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Ed Thompson
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Doing an experiment. Starting with myself and focusing on direct ancestors, I am collecting at least one birth, marriage, death and burial record for each ancestor, plus any census they appear in, and processing those records in Evidentia.

Then I am doing a proof just for Birth, Parent(s), Marriage, Death, and Gravesite for each.

Then I am exporting to RM7, using a clean database populated only with data exported from Evidentia.

My plan is to do this for 5 generations, then reward myself with a 5 Gen Fan chart, knowing every linkage is substantiated. I can then send Fan charts as gifts.

I am less concerned with Marriage, Death, and Gravesite, since I am really trying to prove lineage at this time.

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You dod get a good foundation.  While I am focused on direct line, I do document every person of interest in the sources I collect so that I can come back and build on it later. It also insures I am thorough on the direct line.
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Kent R Frazier

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I'm having problems exporting from Evidentia to GEDCOM and then importing to RootsMagic 7.

I'm testing using only a single source on myself. After exporting the file in evidentia to a GEDCOM and then importing it into RootsMagic 7 the only informaion that imports is my name and the source information. None of the statement or proof information is exported. I've looked at the .ged file in a text editor to confirm that none of this information is in the file.
I am using the "recommended" settings during this test.
What am I doing wrong?
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Ed Thompson
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Kent R Frazier

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How do you source a Marriage Certificate with the original is in your personal possession?
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Thanks. This would be a certificate issued by the county. 
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Ed Thompson
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People are reporting that the Evidentia books and quickstarts have started to arrive. I am very interested in your reviews. Do they make sense? Are they helpful? Are they well organized? Are they worth the investment? The more specific, the more helpful it will be to me.

Feel free to comment here or reach me privately at ed@evidentiasoftware.com

(O my, what have I done!)
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Lynn, I sent you an email.
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Bob Adams

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The Evidentia Companion and the Evidentia Quickstart Guide have arrived in beautiful Bella Vista, Arkansas.
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Mine arrived today in Illinois!
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Mark Cunningham

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Why would I need more than one Evidentia database? I could understand creating DB's if I were working on other people's family, but if it's just my (and my wife's) family info would it not be easier to have everything in one?
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I basically have one database for my tree (both paternal and maternal lines).  I did start a 2nd database for a brickwall ancestor that I'm working on with a cousin.  Until we can prove he is ours, I don't want him in my main database.  If I can prove he's mine, I'll then move all the info into my main database.
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Ed Thompson
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+Stephanie Daniels

We were unable to comment on yur post for some reason, so I am duplicating it here:
And now I'm having trouble citing things without exact templates. Do I need to buy a copy of EE as well?

I think I was assuming that this would be more like a citation manager where I would fill in fields like author, city, date, and then it would format it in a style.

For example, this is a citation directly from FamilySearch, but I'm not sure how to enter it into Evidentia:

"Michigan Marriages, 1868-1925," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11111-156422-21?cc=1452395 : accessed 17 January 2016), 004207806 > image 124 of 602; citing Department of Vital Records, Lansing.
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This would be my method. Use the additional information available in FamilySearch

FamilySearch provides the following on the webpage cited above,
Information Tab includes
1) film note: "Marriage Records: 1888 - Montcolm to Wexford counties; 1889-Alcoa to Baraga counties. Image 124 of 602.

2) "Marriage records" [hppt://familysearch.org/search/catalog/1142657] link provides you with a additional information including Author and Repository.

On the bottom of the scanned page, it states " I hereby certify that the above Return of Marriages is a current Transcript from the Records of this Office."

If you search to the beginning of the book (in this case, the books were scanned from back to front) you will find it is Volume 3 1888 Wayne [County] Page 418 to 555. Your citation is on page 509. [giving a record of the place of marriage]

In Evidentia, Under Template, I suggest you use: "State-Level Records: Vital-Records Register: Jurisdiction, Agency & Series as lead element" (Jurisdiction(State); Agency/Creator; Series; Repository Location; Book & Page; Entry [Row#]; ID of Person; and Date




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And now I'm having trouble citing things without exact templates. Do I need to buy a copy of EE as well?

I think I was assuming that this would be more like a citation manager where I would fill in fields like author, city, date, and then it would format it in a style.

For example, this is a citation directly from FamilySearch, but I'm not sure how to enter it into Evidentia:

"Michigan Marriages, 1868-1925," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11111-156422-21?cc=1452395 : accessed 17 January 2016), 004207806 > image 124 of 602; citing Department of Vital Records, Lansing.
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Mark Cunningham

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Question on "best practice." My grandmother wrote down things, memoirs I guess you'd call them, which I compiled into a single "book" totaling 55 pages with info on lots of people. Lots of good stuff in it. When citing this source does it matter if I have one citation with lots of claims for lots of subjects, or should I have a citation for each page, each with fewer claims and subjects, does it matter? I would guess there are 50 named people birth to death and all kinds of stuff in between.

I realize there may be some subjectivity to this but I don't want to enter lots of info one way only to realize I should have done it differently.

Thoughts?
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I appreciate your reply. I see what you mean. Thanks!
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Jane Wi

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I have a question about the Chicago Manual of Style (I think it is) which seems to be taken as a 'standard' for Evidentia.  This format of recording sources and citations is not generally used in Australia - for example on Trove (part of the National Library of Australia) we are able to access a huge number of scanned newspapers and part of that service you can get access to automatically generated citations BUT the Chicago Manual of Style is NOT one that is offered.  When I went through Uni it was never used (that was some time ago so I do not know if that has changed at that academic level here).  What was used at Uni (and I am totally familiar with) is the Harvard style. So my question is should the Chicago Manual of Style be used or can I use what I am familiar with, ie Harvard style?
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I am in a similar position to Jane Wi. Having just received Evidentia software and the Companion book in the mail, I have set about trying to learn how to use it with Australian (and some English) sources and citations. There doesn't seem to be a standard citation method and no real Evidence Explained equivalent. I too am interested in what other Australians are doing, particularly professionals. It does matter to me that my sources and citations are documented consistently but also common to other researchers. Is there a forum for Australian genealogists using Evidentia??
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Discuss Evidentia: Genealogy software that gives a voice to your sources by turning what you know into sentence statements you can use in your analysis. Input what source data you have in this intuitive format and see what you really know about your research. Evidentia is a tool for the modern genealogist whose goal is to draw conclusions based on the sources gathered in their family history research.

Kent R Frazier

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I have three (3) versions of my birth certificate:

1- a digital image of what appears to be a photocopy of the original hand written one.
2- a digital negative image of the one above.
3- a paper copy of the more "modern" certificate" currently issued.

The images contain more information than the more modern one, like information about the number of live births and stillborns prior the the birth recorded.

Discounting the negative image, would I list these as two separate sources or just one source? Can I attach multiple images to a single source?

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+Kent R Frazier --- I would use all three with Evidentia. The main reason is that it makes you READ the documents in detail. You can, when writing your Conclusion eliminate #1 or #2, but I would use all three. But, that's just me
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I am in the process of starting to use evidentia. I have a question. When you create a proof report, where does evidentia store the proof report? I created a pdf file for my proof report, but can not locate the report.
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Thanks Ed for your quick response, now I need to find time to sleep instead of working on my genealogy with Evidentia....
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Ed Thompson
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Thank you!
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Evidentia Quickstart Guide -- What an awesome piece of work. I hadn't thought about the top of the first page, box on the Right before, in that way. But it really, in a great graphic, tells us how we might use this program. The *Basic Tasks in Evidentia".

What a great job. Thank you

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I agree. Job well done. Nice dedication, as well. Both you and Dear Myrtle deserve the recognition. 
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Betsy Lusby

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Just wanted to report that I just purchased the Evidentia Companion in PDF format and downloaded it to my computer.  Can now start reading at lunch.  Also got the Quickstart Guide.   Thanks Ed for creating these.  I have the entering of sources and assertions.  I'm still struggling with writing my analyses and conclusions.  I'm sure these two items will help me tremendously.
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Ed Thompson
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The PDF version of the book is now available!

You can order at http://evidentiasoftware.com/get-the-software/#books

Currently no bundles include the electronic copy, but we are looking into it.
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Let me know what you think!
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Ed Thompson
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Is anyone able to comment on Stephanie Daniels post? Something funky in Google+ is blocking me....
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That's really odd. I can't even edit or post on that post. 
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Mark Cunningham

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Classification of Claim in 1880 US Census: Which is it?

Since I do not know exactly who provided the information to the enumerator it seems it should be Indeterminable. Seems I read this is treated the same as Secondary but there must be some reason to choosing one over the other or it would not be a choice, right?
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There are only two censuses I know of where we know who gave the information to the census taker -- the 1940 US Federal Census, where (as CollectingCousins said) the informant is marked with an X, and the 1911 Census in England, Wales, and Ireland (but not Scotland), where the original household schedules survive.  For more information on how the  the US Census was taken, see "Who Talked to the Census Taker?" by archivist Claire Prechtel-Kluskens, originally published in NGS magazine:  https://twelvekey.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/ngsmagazine2005-10.pdf
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Betty Dees

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Thanks for adding me! I look forward to learning and using the Evidentia software. 
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Welcome! You'll find this a helpful group. :)
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