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Luke Klinker
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Talon for Twitter - A status update and notes about the future

A lot has been going on the last few days, so I just wanted to share with you guys the most important parts, and explain what has happened and what I have done for any of you still unaware.


Tokens
As many of you have seen, the app did in fact run out of user tokens. Tokens are twitter's way of limiting the number of users on a 3rd party app, they give each app 100,000 to distribute to its users. Those sure went fast in talon, which is something that I am pretty proud of, but of course a bit sad about as well.


Creating a Token Workaround
Some apps have let you input your own api keys into them, I will not be doing this with talon as it violates twitters terms of service.


How to download the version you already purchased
The original version has been unpublished from the play store. You can still see it though as long as you have already purchased it. Go to your purchased apps section of the store or find it from this link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.klinker.android.twitter&hl=en


Logging In
With version 3.4.0, I have created a bit of a login workaround to trick the Twitter website into authenticating you if you already have a token. 

When logging in, you will more than likely be met with the "This application cannot authenticate any more users at this time, please try again later" message. There is a "sign in" button in the top right corner of the screen though. Click it and sign in. Twitter means for this to take you to their main web view of your timeline, but I force it to return to the authorize page for Talon instead.


What to expect for the future
Now for the future of the app. I did release a material redesign, only for Lollipop, onto the play store. You can find it here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...witter_l&hl=en

This app is for lollipop only, and I do not think it will be coming to lower version. I don't want to limit myself by api constraints with this one, and since I have a token limit anyways, the longer i can prolong that, the better it will be for me, as the developer, and you all, as the user.

This new version also allows me to have major incentive to continue developing the old version. They will have very similar feature sets, with design as the key difference. I really don't want to hear anyone saying this app is dead already because that is simply not the truth and I would have never tell anyone such a lie.


Open Source
Since the token limit was reached, I have open sourced the classic version of talon. You can find it on my github here: https://github.com/klinker24/Talon-for-Twitter

This is something that I said I was going to do from the beginning and something that I am proud of. Open source is a major step for any project to take, let alone a project as big as talon. Some of the code it pretty good, some... not so much haha remember that I made this as a 19 year old kid with only one high school java class and month into a college java class... So don't judge the code to hard, it works well and, for now, that is what is important. I will probably go through and comment more of it in the future as well.

Check out the readme for what you have to do to get it to work, basically it is just getting your own api keys. I ask that you do not redistribute the builds you make for your own gain though. If you make one and would like to share it, great, that is exactly what it should be for. Do not charge for that build though. I have spent a hard year crafting this app and someone stealing it for a profit would not make me very happy.

Please note that although it is open source, I plan to continue updating the Play Store version as well.


Wrap Up
So, anyways, that is the future, contribute to it if you would like, otherwise, continue to enjoy what I have created. I might be sad about the token limit, but I am overjoyed about the response I have gotten to it and the support from my users.

Enjoy the app, I will just say that it still has a bright future in front of it.


Phew, these last few days have been a lot haha hopefully this clears things up a bit and I can get a second to relax and point people here now 😵
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Seems that worked as i got both a Fav and a RT that showed up.
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Julian Fernando

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Full screen mode maybe? 
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Immersive? No sorry, this isn't planned.
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Jamie Rico

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I'm not sure if this is even possible, but will Talon Lollipop ever be able to support Twitter's new quote feature in the timeline instead of having to click on the tweet?

Thanks for all your great work!
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Just an FYI... The ACCENT color palette is labeled THEME. 😃
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Thanks
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Luke Klinker
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Navigation bar covers the floating action button and snackbar

Unfortunately, there is not a direct method in Android to tell if the user is using a navigation bar on their device or if they have hardware buttons. Most of the time I am able to find it automatically, but on some devices this will never work.

Since some of Talon's layout depend pretty heavily on whether or not you have a navigation bar, Talon allows you to specify it manually from UI Settings.

If the automatic method is working for you, there is no reason to use this setting though.
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Logging into a second account

Talon supports up to two accounts. It won't be more than that because of Twitter's token limit.

If you want to add your second account, simply click the down arrow on the right side of the main drawer, then the blank circle to start the login.
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Luke Klinker
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Why can I only view 25 favorites on a status?

Unfortunately, Twitter does not allow third party apps direct access to who favorites a status. Bummer, I know :(

The solution I created is simple and works in almost all cases (unless that user has a protected account), the drawback being that it can only find around 25 favoriters.
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Luke Klinker
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Why do the app bar, snackbar, and floating action button hide the way they do?

In the plus version of Talon, by default, these UI extras hide as you are scrolling up the timeline. This is different than many apps do it, but that is because Talon is designed to be used in a bottom up approach.

It is assumed that you are seeing all new tweets as you scroll up from your current position and that you have already gone over the tweets as you scroll down. So, when viewing the new tweets, Talon will give you the full screen, but when checking out old tweets, you will see these UI extras/navigation helpers on the screen as well.

If you would rather have the app use the top-down style (similar to Google+), there is an option for this under advanced settings.
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Luke Klinker
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Can you add an option to close the picture viewer with a single click like in the classic version?

No, the single click will hide and show the navigation and status bars in the plus version of talon. You do not have to press the back button to exit though, you can simply swipe up or down and it will close the picture.
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A AlFaris

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Suggestion tap action option like the old talon. Thanks 
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I know but it would be nice to tap and take you directly to conversation. Thanks 
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Martin J Clarke

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just downloaded the app and absolutely loving it.

- Would love to be able to swipe between different main timelines from different twitter accounts
- I don't quite understand the system for the top banner (menu icon  Home  search icon) and bottom "[x] new tweets TO TOP" and write new tweet icon popping up - they seem to pop up an awful love and it's a little iritating
- could tweets that I've written or commented on or even RTd - could these show as a different colour in my timeline
- could RT tweets show differently in timeline - perhaps option of different shade, and including smal version of Twitter profile pic of person who RTd
- the transparent bars are awesome - they should be enabled by default IMO
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many thanks for the reply
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Andrew Frense

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Option: The ability to move the app to a SD card? This feature would be pretty useful.
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Why would this be a useful feature for this app? It's such a small file size it wouldn't make much of an impact of it was moved to an SD card. Maybe moving the cache to the SD makes some sense but not the program.
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Akini James

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Is it possible to see a twitter style reply inline rather than having to open the tweet? It's more elegant that way imo
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Yes. But not right now.
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About this community

This community is for discussing and beta testing Talon for Twitter. To join in on the beta testing fun, all you need to do is join this community, then click on the link below (which you may need to do from your computer) and opt into the beta. Then you can download any beta updates that I put up (just remember that there will not be betas available all the time, I do need to take breaks every once in a while). Beta link (Classic): http://goo.gl/UcLaSI Play Store Link (Classic): http://goo.gl/N8XcnZ Beta link (Plus): http://goo.gl/zOfDCg Play Store Link (Plus): http://goo.gl/NFvrYT Some community rules: 1) Everyone will be respectful and contribute towards bettering the app 2) Post in the correct section or I will remove the post 3) Stay on topic as best as possible 4) Search a little before requesting a feature that has been discussed or a bug that has been reported Hope you all enjoy what I’ve created here, I’m always open to suggestions as well (but that in no way means I will actually act on them unless I feel they will create a better experience for the majority of people). Enjoy! #keepsliding #talonfortwitter
 
Hey! I just want to know if is there an option to Retweet, Favorited, or reply a tweet without open it thx! 
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No sorry
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Text overlap in latest beta, Nexus 6, stock 5.1
No settings have been changed
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Maybe a total fluke, but worth mentioning!
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Luke Klinker
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Can I open the tweet viewer with a single click with the plus version?

Lots of people have asked lately if there is a way to disable the expansion and go right to the tweet viewer when single tapping a tweet from your timeline.

While the plus version doesn't have a specific setting for this (and will never get a separate setting for this), if you use the Picture Below Tweet option under UI Settings, you will obtain this functionality.
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Martin J Clarke

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One suggestion which would be awesome for me...
- you know how when you long-press a link in a tweet, you get a little drop-down menu - it would be wonderful if (in addition to the existing 4 options) there was a "Read Later" option which, when clicked, saved the link into Pocket for example. (At moment, I'm clicking Share Link -> then finding Share with Add to Pocket (often involves scrolling through list as use other apps to share stuff also) -> Just Once. One click would be amazing.)

also, following on from below - re system bars - they're certainly more active than I'd expect them to be. e.g. when scrolling  (can happen either with thumb or index finger) - they'll fairly regularly pop up in the gap between my finger leaving the screen to move up to scroll more!
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Long domain names are not recognised as links, I think. Look at this tweet for example. 
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Yes this has been an issue from the beginning that I just don't know what to do about unfortunately
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Not sure if it's something on my end but twice today I had the columns mislabeled. They were all shifted over by one. Ex. Home column was displaying mentions. 
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Latest update has this bug where the tweet expansion causes significant overlap. It only happens sometimes, when I close and open the app it is back to normal for a while then starts again.

There is also another bug that I've found but can't show it through a screenshot so I'll describe it. Basically when I click on a tweet to expand it (single press not long press) it loads the conversation from the tweet I last replied to. Unless I close and open the app again it keeps happening. It basically gets its conversations all mixed up. Its been happening all day. 
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I'm finding it happens within some tweets that are short too. One example is a one liner tweet, but the text overlaps with the description of the app the tweeter used
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