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#TheRefinery crew discuss the ever controversial and sticky area of freedom of association and its interaction with the civil rights act of 1964.

Bring Back the Distinction Between Public and Private - http://thefederalist.com/2015/04/27/bring-back-the-distinction-between-public-and-private/

SCOTUS Arguments on Gay Marriage - http://www.scotusblog.com/2015/04/evening-round-up-todays-argument-in-obergefell-v-hodges/#more-227654

Should GoFundMe and Christian Bakers Be Treated the Same? We Ask (Daily Signal) - http://dailysignal.com/2015/04/28/should-gofundme-and-christian-bakers-be-treated-the-same-we-ask/

Crowder Asks Muslim Bakeries to Bake Gay Wedding Cake - http://louderwithcrowder.com/hidden-camera-gay-wedding-cake-at-muslim-bakery/

Sweet Cakes Faces $135,000 Fine - http://nypost.com/2015/04/26/christian-bakers-face-135k-fine-for-refusing-to-make-cake-for-gay-wedding/

Gay Pride T-shirt Case - http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/04/28/christian-t-shirt-company-doesnt-have-to-print-gay-pride-festival-shirts-court-says/


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Larry Olson

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Amusing. I appreciate campaign people with a good sense of humor. (That, as opposed to the bitter, unfunny humor of the Obama campaigns).
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Pradheep Shanker
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+Jeremy Hall Don't understand your response. I don't know what to say...but ...Huh?  Please inform me the law that lists the “bad cop” statute these police officers were charged with breaking.  “Systematic racism is actually pretty color blind if you are the one holding the whip”...huh?  Racism is color blind?  That's like saying antisemitism can happen to any religion if they're the ones being hated for their religion.  Do you have any idea how what you wrote makes absolutely no sense at all on any level?  Wow! 
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Bill Polhemus

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The truly bizarre thing: I will still have Leftards tell me that "there is no media bias toward liberalism."
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Got into an argument this morning on this very thing...
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The irony.
Hi yah! Hillary Clinton throat punches her female voting base.
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Of course because puppets have no brains and that's a major requirement in voting for Hillary ....
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David Williams

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Why Capitalism succeeds in the west and failures everywhere else. 
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Pradheep Shanker
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The best part of this?

Most everyone didn't really care...nor were all that interested. 

That is the way it should be. 
Guy Benson is gay, but he doesn't really think that matters. The Townhall.com political editor does, however, think LGBT people should be more open to gay Republicans — even as he thinks gay issues...
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+Leslie P I agree.  I could not care less where he likes to put his thinggy. But the media seems like we all have to know, even when we don't want to.
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OK, I posted this public, but I think it is well worth conservatives take some time to read and understand this.

What Chetty et. al show is there is wide local discrepancies in how poor children advance on the economic ladder. 

His take hope point? “The broader lesson of our analysis is that social mobility should be tackled at a local level.”

Note...that goes against EVERYTHING liberals (and a few Republicans, like George W. Bush) have said about education. 

For the record...I live in Franklin County (which they specifically discuss here).  The major difference between Franklin and Knox counties for the poor?  The school systems. Columbus spends more, and gets less, for its educational dollars. It is as simple as that. 
 
Interesting read. FWIW, I actually live in Franklin County..and there are many reasons for this discrepancy. 
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Damn i wish i would have read this when i was a kid so i would have known not to succeed...
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Leslie P
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And Then There Were Five
With a sixth expected tomorrow. The GOP-POTUS field is taking shape. There are going to be a LOT of candidates, and they are all pretty danged excellent. It's really an embarrassment of riches on our side.

We've got Cruz, Paul, Rubio, Carson, and Fiorina now. Huckabee tomorrow, and a handful yet to come.

LOTS to get excited about.

The other guys? They've got Hillary. And Bernie.

Almost makes me feel sorry for them.

Almost.

OK, not really. Not at all. Not even a little.
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+Greg Mee I didn't forget Old Lady Lizzie. I'm ;just mentioning the ones who have officially announced, and Lieawatha keeps denying that she's running, so she gets no name check from ME.
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Pradheep Shanker
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Basically..nothing chnages. The same discussion we had for 2012. 
As the country has become more divided and polarized, the number of swing states has steadily shrunk. Even in 2000, when 537 votes in Florida elected a president, just 12 states were decided by five points or less. That number contracted to just four states in 2012. When Jimmy Carter defeated President Gerald Ford in 1976, every big state was competitive:...
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It may be the same discussion, but I believe that Ben Carson has shifted the emphasis to more important issues:  Education, Debt, Securing the border.
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JD b

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So, I actually wrote something for a change, let me know what you guys think!

Of course, I have to give thanks to my friend for entrusting this story to me, and it is a really frustrating one, particularly after last night's anti-free speech shooting in Garland, Texas:

"Earlier today, a friend of mine told me about something he experienced this morning in one of his classes. Tasked with giving an oral report on DC vs. Heller, he talked to the class about the facts behind the case, as well as why gun control was not only bad policy, but also a danger to civil society, preceding several totalitarian takeovers.
Here’s what he said happened AFTER he gave his report:
“My professor looked at me and said…”
‘You’re lucky the first amendment protects your freedom of speech.’"
Read the whole thing, please, and share it so people can see what goes on in college classrooms across the country.
 
NEW on ‪#‎FRN‬ from @NJJDB "The Second Protects The Rest" ‪#‎2a‬ ‪#‎JeSuisGarland‬ http://freeradicalnetwork.com/the-second-protects-the-rest/
Earlier today, a friend of mine told me about something he experienced this morning in one of his classes.  Tasked with giving an oral report on DC vs. Heller, he talked to the class about the facts behind the case, as well as why gun control was not only bad…
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Yet they think that little thing called the establishment clause doesn't exist
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Mark Prasek

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Workers Call For UAW To Leave Alabama Plant
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Bill Polhemus

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The Left's response?

"It's the evil insurance companies!!!"

You know...the insurance companies Obama made backroom deals with before passing this legislation.

IT'S A FAILURE. I'd say "Deal with it, Leftards," but unfortunately the rest of us have to deal with the failure, too.
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David Williams

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“You get all these rural Mexicans who hate the government, hate taxes, love guns, and love the liberty to get as drunk as they want. Perfect Republicans. But the Republicans will never know that,
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Pradheep Shanker
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If you hate your mom, do I have a gift for you!
“Hillary wants to call someone's mom on Mother's Day. It could be yours: http://t.co/Mvt75Gzj9c”
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"Hey, Hillary!, would you do that 'cackle' thing for my mom, please? She loves that!"
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Gilbert Brahms

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If the government won't protect peaceful citizens from rioters and thugs, vigilantism becomes inevitable.
After riots swept parts of the United Kingdom last year, I wrote about the moral argument for gun ownership. Simply stated, it is wrong to disarm law-abiding people, particularly when there is a risk of societal breakdown.
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Looters should be shot on sight. Nuff said.
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Annie Oakley

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Good article deciphering the recent, false report by the BLS on job growth in Walker's Wisconsin. Not only is Wisconsin NOT ranked 40th in the nation for job growth, it's ranked 9th. 
In The Wall Street Journal, Andy Puzder writes that Wisconsin unemployment is below the national average, while the labor-force participation rate is above the national average.
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You cannot have the BLS without the BS.
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"Obama keeps lying, people keep dying."
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