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Policy surrounding the generation and cost of the UK’s #energy  supply has become a major concern for the government: http://bit.ly/1zptmts
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Assaad Razzouk

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Global #CleanEnergy Investments Up 8% At $66.2 Billion In 2nd Quarter http://buff.ly/1zmWr8E #climate
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Connections With Environmental Concerns

It strikes me that the sentiment expressed by +Diz Missem in the attached conversation reflects the same attitude that people often take towards abusing the land and that this is (at least partially) to blame for why we're presently facing so many huge man-made problems; i.e. they tell themselves that "if people did not [use the environment] then those [resources] would have no reason to exist," and they reason from there that those resources exist to satisfy their immediate needs without regard to the future or to consequences.

What do you think? Is there a crossover to be had here? Does addressing one side of these misconceptions (e.g. the misuse of sentient beings) also address the other side (e.g. the misuse of the environment)?
 

+Diz Missem: "If people did not eat animals then those animals would have no reason to exist."

Hmm... FWIW, that seems like such a strange notion to me. Do I understand you correctly, +Diz Missem, that animals designated as being for eating only have a value when we eat them?

If so, then to my way of thinking this opens a whole slew of questions. e.g. Did they not have a reason to exist until humans started eating them? If we stopped eating them, would they then be meaningless beings? If a certain species is killed and eaten in one country or culture but it's taboo to do so in another (e.g. as is the case with dogs, cows, cats, pigs, etc.), then where does the being's reason to exist come from in either context?

For myself, I've interacted with and studied animals so much that I've come to have strong certainties about their self-hood, and much like human-animals draw their reason for existing from that well, it's clear to me that non-human-animals are no different in this regard.

At least, that's how I see it -- what do you think?

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This post is one in a series in which excerpts of discussions on veganism from other threads are reposted (or paraphrased) for the sake of expanding the conversation. As always, your thoughts and questions are welcome. See the full collection via the #spommveganchats hash (or perhaps with a more robust search, such as goo.gl/JoxZC ).

(for anyone requiring/desiring more context, the original conversation can be found at goo.gl/63476p )

#vegan #animalrights #spommveganchatsnoreasontoexist
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The number one environmental problem in the world could be easily, cheaply and completely solved just by everyone agreeing to switch to a vegan diet. We'd also solve most other environmental problems, and we'd be able to feed more people, slash health care costs and have everyone live longer and healthier. So many huge problems all have the same simple solution. http://veganstreet.com/dailymeme-7-7-14.html
#climatechange   #vegan  
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The Southern Gas Association (SGA) presented the Chairman’s Award for Environmental Excellence to Columbia Pipeline Group (CPG) at the organisation’s Environmental, Safety & Health and Training Conference in Tampa. CPG was selected due to the comprehensive work displayed with its Habitat Conservation Plan (HCP).
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In the UK, many are questioning the future of the country's #energymarket :  http://bbc.in/1pJBqmM
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Elisa Wood

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What would you say if you had five minutes alone with Obama on energy? EnergyEfficiencyMarkets.com asked Jules Kortenhorst, Rocky Mountain Institute's CEO.
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Julian Close

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I love it when I get to write bullish trades on these screw the Earth companies. How better to point out what they are doing to make money?
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Milk Does An Environment BAD!

There are a slew of environment-related reasons to avoid drinking cow's milk (ref: goo.gl/n4lGg5, goo.gl/jN2E3N, etc.), from huge carbon emissions, to "super-bug" creation, to feedlot pollution killing off wildlife... and the list goes on and on. Beyond all of that, there's the ethical angle to consider; we have no physiological need to consume milk (especially since calcium is readily available in more absorbable forms from other food sources), so the damage and death and suffering that accompanies milk production appears to be fairly indefensible (as I discuss with +Dairy Error in this thread).

What do you think about all this?
 

+Dairy Error: "milk and cheese doesn't hurt a cow."

Sadly, you're very, very mistaken on this point. Dairy production has several inescapable consequences that make it impossible to be cruelty free in any context.

There are many issues to choose from here, but perhaps the most troubling is the creation of "veal". You see +Dairy Error, cows have to be force-bred annually to produce milk (google "rape rack" for more info on this), which translates in the US alone to around 9,500,000 babies per year that have to be dealt with. If she has a daughter, she follows her mother on to the stanchion; if a son, he's restrained in a little pen for a few days (i.e. "Bob Veal") or for up to 8 months before being forcibly killed and served up. Regardless of gender, the mother does not get to raise her child, who is removed from her by force and against both their will.

All of this takes place on largest factory farms and on the smallest most bucolic family farms, and we haven't yet touched on the other horrific abuses that take place. From this perspective, I'm sure it's clear why all milk products represent cruelty and death. Further, from a feminist perspective, I don't know how such conditions could be considered anything but horrifying. =o/

Does that make sense in your view?

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This post is one in a series in which excerpts of discussions on veganism from other threads are reposted (or paraphrased) for the sake of expanding the conversation. As always, your thoughts and questions are welcome. See the full collection via the #spommveganchats hash (or perhaps with a more robust search, such as goo.gl/JoxZC or goo.gl/JoxZC ).

(for anyone requiring/desiring more context, the original conversation can be found at goo.gl/EiTreL )

#vegan #dairy #dairyfree #animalrights 
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These steps will consist of training on establishing the #energy #management #system and processes that will bring down your energy costs, improve energy performance, reduce energy consumption and thus make the system more efficient. - http://www.irqs.co.in/blog/how-you-can-benefit-from-an-energy-management-system/
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 PVCompare interviewed Francesco Blotto, communication manager at @4Usolution, an Italian company specialized in providing consulting and engineering services for  high energy efficiency building and producing  the storage system #Lucciola.
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More competition is needed, but how do you think this could be encouraged? http://bit.ly/1lNVAUs #UKenergy  
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The demand for more sustainable homes with more green features is on the rise - http://bit.ly/1odm98b
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Sandy Dechert

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Important overall; critical for mid-term elections.
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UNITED STATES ARE GETTING GREENER? NEW ENVIRONMENTAL PROPOSALS .. #obamaadministration  
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Back in 1997, the human race became aware of yet another damaging impact of their actions on the planet, with the discovery of the Great Pacific Garbage Patch – a vast area made up primarily of floating plastic on the surface of the Pacific Ocean. More oceanic garbage patches have since been discovered and it has become an issue that has attracted a great amount of scientific attention. Happily though, in 2012, a 17 year-old Dutchman, named Boyan Slat, stepped in and presented his idea on how to reduce this problem. He dubbed his idea ‘The Ocean Clean-up’… but that’s all it was – an idea. This month, however, he has presented his long-awaited feasibility report – the conclusion of which is one of positivity regarding the viability of his plan.
Back in 1997, the human race became aware of yet another damaging impact of their actions on the planet, with the discovery of the Great Pacific Garbage Patch – a vast area made up primarily of floating plastic on the surface of the Pacific Ocean. More oceanic garbage patches have since been discovered and it has become an issue that has attracted a great amount of scientific attention.
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Ashok Ramprasad

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A new study finds that wind turbines have an energy payback of 6 months, which is comparable to the best solar photovoltaic systems. In other words, in their first six months of operation, large wind turbines produce the same total amount of energy...
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The Fukushima Renewable Energy Institute (FREA) Japan
-  Necessity is the mother of invention. Japan shut down most of their nuclear reactors as a result of fears from Fukushima.
-  Now they need alternatives for energy...
TISTR’s delegation led by Mr. Yongvut visited New Energy and Industrial Technology Development Organization (NEDO), Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA), Japan Science and Technology Agency (JST), and Takada Foundation, to have a discussion and reaffirm on doing potential S&T collaboration with these 4 institutes, especially, in the area of renewable energy, biodiesel, biomass, and/or DME.
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