craftgrid's profile photo
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Same results for me in uptodate Chrome.  :)
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Sepp Stuibhart

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I have a simple question: Well, I'm certain it's simple to many here. While I've been a moderator of several communities for a few years, I'm a new Owner. How do I make a moderator of my community an owner (that is, co-owner)? There's no option in the menu that I can see.
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+John Skeats Sounds like a good precaution.
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Noernberg Stamps

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I have effectively managed to tackle the issue of the onslaught of non-legitimate new member applications for my community by use of a pinned hyperlink to a google form at the top (and I can review the very few that take the time to go through it), but I still have 16,000+ users in my 'Member Requests' area. I want to mass-reject them. I click the "Ignore all 16,423" button, but it doesn't seem to do jack and they are all still there. Is there any way to clean house and wipe them all en masse? 

And yes... I know I don't need to do it, but It's the OCD in me. That's the way stamp collectors are! :-)
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So much for that, I guess! Still about 7300 to clean up. With the weekend here, I should be able to knock a bunch out. Not so many Bang Girls. They don't seem to take the time on mine (yet), although I do get couple here and there.
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About this community

This is a grassroots community of Google+ Community moderators that come together to share the experience and expertise in effort to help each other build stronger Google Plus Communities (GPCs). To Join this Public Community as a member, do not just click the Ask-to-Join button - but also Private Message (private post, not a hangout) the Owner John R. Ellis with a request for Approval, and if you don't show your Community posts on your Post Tab, please include a link to at least one community you Own or Moderate. NO SPAM. NO LINK LITTER. NO SHARING YOUR NEW COMMUNITY HERE. Our most frequently asked questions: Q: How do I get more members to my GPC? A: Fill it with remarkable content so that they cannot help but join. Q: How do I get more members engaging with my GPC? A: Accept that most will lurk, but see the first answer. Q: Can I change my private GPC to public? Or vice versa. A: No, you can't. Q: How do I become a Community Moderator? A: Owner promotes you from membership, or demotes you from Owner. Q: Community was left Ownerless - how do we get one? A: You can't. Read this: https://plus.google.com/+JohnSkeats/posts/DhMwWGRnN6g Q: I'm new and want to create my own GPC. How? A: Read this: http://andrij.co/blog/community-owner-guide/ Q: How do I create/manage a Community on my mobile device? A: Read this: https://plus.google.com/102059301521610707137/posts/S1WcT3YF5Mb Q: Posts are missing - where did they go? A: Read this: https://plus.google.com/+JohnREllis/posts/MWk3ZhmRy8w Q: Why are my posts in the Spam Filter? A: Read this: https://plus.google.com/102059301521610707137/posts/6gPz8hhUpPh Q: Ever since Collections rolled out, when I try to post to my Communities, the pull down menu no longer lists it. A: Make one Public post from your account. Sign out of G+. Sign back in. The pull down menu will be magically working again to show ALL your communities. Q: Someone is screwing up the community - is there a log of Activity to see who is doing this? A: No. Note: The Banter category will be periodically purged. The community was founded by Peter G McDermott, but is now lorded over by a mix of gentle and heavy-handed moderators, none of whom actually work for Google or G+.

Dan Eastwood

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This is a lightly redacted copy of a message I just left for one of the regulars in our Spam Trap. I've made several efforts to get this guy to participate within the rules, but his only interest seems to be promoting his own content. Regardless of the topic, this type of behavior is little different from Spam. 
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+Reginald Redacted  It appears your only interest in posting to the community is self promotion. If you are interested in actually participating in the community, then you should take a hard look at our rules on Relevance and Proselytizing. Talk to people, don't annoy them with drive-by sermons. I'm going to remove you from the community now. If you decide you want to participate, you can ask to join again.

To be clear, I am removing you because your behavior is akin to Spam, and we remove other members for dong the same thing. As a writer and speaker, you should have some appreciation of this. May I recommend:  http://www.albion.com/netiquette/corerules.html
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I sometimes privately call this Entitlement trolling: the person thinks they are entitled to post whatever they like, and the rules do not apply to them. They often cry freedom of speech or Rules Nazi when their posts are moderated. They are often newcomers to the Internet, and have no idea what cross-posting means or why it is rude (or they just don't care).

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Ben Miller

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Experiencing a strange issue. A moderator of a community received an email notification of a post by the other community moderator. When he goes into the community he doesn't see the post, but he does see the post on the other moderator's wall indicating it has been posted to the community. Any ideas of what might be happening?
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+Ben Miller Did you ever find the post?
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Liyma Sal

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How can I approve all or multiple requests on my google + community at once. I have thousands of regeuest and don't want to approve them one by one, it's taking me hours. Please help. 
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Thank you
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John S Wren

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I'm on Facebook, Blogger.com, Linked In, Twitter, Have YouTube Station, etc etc. Simplify, simplify. How? I click "discussion" wondering, is it possible to have a real discussion online? 21,000+ members here? Please, don't all speak at once.
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Very possible, but other things may interfere. In particular, the larger the community the more likely that someone will disagree with you. :-)
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Dan Eastwood

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If I can add an addendum to the recent survey:

We think we just had a Spammer come in from the Invited list. It was an apparently new account, and did not appear in the Ask To Join notification emails. This is potentially a big hole in using ATJ to keep out Spammers, because once they have one account in, they can invite as many as they like.

Our current Invited list is full of invites that are clearly Spam. There are thousands, and no practical way to get rid of them. Tools please! 

Showing "Invited By xxxxxx" would give a good clue to the root Spammer accounts.

??? I am assuming that once invited, the joining profile no longer needs to be approved? I'm not sure how that actually works.

+Danielle Buckley +John Skeats +John R. Ellis 
+cecilia FXX 
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+Dan Eastwood my lips are sealed 
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Rajesh Narayanan

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Did anyone notice posts upto 24 hours are only shown?
Scrolling down further shows posts from 3 or days later. The posts in between are always missing.
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I seeing this issue in official g+ help community as well.
missing many days of posts in between.
https://plus.google.com/communities/115758385206378551362
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John Skeats
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Please Take This Survey about Community Moderation from Google

UPDATE: Survey is now closed.

The attached link is to a survey from the Google+ UX team. They're looking specifically at what enhancements are needed to improve community moderation. They're looking at some really interesting ideas which go far beyond what Google+ ever had in the past. 
Thank you for your interest in Google+ user research! In this survey we will ask you about some of your habits and preferences using Google+. The survey is expected to take approximately 15 minutes to complete. Participation in this study is voluntary. You may refuse to participate, ...
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I can confirm that we looked at the data already on Friday. Thanks everyone for answering!

shawnkmaloney Craftgrid

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On the subject of "bang girls", "porn bots", "whatthefrickever", the following is a perfect example of what happens when you tell a child what NOT to do. :)

....    https://plus.google.com/communities/103299867207875326585/members    ....
 and then I challenge anyone to type who the owner of the community is muchless find one moderator. scroll baby scroll. hahahahaha.
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Well, I have no EPGS problem right now.
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Doug Essinger-Hileman

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Because of the information I learned here, I set my community to AtJ in order to deal with the BangGirls. That worked -- except for one occasion. About a week after we changed to AtJ, two new BangGirl accounts showed up in our membership list. They had not asked to join, nor were they approved (there are only three owners/mods, so I am fairly confident of this). 

I realize that responses might be more speculation than fact, but . . .

Is this a case of spammers getting around the AtJ button on the new interface? Or might this be a case of transactions on one server finally catching up with other servers? Or . . . has my community entered the Twilight Zone?
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+John Skeats Good to know. I might update my picture/avatar but I don't see any reason to change my handle. I have worked hard to learn the Internet social media marketing system and see no reason to start from scratch.
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Dan Eastwood

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For a closed community, can someone who has asked to join and been rejected immediately ask to join again? I guess what I really want to know, it there anything to prevent them from asking again, if they are not banned?

I did try to search this question, but didn't find this question.
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+Margaret Siemers I typically clear my Blocked list every few months. Spammers don't generally come back.
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