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Adan Gleeson

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I find it absolutely great that the other day I was told that "freewill was a mistake in our creation" from a Christian
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freedom is absolute. the only thing we have in this world is our absolute freedom to choose our next step, as we have no control over anything else, including the consequences of our actions. we are preconditioned in many ways by nature and nurture but, we can look inside, analyse, learn to transcend the ego and become our authentic selves. making our freedom more authentic as well.
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Navid Khiabani

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With near unanimity among experts in warfare, President Barack Hussein Obama’s “strategy” to defeat ISIS is a sham that is designed to lose. While the “Muslim in Chief’s” motivation to fail can be attributed in part to his Islamic heritage, Obama’s professed method of combat is strangely reminiscent of President George W. Bush’s initial strategy after Sept. 11, 2001. In the weeks following the horrific terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, “W,” Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and their advisers decided to take the politically expedient route not to commit ground troops. Instead, they conveniently decided to use and arm Afghan tribesmen to defeat the Taliban, which had taken over Afghanistan, allowing Osama bin Laden to work his evil from this venue. As we all can remember, by relying on Muslims to take out other Muslims, and not committing American ground troops at the time, Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld sowed the seeds for bin Laden to escape his hideout in the mountains of Tora Bora and flee safely to Pakistan.

The harsh reality is that Muslims cannot be counted on to forcefully fight other Muslims, and thus Obama’s similar plan to have a coalition of primarily Arabs do the dirty work in killing ISIS is doomed for failure. But of course, that is what our so-called president wants. How dare we Christians and Jews think of and advocate wiping out his fellow Muslims bent on destroying our way of life? Obama simply has no stomach for killing his creed en masse, under any circumstances, even when the circumstances present an existential threat to the United States, the fraudulent Muslim usurper’s “adopted” home.

Let us finally face it and stop pussyfooting around. We are in a religious war! In the end, it is either them or us. If we intend to have any chance of survival, it is also time that we face reality. Either we kill these radical Muslim ISIS cockroaches – all of them – before they spread like cancer and infest the globe, or in time they will kill all of us. It is survival time, boys and girls. No time for the weak at heart. God understood this when he sent a plague to kill the Egyptians, allowing Moses to flee with his enslaved people for the Promised Land. God acted similarly when he destroyed the Roman Empire and the Jewish high priests after they conspired to crucify his Son. How can we humans, with the divine grace and guidance of the Father and his Son, act differently under these dire circumstances?

Indeed, in taking on the Muslim caliphate, now being spearheaded by ISIS, we need to take a lesson from President Harry Truman in ending World War II. Showing real grit and leadership, Truman and his advisers correctly concluded that even if thousands of Japanese civilians had to be sacrificed in dropping atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, this seemingly unthinkable strategy would save countless lives in the end. And, not just the lives of U.S. servicemen who were then fighting in the Pacific theater, but by bringing the war to a close quickly also countless Japanese lives as well.

Had “W” and Dick Cheney similarly authorized the use of tactical nuclear weapons on the Taliban in the days following Sept. 11, not only would Osama bin Laden had been killed many years earlier, but the United States could have wiped out this terrorist group completely and we would not be faced today with its resurgence. And, as importantly, we would have taught the Muslim enemy and our adversaries around the world – including but not limited to the Nazi-like Russian President Vladimir Putin and Islamic Iranian leaders – a strong lesson. Namely, attack the United States and its people, and we will wipe you out, period. Instead, Bush and Cheney decided to respond in kind, and we see the results today. Notwithstanding the Muslim president’s traitorous acts furthering the planned Islamic caliphate over the last six years, Bush and company sowed the seeds that Obama then exploited to further the insidious plans of his Middle Eastern Muslim brothers to again enslave Jews and now Christians to a world where Shariah law rules the school under the devilish hand of their god, Allah.

So the time has come to return to the strategy of President Truman and face reality. If we really want to destroy ISIS and set an example for other radical Muslims and the Putins of the world to fear us and leave us in peace, we must use the tools that can do this. Put simply, we should employ tactical nuclear weapons to wipe out the enemy. We cannot worry that Islamic civilians will be killed in the process. In the end this strategy, as was true of the Japanese in World War II, saves not just American but Muslim lives as well.

But of course, Hussein Obama will never authorize this strong action. In the last six years since he took over as our so-called commander in chief, he has ordered our brave servicemen not to fire on Muslims unless they were essentially fired upon first. The result: More men and women in our armed forces have died and been maimed, percentage wise, during the Afghanistan war than in all other American wars.

And, all of this points out that We the People not only have a Muslim enemy in the Middle East to defeat, but also a Muslim sympathizer in the White House that is bent on destroying our Judeo-Christian heritage and way of life.

Yes, these are the times that try men’s souls. No more “sunshine patriots”! The time to fight back with overwhelming force is now before it is too late. Let the Islamic terrorists be destroyed totally with our strongest weapons – giving them an early burial in hell replete with 72 virgins for each one.

As for the president, let us now also have the guts and wisdom to use all legal and constitutional means to remove this profoundly unworthy and dangerous man from office before all is lost.
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+Navid Khiabani Yea! A religious war where atheists can die for their country but can't be part of the group that puts their lives at risk. 
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Kace Porter

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What do you think about the responsible minority having to pay a high price for the ignorance and mistakes of the irresponsible majority?
A lot has changed since 1927 when Sigmund Freud published these words. Still, it couldn’t be more adequate to today’s reality. We are better equipped, but less happy. Undoubtedly, we have created some amazing things, but we can’t deny the mess humanity made on the way.
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I think most of here see this the same way. Freud is close but, no cigar as usual. 
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One part of Catholic church apparently trying to not pay compesnsation to abused children by using the new 'you can break the law because you're religious' law.
The Catholic Archdiocese of Milwaukee, which owes victims of pedophile priests (including one, Think Progress notes, who was accused of assaulting approximately 200 deaf children) $17 million has decided to put that money into a fund reserved for cemeteries and claims that to pay the victims what they're owed is a violation of the church's religious freedom. After all, if there's one thing we've learned about Jesus is that he would have likely al...
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Remind me again why ANYONE thinks the Catholic church is morally superior to, well, anything.
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Richard Taylor

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Fundis got themselves a token...........
Interesting section on charity donations. Once yoive removed all the donations to religion, charity giving is more or less equal to non believers.
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Dave Erickson

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For those religious people that think atheism is taking away their power over society, I ask you what dissent - of any kind - justifies this sort of action: "I stabbed him because he humiliated my prophet," said Jikrullah, a...
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Marc Razia

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Heard this great quote today by Barry Hampe...

"The origin of the universe matters to only two kinds of people: creationists, who hope to prove something, and cosmologists, who hope to learn something."
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George Takei wins. 
The days are over where some may be denied a seat at the table simply because of who they are — or in this case, whom they love.
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Ihab A

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Islamic Failure Series - Episode 51 - Jesus didn't die on the cross, and the Bible is corrupt. Quranic Dilemma

Muslims brag about the idea that their Quran is universal no matter where you get it from, and the Bible is corrupt, not only because of the translation, but because the original versions were lost, and some original texts were lost, modified, deleted, or mistranslated. Muslims believe that the original Bible never said that Jesus was crucified, never claimed he is the son of God

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Islamic Failure Series - Episode 51 - Jesus didn't die on the cross, and the Bible is corrupt. Quranic Dilemma Christians would love to use this post to… - Ihab A - Google+
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Richard Taylor

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This is the same man who only wanted alter boys.........Cardinal Raymond Burke: Gays, Remarried Catholics Are Just As Sinful As Murderers -
(RNS) When Pope Francis last year effectively demoted U.S. Cardinal Raymond Burke by moving him out of a senior post in the Vatican to a largely ceremonial role as head of a Rome-based Catholic charity, it was viewed as a way to sideline one of the p...
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+Bryan Patrick Young there were a few articles on this matter from different publications. I picked this one because it had a handy Google+ button
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L Derby

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Religion, where genetic deformities are celebrated 
A baby girl born with a protrusion resembling an elephant’s ‘trunk’ is being hailed as the reincarnation of a god in northern India.
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Too easy - there are other more obvious answers - 

In addition - consanguineous marriages in India are very different depending on religion and social status. 
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Great series by Matt Dillahunty demolishing common religious apologetics
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Rina Salesia

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Is it possible to avoid or eliminate truism?
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It is a truism that it is a truism that it is a truism.
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You know how Christians claim that we hate them here I take that on
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Well, I hate Christians for being narcissistic, arrogant, liars.

And I hate christianity for teaching people how to lie, for being based on myths, and being so unrealistic that an entire political party, the GOP is now christianized and has as its turn the US back to Jesus and live in the Dark Ages. 

Yes,, I hate Christans...there is so much evil in Christianity, and Islam that it just amazes me that here we are in the 21st century, and we still have people wanting to go backwards in time, and to force the rest of us to worship an imaginary god, and create a Christian police state. 

Fuck that shit.
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Kenneth Baumann

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I’m looking for some clarification regarding Jesus’ teaching when viewed from the perspective of a political leader.

I want to use the example of George W Bush (“Dubya”).  Dubya engaged in revenge warfare (Afghanistan), putative preventive warfare (Iraq), and torture (waterboarding, Gitmo).  Dubya also loudly proclaimed his Christianity, and his admiration of Jesus.

My questions are addressed to those who have seriously studied Jesus’ teachings.

Is there anything in Jesus’ teachings which would condone, under any circumstance at all, warfare by human beings against human beings, or torture of human beings by other human beings?

My understanding is ‘No’ on both counts.

Weren’t Jesus’ teachings on how human beings should treat other human beings always on the side of compassion and forgiveness?

My understanding is ‘Yes’.

It seems axiomatic to me that someone can’t claim to be a Christian, while consciously and deliberately ignoring Jesus’ teachings when they’re politically inconvenient.
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+Judy Weismonger FYI, I'm an atheist. The thrust behind my questions has to do with a Christian's point of view and rationalizations.
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News report says that...
38 US states allow parents to let their children die from easily treatable ailments if their religion either objects to treatment or they believe that prayer will cure them.
For a faith that professes to value "life" many right-wing Christians seems strangely blasé about children's rights and lives.
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Pray: To ask that the laws of the universe be suspended on behalf of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy.

Science: Logic, reason and everything that works!
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It's not difficult to see through what religious freedom means to some.
"Gimme that old time religion" to quote from Elmer Gantry or rather "Make me" according to more and more Republican lawmakers. Republican Sen. Sylvia Allen of Arizona was caught making what she dow...
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Wreck Tall Openings

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bwahahahaaaaaa!!!!!!!!! eat shit religifuckers!!!!!!!!
*** WARNING *** Yuck! ***

"Accused Bank Robber Says Virgin Mary Told Him To Eat His Feces. And He Did. In Court."

From the attached article...

Holy sh*t.

A California man accused of robbing a bank apparently decided he was done taking crap from prosecutors, so decided to take matters into his own hands and eat some instead.

Andrew Gilbertson pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity after allegedly robbing a San Luis Obispo bank in 2013, KSBY reported.

Police said during the robbery, 40-year-old Gilbertson disguised himself by wearing a hat and a pink child's backpack before slipping a note to bank tellers demanding cash, according to Cal Coast News. He allegedly said it was the Virgin Mary who suggested the disguise.

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Holy sh*t. A California man accused of robbing a bank apparently decided he was done taking crap from prosecutors, so decided to take matters into his own hands and eat some instead. Andrew Gilbertson pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity af...
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+Newsha Makooi At times. However, I've worked with the mentally ill. The guy in this story is simply mentally ill.
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Daniel Arias

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Religion and fraudsters, a marriage made in heaven?
Like L. Ron Hubbard knew, the veneer of celebrity casts such a bright light that the details are obscured. Perhaps that’s why we call them "stars." The closer you get, the harder to observe the shadows being cast.
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I haven't read the link yet...I might give it a click later though.

However, some times I wish I had no morals...there are so many ways to get money out of people in religion. Even if they don't flat out give it to you, there are books, music, movies, little statues made in China by some one who isn't even Christian...all sorts of ways to scam money out of people because of the religion.

You don't even have to believe in it...just collect the money.
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