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Feminist Before 6:00!

Soo... I'm a part time feminist, see? It's the whole FB6 movement. I mean, I let all those broads have jobs and I totally respect them and shit before 6:00, but I'm just a guy, right? You can't expect me not to do a little playin' with the babes when the mood strikes! Don't hate the player, hate the game -- am I right, ladies?

(When someone claims to be VB6 [Vegan Before 6:00], this is what it sounds like to an actual vegan.)
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Not sure if I get that right. -
Half of right attitude is full nonsense. - We call these particularists bootlickers - before and after 6:00.
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Alexa Krueger

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Does Bittman come off as having issues with tofu? It's not a mock meat, it's not trying to be mock meat. It's soy bean curd, plain and simple. His intro makes preparing and eating tofu sound like going to the dentist.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure he didn't invent chocolate mousse made w tofu. What an ego. 
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In all seriousness, this is exactly what happened to the word "vegetarian". There was a time when being a vegetarian meant that you consumed no animal's bodies, menses, or secretions, and partook of no animal labors on your behalf. But then people started calling themselves vegetarians even while they included milk and eggs on on their plates... and sometimes fish... and used animals for labor... etc.

Partially in response to this phenomenon, or so the story goes, Donald Watson coined the term "vegan" when he started the Vegan Society. He stated that it was "the beginning and end of 'vegetarian'" - "because veganism starts with vegetarianism and carries it through to its logical conclusion."

IMHO, we're now faced with the issue of defending the meaning of the word "vegan" from people like Bittman, 'else we'll be coming up with yet another new word down the road. =o/
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Sean P. O. MacCath-Moran
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"If We All Go Vegan, We'd Starve To Death!"

When people demand of me to explain how we can possibly grow enough plants to feed everyone when they all go vegan, I like to point out that, depending on whose numbers you want to trust, each pound of edible animal flesh requires between four to thirteen pounds of plants to produce. In essence, we're filtering protein/energy through animal's bodies before consuming them, and are doing so at a substantial loss. Putting aside for a moment the health, environmental, and social issues inherent to agribusiness, when we do stop raising animals in order to eat their bodies and instead use that agricultural land to produce human-edible goods, our issue will be massive surpluses, not shortages. =o)
 
How much food can you get from an acre of land? The answers are kind of interesting. http://veganstreet.com/dailymeme-7-11-14.html
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+Liz E Many years ago, I used to be one of those jerks that made that stupid claim about teeth. Back in college I teased this vegan girl saying that same "canine teeth" statement. She didn't like it.

One day she responded with "the largest mammalian canine teeth belong to the hippos...and they eat grass."

I was speechless. 
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Ader Ann

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This is greek salad's hip cousin from out of town. It is fresh, yummy, and good for you.
I love this salad! It is so fresh and delicious, and the nutritional stats are awesome. It is high in fiber and protein and has good amounts of vitamins and minerals. I love having a dish like this on hand for when hunger str...
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When I go out to eat I often find myself asking if certain things are vegan.  A lot of times the person taking my order will say something like, "Yes it's vegan.  It just has a little bit of egg (or cheese)."  

Thankfully I've never had to deal with someone this oblivious.
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Obviously a joke.
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Sticky business, that...
 
Most vegans will understand this picture, but for those who don't, vegan food digests so well that there is a whole section of the drugstore we never see unless we're picking something up for a sick meat-eating friend. For those who say our bodies are designed to eat meat, I would ask why you all need so many products to help you digest and eliminate it? http://veganstreet.com/dailymeme-7-10-14.html #digestion   #laxative   #heartburn   #vegan  
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Oh the days of the college cafeteria +Jenny Sue Hane !  Fond memories (more so of college life) bu yes there was the good ole cafeteria.  I also remember our pregame 'meal'.  Boy how things are passed down from one to the next.  That is why I still and will always say it's not necessarily genetics causing disease it's the lifestyle of the family

Have a great day!
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terran hardy

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hello everyone!

My name is terran and I have been a vegan for about a year.  I will look forward to sharing with others about this lifestyle and its benefits.
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Welcome!
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Hippy Krissy

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Dat hat tho :/
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melissa z

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Sean P. O. MacCath-Moran
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+Dain Bramág: "Making your children retarded [by raising them vegan] when they don't have to be hurts my society; hurts me."

Actually, unlike your imagined hurts, it turns out that teaching your children such a hate-filled thing as that they "have to" kill and eat sentient beings actually does hurt me -- and for me this isn't an abstract hurt. Animal agribusiness aggressively destroys the environment (e.g. greenhouse emissions, water pollution, etc.) and directly endangers my health (e.g. via "super-bug" creation from antibiotic use, etc.). Less directly, it increases the cost I have to pay in to the health system in order to help those who have had the poor judgment to eat animals for too long recover their health.

So... Other than this unsupported fantasy you have about nutrient rich plant based lifestyles magically causing retardation, is there any other way you think this hurts you?


+Dain Bramág: "I don't have to hate something to kill it. Especially when I am hungry. And yes, I have killed and prepared and eaten my food from start to finish. I know the whole process, minus husbandry. I haven't done any food breeding."

Respectfully, knowing that you're killing a sentient individual even though you know that you absolutely don't need to take that life can only be described as an act of hate. Being hungry doesn't ethically justify needlessly taking the lives of others in any "normal" situation, and to disdain another individual's right to their own life so much that you would casually end that life for no better reason than the pleasure it brings your taste-buds to do so... well... AFAIK and IMHO, that can only reasonably be described as an act of hate. YMMV.


+Dain Bramág: "Drop a child into the woods at an age where survival is likely, ~9 years old, and they will not have a vegan diet. They will eat eggs, or menses as you call it, and they will eat bugs, and they will eat carion and they will, eventually learn to kill live animals for food. Again, killing does not equal hate."

This imagined scenario has no basis in reality, is based on your own fantasy (and not in the "real world"), and certainly doesn't provide ethical justification for you, as an adult, to needlessly kill sentient beings.


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VeganTown.co.uk

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Hi guys, we've been contacted by a TV production company and they've asked if we could put the word out for a programme they're making about food for UK TV channel BBC2.

Here's the info: Studio Lambert, the television producers behind such TV shows as Undercover Boss, Gogglebox & The Great Interior Design Challenge are producing a new documentary series about food for BBC2. They want to speak to any Vegans from across the country (UK) who might be interested in taking part. If Selected, filming will take place from the end of August. To find out more information please send a brief description of yourself to getintouch@studiolambert.com or call 0203 040 6812

Website: http://www.studiolambert.com/index.html
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+Sean P. O. MacCath-Moran I agree. It did cross my mind that TV producers can twist and present things in a way that one would find unacceptable. I suspect that this is a rather harmless food show for BBC2 but absolutely do your homework before getting involved if any of you go for this.
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Beer and water are the only two things I drink these days.  (Not in that order - water and beer just doesn't have the same ring to it) For many years I drank the 44 ounce soda from a fountain.  That would be my first stop o...
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stefania polli

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Ingredienti: 100 gr. di farro, 6 pomodorini ciliegini, 1 peperone giallo,1 lime, olio evo, basilico, sale. Lessare il farro, scolarlo, unire le verdure tagliate e condire con il succo di lime, olio evo , sale e basilico.
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Mary P

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A mini-"recipe" for you guys. Little dose of chocolate to finish off the week?

http://thehumbleplate.blogspot.ca/2014/07/chocolate-covered-strawberry-smoothie.html
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Michelle Thiele

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Four easy grilled veggie dishes for your next barbecue!
Four creative ways to spice up your veggies this summer!
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Andrew Olson

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The Meat(less) Pasta Sauce!

A simple recipe for turning homemade veggie burgers into a deliciously authentic 'meat(less)' sauce: http://goo.gl/sBT3zr
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I automatically add my vegan ground meat stuff to sauce all the time.
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Brittany Ds

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t’s time to celebrate! That’s right, it’s the end of the 30 day raw challenge. So what happened? Was it a success? What were the downfalls? Brittany tells all in the finale episode of the 30 Day Raw Challenge!

Video Here---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A11GAEw_WAtI
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Bridgett Hymiller

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He really should go vegan !
 
Why I’ve given up eating beef, to boost my health & the environment. Would you do the same? virg.in/ygb 
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If he's that concerned about the environment, he shouldn't be pushing for more airport runways in the UK.
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I thought this was a powerful video. The imagery goes well with Regina Spektor's song.
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This was a very awesome video. Thanks for sharing. It inspired me to get started on a similar video.
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