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Ed Thompson
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Whose going to the 47th Southern California
Genealogy Jamboree?

Although we don't have a booth this year, Elizabeth Swanay-O'Neal will be there this year representing Evidentia with a special promotion, and we would like to know if there are any Evidentia users out there who she should look for!
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+Ed Thompson​, I'll be there. I've just started using the program a few months ago, so still a beginner. 
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How do you use your Evidentia Reports? Do you include them in family trees on Ancestry, Wikitree, or FamilySearch? How?
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Deborah Robinson's profile photoRuss Worthington's profile photo
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+Stephanie Daniels  - I copy / paste the report into Fact Notes in my genealogy database. That is why I like the use of the term Claim. I can easily translate that to Fact in my database.

I have blogged about that.

Russ
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Hoping to get some help on this. I have a collection of various family papers from my grandfather. I have cited them as original documents into Evidentia and created claims for them. I have now realized I should have used a Source Citation for the whole group as a personal collection (Family Papers of ...) and then cited each one under the collection. So, my question is...

Can you move citations from one source to another?

I hate to have to start over and re-enter all the claims for each document. I hope this makes sense.
Thanks,
Trish :)
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Thanks Ed. I'll just start over. :( I really want to get it done. I've just started using Evidentia, thus my rocky start. I'll get the hang of it.
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Does anyone else use RootsMagic 7? I am having some issues importing proofs...
• My Evidentia Citation Listing is being added as a RM7 Research Note, not the RM7 Footnote.
• The RM7 Footnote is the Evidentia Source Title(Evidentia Source Listing)
• The Evidentia Source Listing is correctly added as the RM7 Bibliography

Also, since I spent all that time classifying the source and the evidence as primary/secondary, original/derivative, and Direct/Indirect is there any way that gets imported? Either into the corresponding RM7 fields or as a note?

Should I generate a Evidentia Proof Report and include it somewhere in RM7?

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Thanks! I used the following settings for export (I was following the Quick Start Guide) http://i.imgur.com/TpHKrFV.png and here is what the fact looks like when imported into Roots Magic 7 (also using the QS method): http://i.imgur.com/LroF8Zr.png
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Ed Thompson
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I am pleased to announce that we have filled the Director of Marketing and Social media position at #Evidentia #Genealogy Software. More news to follow. Thanks to all who applied, your support was overwhelming!
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Great News!
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Ed Thompson
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Are you a fan of Evidentia and a genealogy blogger? Now is a great time to become an Evidentia Affiliate - special Affiliate premiums are being offered during NGS2016! Join the fun before April 28th at http://evidentiasoftware.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-affiliate-platform/affiliates/register.php
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Ed Thompson
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It is with great regret that Evidentia will not be represented at NGS 2016 this year. Stay tuned for an announcement about NGS related savings on Evidentia products during the conference even in our absence!
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And I to being visited!
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Is there a template for recording immigration records such as ship records?
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Give it a try. If you need help just let us know.
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Debi McGee Hoag

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I'm stumped. I've read the relevant portions of the Evedentia Companion, the Help section, and searched the blog but can't find a way to duplicate the database. What I'm trying to accomplish is to split out a family completely, remove them from one dataset and put them in one of their own. I started out thinking that I wanted to keep everything in one database but, on further reflection, have changed my mind.

I don't want to touch the database or move it, just duplicate it exactly. Once that is done, the list screens can be used to clean out the people/citations/sources that don't apply to the family being researched.

The GEDCOM export/import method doesn't work because I'm not ready to make family connections on some of the people. Just because I know that someone was a grandchild doesn't mean I know which child they belong to.

Have I missed something or am I asking for the impossible?
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Sorry, Russ, I've still not been clear. This family isn't in RootsMagic yet. They may never be if I can't reach a conclusion that proves to my satisfaction where they fit in. I found the obituary while working through my 10 year old files as part of a do-over. It was the first source for that family that I had come to so I didn't think before I began the evaluation process in Evedentia. I want to split it out now before I go any further. Ed's told me how, so it's all good.

Debi
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Debi McGee Hoag

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I'm working my way through my first Proof Analysis and have two questions.

1. In the "Research Notes" dialog box, is "Add Citation" missing by design or because no one ever asked for it? If the latter and if it's possible to add it, I promise to make good use of it.

2. Where does one change the "Prepared By ..." name? I used the VERY long form of my name when setting the software up. It's so long that it runs over the page number in the footers. I'd like to change it to the shorter version.
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As far as cut and paste goes, I'd really like to keep it all within the program generated PDF file. I LOVE that you've given us a way to generate the report numerous times until it's just the way it suits us.
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Ed Thompson
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Anyone use the Digital File Manager, or do you just use the attachment of digital files from a source or citation record?
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wonderful news
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Ed Thompson
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Anyone using the "Link Source to Original" option on the Document a Source screen? It was for an idea that never really gelled and I am considering dropping it in v3
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I've used it.

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About this community

Discuss Evidentia: Genealogy software that gives a voice to your sources by turning what you know into sentence statements you can use in your analysis. Input what source data you have in this intuitive format and see what you really know about your research. Evidentia is a tool for the modern genealogist whose goal is to draw conclusions based on the sources gathered in their family history research.

Dick Thompson

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I am in the process of a Genealogy Do-Over and decided to use Evidentia and Legacy 8 to document my research. After conducting an online search I found by father's obituary on the local funeral home's website. I also found an abstract of the same obituary on Ancestry.com. The abstract contains an error. How do I handle this conflict? 
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Thank you. I was over complicating the process.
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Elizabeth O'Neal
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Happy birthday to Evidentia creator +Ed Thompson! In honor of his birthday, he is giving YOU a gift today: Buy the Evidentia software and the Companion Book and you will get the QuickStart Guide for FREE. And this is on top of the free shipping and 16% sale that is already in progress! Check out the details here: http://ow.ly/4nkd1V
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Elizabeth O'Neal
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Now is a great time to stock up on Evidentia products!
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Ed Thompson
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Growth is a good thing, right?

Evidentia Software is looking for a Part Time Director of Marketing and Social Media to help springboard the company to the next level.

We are looking for an “Evidentia Evangelist”, an enthusiastic genealogist who wants to take their hobby to the next level. Main responsibilities include increasing the visibility of Evidentia in the genealogy community and maintaining a positive reputation for the services offered by the application. We believe Evidentia Software, LLC is growing and we are looking for someone who wants to grow with it.

For more information, check out the job posting at We are Hiring!
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I am pleased to announce that we have filled the Director of Marketing and Social media position at #Evidentia #Genealogy Software. More news to follow. Thanks to all who applied, your support was overwhelming!
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I have just started using this program and cannot seem to get answers to question on the Facebook page.   Maybe someone here can help?

 If a name is spelled wrong on a certificate or census, do we make the claim on the correct spelling or put in the additional spelling? what should I do with Military records in the document a source?? If I have two families on one census record do I have to document the source twices?????
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Glenda Coughenour's profile photoBrian Bucklein's profile photo
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Here is how I address those situations:

When entering the claim, I spell the name exactly as it is written on the document.  As Russ said, a single document does not establish the name is incorrect.  However, on the subject of the claim, I do not create a separate subject for each spelling, since I want all of the claims with different spellings to show up when I do the analysis.

When I have multiple families on the same census, I tend to create the source once, and enter a separate citation for each family of interest.  That way I don't have to duplicate the source information and yet it is still fairly simple to locate each family in Evidentia.

Hope that helps.
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So, this may be more of a EE! citation question than strictly Evidentia, but I'm not sure. I have a digital scan (2016) of a Certified Copy (1977, now in my fathers possession) of a Delayed Birth Certificate (1942) for the birth of my grandmother (1920).

The certified copy also contains some additional information, as it still has the address it was sent to, and is addressed to my grandmother as Mrs. Husbands Name. (residence and spousal evidence). This info wouldn't be on any other copies of this.

Any suggestions on how to cite that, and how to treat the information within (Primary, etc)? It was filled out by my great-grandmother, but 20 years later, requested by my grandmother 35 years after that.

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First of all, you are correct in assuming your questions would probably be more appropriate for the forum at www.evidenceexplained.com. However, I don't mind contributing what I 'think.'

If I were only interested in the evidence within the certificate, itself, I would cite it as a Vital Record, State or Local, as applicable. The information within regarding the birth would normally be Primary, but you indicate that it was a delayed filing by twenty-two years. You have to ask yourself if that is still Primary. Also, each piece of evidence within must be evaluated separately.

Having said all of that, we return to your point about your desire to cite evidence that is unique to only this copy. Now, in my opinion, you have moved it into the realm of a Privately Held Family Artifact, and I refer you to Elizabeth Shown Mills, <i>Evidence Explained: Citing History Sources from Artifacts to Cyberspace,<i/> 3d ed. (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2015), 3.25, p. 138.
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Betsy Lusby

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I've got a question when cataloging claims from sources that lists the person's age at the time the record was created, and was wondering how people were handling it. I was cataloging it with the "Age" tag, but got to wondering if it should be cataloged with the "Birth" tag, and then use the age calculator along with the date that the record was created and get an estimate birth date.

Or if you don't bother with that at all, I'd love to hear your reasoning.

Thanks.
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Thanks Ed. When I initially input data on my grandmother, I broke out everything, like birth date, birth place, baptism date, baptism place. That was just getting to be too much ran a read a records summary report. So I'm combining claims as much as possible.

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Sandy Hansen

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I downloaded a copy of Evidentia and have started to look at it. My question (or suggestion) has to do with entering a census record. The method suggested in the Quick Start and videos seem overly cumbersome. In a future version I might suggest the following:
• Enter the basic census information to create the citation. Maybe even have the ability to automatically extract the details from a copy paste of the “Citation Information” from Ancestory.com and other sites
• As an advanced feature, enter your Ancestry .com login information into the application and just paste the Web Address from the Citation Information screen in Ancestry to have Evidentia automatically create a suggested citation for you. This could be expanded to other on-line services based of their popularity and user requests.
• Transcribe the actual data from the image into a “form” that includes all of the fields on the census in question. You would need the ability to add lines for each person on the page you enter data for. The form should allow the “Supplementary Questions” when needed (such as line 14 & 29 of the 1940 Census)
• Evidentia should automatically create suggested claims for each person entered on the form. The claims would obviously vary depending on the census used, but should include things like family relationships, birth data ranges, residence and census inclusion.
• The user would need to manually accept or reject each claim and associate the claim to a person
• The data entry form should be available as an exportable object, just like the census worksheets that are available on-line or in many genealogy programs.
I understand the arguments that this would be dumbing down the program, but it may help many people get started using GPS as part of their research. It would also help drive constantly within Evidentia as to how the data is entered and what claims are made.
This feature could be expanded to other document types as time permits. For example, a birth certificate has a set of data that could be entered into a generic form and suggested claims made based on the data that is present.
I feel that there is a lot of value in just getting the data off of the actual record and into a generic format that can be easily worked with. And yes, I do recognize that this data form would be a derived source, may contain transcription errors and be subject to all of the same limitations as other derived sources.

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+Sandy Hansen Like Linda, I have obtained great benefit from the fact that Evidentia DOES make me slow down to enter all my information.  I am in the process of a complete do-over, so I am also entering EVERY piece of information as I go.  It is tedious, but in this painfully slow process I have discovered several things I missed by taking the "auto-fill" route.  (Petty things like finally being able to prove the parent-child relationship of my 3rd great grandparents and my 2nd great grandmother).

For me, this is one of the major selling points for Evidentia.  The fact that it makes you go through each source with a fine-toothed comb and enter every single piece of information is THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE SOFTWARE.  Asking for ready-made claims that you can accept or reject is pure laziness.  If you're looking for software that is going to do the work for you, keep using Ancestry and its shaky leaves.  If you REALLY want to hear what your sources have to say, and be able to reach sound conclusions for your research, use Evidentia for the analysis tool it was meant to be.

As for cutting/pasting web addresses to get your citation info, try easybib.com or citethisforme.com - they will do it for you.  But again, knowing how to craft a proper source citation is a critical part of the analysis of your information.  Eventually, all these shortcuts you asked for will show in your final product and then you'll just end up with other researchers questioning whether your conclusions are reliable.

Basically, you are asking for more than the software is intended to do.  It is intended to be a tool used to simplify the analysis of your information in order to reach a sound written conclusion per the GPS.  Anything else makes it just another genealogy database program.
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