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Trying to find a translation from an old book. Can anyone help
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Thanks for taking the time to work on that, Ian.
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New forum on Reddit for fans of Emma Dearborn's original Speedwriting.
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Cool, thanks!
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Christie Patel

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Hi, I am a student and I would like to learn shorthand to help with note taking. I have visited many sites on the internet explaining the various types and each one's history, however I am still puzzled upon which type to learn. I have a considerable amount of time to learn (I am in no hurry!), however I am not the most patient person.
So, I would like to ask: what type should I pick, and is there a type which is easier that I can then build upon and so write more words per minute once I have mastered the easier type? Thank you for your help!
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Hi Christie I am Imran. Actually it depends upon what type of Shorthand is being explained in your City, I can teach you Pitman Shorthand online. if it is good for you or for your goal so feel free contact me at my Email: imrangabol786786@gmail.com   
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TheRise2arun

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Hello friends.
I want to learn shorthand to attain a minimum 80 wpm -100 wpm speed to qualify for a govt exam skill test. The time i have is maximum 4 months to reach that speed.
From what i have researched in the online articles, i have decided to learn teeline method.
Kindly confirm if iam right in my decision and suggest me good online learning courses and best books to start from the basics.
Thank you.
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+TheRise2arun where u live?
I've 2yr exprnce in pitman shorthand teaching 
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Mikhail Kuznetsov (Rev. Capt.)
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Ze Ro, here's a photo of one of the pages of my Pitmanscript Basic Text.

This should give you a good idea of how it works, this is probably the most advanced stage of Pitmascript from the very end of the thin book. I don't know of any other textbooks.
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Greetings All,

Is anyone interested in helping me transcribe a sermon by Ellen G. White from March 7, 1891? This is a newly discovered sermon and it is not available in plain English at the present time. It is written in Pitman shorthand by Harvey Edson Rogers. I have been working on transcribing this by myself for several weeks, but could really use some help! Please let me know.

Thanks,
Kevin
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+Rita Geraghty thank u 
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Lesley Hebert

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Shorthand has been used since Roman times to write secret messages and to produce accurate transcripts of the spoken word.
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Freja Cole

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I'm looking into learning some form of shorthand. I was going to try and learn Gregg shorthand, but then I found this site that has a system that seems similar to Gregg. Could anyone give me a few tips or recommendations as to if I should pursue this "Handywrite" form or perhaps pursue Gregg or some other form instead? Any help is appreciated!

(Edit) Also, I have noticed that, being from a southern state, my slight accent causes there to be discrepancies between the way some vowels are pronounced and the way I pronounce them. (For example, "can" and "cat" should have the same-sounding "a," but due to my accent, they sound different) How should I go about tackling this? Should I try writing them as I would pronounce them or write them the correct way?
An overview of the Handywrite handwriting system.
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Zo Ro, I just have another look at Teeline at YouTube. I am learning my basic at this video link below. Tutor Sue makes Teeline so easy and memorable.
http://youtu.be/A-Vd-lV1PJg
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Last year, I came across an interesting structural connection between Gregg Shorthand and the Mnemonic Major System, which is a broadly used system for mnemonists and people improving their memory.  

Has anyone else seen/heard anything about a historical link between these two?
The commonly acknowledged mnemonic techniques behind the major system utilize the same consonant linguistic structure as John Robert Gregg's Shorthand.
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+Mikhail Kuznetsov, I have just bookmarked that book link you gave. It is a very interesting book. Thank you. 
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Rich Harrison

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I've updated the Alfabetter blog with a description of the first Teeline book(let) and links to a couple of blogs that current or potential students of Gregg might enjoy.
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That is some AMAZING stuff there.  I wish I knew how step three on the cover above is done.  It's like a whole new level of compression.  I've heard from oldtimers that original Teeline could be writen at over 200 wpm, rivaling Pitman in speed.
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Hi there - I'm looking to learn Pitman shorthand for my job as a journalist. I know that Teeline is the more popular option but the phonetic approach appeals! However, I'm struggling to find anywhere in the UK that offers qualifications in pitman - if I teach myself I want to be able to get a qualification at the end. Can anyone advise on test centres? 
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Hi lindsay I am Imran i can teach you Pitman Shorthand online if you want to feel free contact me at my E-mail: imrangabol786786@gmail.com                
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Florian Jenn

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Sorry, a bit late...
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Oops, I realised there’s a mistake in the first line (German Stiefo basic level): th e second word (Ostern) should start with a longer line (for “o”). :-(
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Ethan Woodbury

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Hi, I'm looking for somebody who lives in the San Francisco Bay Area to mentor me in learning shorthand for a school project. I will learn primarily on my own from a shorthand workbook, but I need a mentor to sign off on my progress and make sure that I am learning correctly. I am open to learning any form of shorthand based on what form you know.

Let me know if you can help out or if you want any more information!
Thanks so much!
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Got it. Shorthand is a very very niche thing these days, so it might be that you won't actually find anyone. I'm sure you can find paid courses in SF, but if you want to eventually go the lone route, I can highly recommend Harry Butler's Teeline Made Simple book. Teeline isn't a popular system in the US, but it won't take you 3 years to learn, like if you were learning a court reporting system. 
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Joshua Taylor

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I don't know if this would interest any of you as this seems to be a group for pen shorthand, but if any of you are interested in machine shorthand I am keeping track of my learning of it via a google doc.

Feel free to check it out if you're interested. It should be updated at least daily (minus Sundays) if all goes according to plan.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G_MpTrQHF7kOHyJ5F5GCM95Ow_X3lYXbrDcixNjKImA/edit?usp=sharing
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Thanks to Rita Geraghty for poiting out these wonderful Teeline lessons online.
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Wait till you get to lesson #2 where same tutor Sue make Teeline all very easy for beginners to learn and remember. I can't believe I have learned all the Teeline alphabets in such a short space of time. I am going on to learning words next. 
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Ze Ro

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Hi I've heard of pitmanscript is this the same as 2000 or variation of pitman? 
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Oh, most importantly, about Pitmanscript, unlike many other system, it may be slow, but it does not go stale, you can read it back always.
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Kim Van beelen

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Has anyone heard of Mercury shorthand. A friend of mine learnt it around 40 years ago in a secretarial college in Bondi NSW Australia.
She thought it was developed by the man who taught the class. Anyhow I cannot find a scrap of information on it. It is based on the alphabet. Has anyone heard of it before.
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I have the book now. I am interested if anyone finds the following familiar with what system they're using.
@ represents a
a tick or full stop  represents  the
sCs  -  as much as
slgs  -  as long as
l  -  well, will, all
Ch  -  check
Cp  -  cheap
ses, sis, size, sus are expressed by a large S
faS  -  phases
baS  -  basis
ing is represented by a full stop
the sounds tr, dr, thr and ture are expressed:
b/  -  better
le/s  - leaders
kn/  -  kinder
anyone know this?
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Here's a wonderful Tumblr page for anyone studying Simplified
Gregg Shorthand Study & Practice (focus on the Simplified Version)
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A neat video on shorthand from the UK's journalist training authority. 
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My gx3 uncle, the Rev Francis W. Cox, was a prominent clergyman and political activist in colonial South Australia, and before emigrating there from the UK in 1857, he is said to have been one of Isaac Pitman's earliest shorthand students. The South Australian State Library in Adelaide has a number of his detailed diaries in its archives, and chunks of these diaries are written in Pitman's shorthand.

It would appear that Francis Cox used Pitman's for any particularly-sensitive comments he was making. I recently visited Adelaide and was able to take good quality copies of parts of the diaries.

A former work colleague has been able to transcribe some bits, but she thinks the pages need to be looked at by someone more familiar with earlier versions of Pitman's. Can anyone help? Attached is a small example from the diary.
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Have you tried carruth@xmission.com whoknows early Pitman systems?  Her services cost but I've had nothing but good feedback from everyone I've sent her way.
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