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TheRise2arun

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Hello friends.
I want to learn shorthand to attain a minimum 80 wpm -100 wpm speed to qualify for a govt exam skill test. The time i have is maximum 4 months to reach that speed.
From what i have researched in the online articles, i have decided to learn teeline method.
Kindly confirm if iam right in my decision and suggest me good online learning courses and best books to start from the basics.
Thank you.
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you should try http://lewiscollege.co.uk/courses/teeline-shorthand-courses  they charge £390 for theeir advanced one but its for beginners looking to learn up to the 100wpm mark the basic one is for up to 80wpm email or call for info.
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Joshua Taylor

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I don't know if this would interest any of you as this seems to be a group for pen shorthand, but if any of you are interested in machine shorthand I am keeping track of my learning of it via a google doc.

Feel free to check it out if you're interested. It should be updated at least daily (minus Sundays) if all goes according to plan.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G_MpTrQHF7kOHyJ5F5GCM95Ow_X3lYXbrDcixNjKImA/edit?usp=sharing
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Joshua Taylor's Steno BlogJoshua Taylor’s Steno Blog: Learning Steno Joshua Taylor On the 13th of February 2015, Lars Doucet began recording his ongoing progress in teaching himself steno through Plover and a variety of other tools he either found or, in some cases, made himself (https://goo.gl/R6yJ5S). While my approach...
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Thanks to Rita Geraghty for poiting out these wonderful Teeline lessons online.
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Wait till you get to lesson #2 where same tutor Sue make Teeline all very easy for beginners to learn and remember. I can't believe I have learned all the Teeline alphabets in such a short space of time. I am going on to learning words next. 
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Greetings All,

Is anyone interested in helping me transcribe a sermon by Ellen G. White from March 7, 1891? This is a newly discovered sermon and it is not available in plain English at the present time. It is written in Pitman shorthand by Harvey Edson Rogers. I have been working on transcribing this by myself for several weeks, but could really use some help! Please let me know.

Thanks,
Kevin
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+Rita Geraghty thank u 
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Lesley Hebert

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Shorthand has been used since Roman times to write secret messages and to produce accurate transcripts of the spoken word.
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Freja Cole

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I'm looking into learning some form of shorthand. I was going to try and learn Gregg shorthand, but then I found this site that has a system that seems similar to Gregg. Could anyone give me a few tips or recommendations as to if I should pursue this "Handywrite" form or perhaps pursue Gregg or some other form instead? Any help is appreciated!

(Edit) Also, I have noticed that, being from a southern state, my slight accent causes there to be discrepancies between the way some vowels are pronounced and the way I pronounce them. (For example, "can" and "cat" should have the same-sounding "a," but due to my accent, they sound different) How should I go about tackling this? Should I try writing them as I would pronounce them or write them the correct way?
An overview of the Handywrite handwriting system.
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Zo Ro, I just have another look at Teeline at YouTube. I am learning my basic at this video link below. Tutor Sue makes Teeline so easy and memorable.
http://youtu.be/A-Vd-lV1PJg
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Last year, I came across an interesting structural connection between Gregg Shorthand and the Mnemonic Major System, which is a broadly used system for mnemonists and people improving their memory.  

Has anyone else seen/heard anything about a historical link between these two?
The commonly acknowledged mnemonic techniques behind the major system utilize the same consonant linguistic structure as John Robert Gregg's Shorthand.
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+Mikhail Kuznetsov, I have just bookmarked that book link you gave. It is a very interesting book. Thank you. 
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Rich Harrison

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I've updated the Alfabetter blog with a description of the first Teeline book(let) and links to a couple of blogs that current or potential students of Gregg might enjoy.
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That is some AMAZING stuff there.  I wish I knew how step three on the cover above is done.  It's like a whole new level of compression.  I've heard from oldtimers that original Teeline could be writen at over 200 wpm, rivaling Pitman in speed.
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Florian Jenn

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The same two sentences in two languages/systems:
 
In reply to +Nathanael Farley​, "This is how I write Teeline. This is how I write shorthand." For comparison, also in German. ;-)
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Oh yeah, I've seen that one.  I'm working on my obsession on being right all the time.  And I'm right about it.
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I've said before that I'm learning Gregg Anniversary and I started chapter 2/unit 4 this week.  It is so exciting to have the rest of the main 'consonants' to write with!  At first I was a little disappointed that I won't learn the other two main vowels until chapters 3 & 4 but really, I have so many new short forms to memorize on top of the new letter forms and the special s and z rules coming up in the next two units, that I have plenty to work on!

I also started a new blog to ramble about my journey. and I have a page explaining what materials I'm using and my study schedule.
http://ashorthandjourney.blogspot.com/
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ohh, that sounds like a great idea!  I've been doing ok so far, but getting worried about being able to cram many more forms into my head.  thanks for the tip!
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OMG, my hard copy of the Gregg Anniversary edition arrived today!  I love it!  and it has that wonderfully delicious old book smell!
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yep!  up until now I've been using the resources at http://gregg.angelfishy.net/index.shtml but it is so nice to be able to hold a book in my hands and see the shorthand written out on paper.


here's a list of what I've been using, and a rough outline of my study schedule: http://ashorthandjourney.blogspot.com/p/current-course-of-study-i-am-using.html
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Ze Ro, here's a photo of one of the pages of my Pitmanscript Basic Text.

This should give you a good idea of how it works, this is probably the most advanced stage of Pitmascript from the very end of the thin book. I don't know of any other textbooks.
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Ze Ro

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Hi I've heard of pitmanscript is this the same as 2000 or variation of pitman? 
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Oh, most importantly, about Pitmanscript, unlike many other system, it may be slow, but it does not go stale, you can read it back always.
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Kim Van beelen

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Has anyone heard of Mercury shorthand. A friend of mine learnt it around 40 years ago in a secretarial college in Bondi NSW Australia.
She thought it was developed by the man who taught the class. Anyhow I cannot find a scrap of information on it. It is based on the alphabet. Has anyone heard of it before.
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I have the book now. I am interested if anyone finds the following familiar with what system they're using.
@ represents a
a tick or full stop  represents  the
sCs  -  as much as
slgs  -  as long as
l  -  well, will, all
Ch  -  check
Cp  -  cheap
ses, sis, size, sus are expressed by a large S
faS  -  phases
baS  -  basis
ing is represented by a full stop
the sounds tr, dr, thr and ture are expressed:
b/  -  better
le/s  - leaders
kn/  -  kinder
anyone know this?
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Here's a wonderful Tumblr page for anyone studying Simplified
Gregg Shorthand Study & Practice (focus on the Simplified Version)
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A neat video on shorthand from the UK's journalist training authority. 
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My gx3 uncle, the Rev Francis W. Cox, was a prominent clergyman and political activist in colonial South Australia, and before emigrating there from the UK in 1857, he is said to have been one of Isaac Pitman's earliest shorthand students. The South Australian State Library in Adelaide has a number of his detailed diaries in its archives, and chunks of these diaries are written in Pitman's shorthand.

It would appear that Francis Cox used Pitman's for any particularly-sensitive comments he was making. I recently visited Adelaide and was able to take good quality copies of parts of the diaries.

A former work colleague has been able to transcribe some bits, but she thinks the pages need to be looked at by someone more familiar with earlier versions of Pitman's. Can anyone help? Attached is a small example from the diary.
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Have you tried carruth@xmission.com whoknows early Pitman systems?  Her services cost but I've had nothing but good feedback from everyone I've sent her way.
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In case you have missed it: the Teeline group https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/112274173180941575512 is quite active now. I’m learning Teeline and frequently post my writing to ask for hints and corrections. At least two people always give helpful comments.

So if you are also learning, joint the fun! :-)
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I'll go join))
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Long time since learning this in 1965!
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I am the real president you know? Bush and OBAMA usurped me!

I take Gregg at about 70 women and type and read at over 100!

My maither took Pitman at over 80!

Let's see I am a PROLIFE maither and grandmaither never used drugs like the "boys" and JEWISH but a believer in Yahshua!

ZIONIST Jews hate me and Italians as well and the latest the Africans even more!

I think I made heaven already! Been lied about beaten up my children attacked hated by ALL!

I am a woman skilled very morally inclined do not smoke drink swear gamble read the bible pray the Rosary want Peace not War!

A real oddball seeking sainthood over popularity!

Children love me! But I do not shake hands I use the Sign the Cross hate the filthnet really!

Glad you filled me in on shorthand learning my genius level iq always needs someone to tell me what I already know very well!

Sorry to be upset but it's SONday and praying unceasingly is my top priority!
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I’m still in the very early stages of learning #Teeline . I’ve found this nice quote (in Lichtenberg’s aphorisms, of all things) and would like to know if I got everything right, or at least no glaring errors.

Thanks!

    It is not easy to write like a madman, though it is very easy to write like a fool. – Nathaniel Lee
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+Florian Jenn Exactly!  Congrats on getting a "proper" Teeline book.  I've got the Teeline Gold book too.  However, my favourite is "Teeline made easy", which isn't in any way easier than the other course books, it's just presented in a slightly less formal tone.  Teeline Gold is good too, there is nothing missing, of course.
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