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Pretending Animals Exist For Our Sake...

Some folks adopt a very self centered view of the world in order to justify their needless killing of sentient beings. I explore this briefly with +Diz Missem, but (as always) I'd be thrilled to read your thoughts on the matter as well. =o)
 

+Diz Missem: "If people did not eat animals then those animals would have no reason to exist."

Hmm... FWIW, that seems like such a strange notion to me. Do I understand you correctly, +Diz Missem, that animals designated as being for eating only have a value when we eat them?

If so, then to my way of thinking this opens a whole slew of questions. e.g. Did they not have a reason to exist until humans started eating them? If we stopped eating them, would they then be meaningless beings? If a certain species is killed and eaten in one country or culture but it's taboo to do so in another (e.g. as is the case with dogs, cows, cats, pigs, etc.), then where does the being's reason to exist come from in either context?

For myself, I've interacted with and studied animals so much that I've come to have strong certainties about their self-hood, and much like human-animals draw their reason for existing from that well, it's clear to me that non-human-animals are no different in this regard.

At least, that's how I see it -- what do you think?

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This post is one in a series in which excerpts of discussions on veganism from other threads are reposted (or paraphrased) for the sake of expanding the conversation. As always, your thoughts and questions are welcome. See the full collection via the #spommveganchats hash (or perhaps with a more robust search, such as goo.gl/JoxZC ).

(for anyone requiring/desiring more context, the original conversation can be found at goo.gl/63476p )

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When we make first steps towards going vegan, we often experience some confusion. 'What do I need to eat now? How do I make sure I get enough nutrients? How can I stick with it long-term?' This article can help you:
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Made this tropical mood boosting smoothie for breakfast.... absolutely loved it!!! For more delicious green smoothie recipes, click here: http://www.body-in-balance.org/greensmoothie/
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Cool, I didn't realize that fish was a vegetable.
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I have noticed that there has been a lot of people over the past few weeks that seem to think its funny or whatever to post pictures / recipes of non-vegetarian dishes... specifically posting pictures of chicken, etc.

Now I am not normally an advocate of censorship, but being this is a forum for vegetarian cuisine I do not think this trollish behavior should be tolerated and I and many others here do not like to see it.  We here expect people to adhere to certain community standards and people that want to post those kinds of things are welcome to post them, but just not here and they should know that.

This behavior amounts to going into a church to piss on the statue of Jesus hanging in the alter.  It is disgusting, immature, unnecessary, and uncalled for.  If someone has a legitimate criticism in our way of life then they are more than welcome to make it in the discussion thread and have an actual conversation.

I just wanted to point this out because this has been a trend that has been increasing here and I think the mods should step in and do something before it becomes a problem.
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I'm not sure people are doing it out of spite, or just ignorance. It's quite possible they are sharing to all of their communities, or a subset of communities labelled food. Regardless, it is inappropriate for this community, and dishes with meat in them should be flagged as abuse.
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The Best Chocolate Smoothie – Energy Booster

This chocolate smoothie is the best way to boost your body with energy in a short period of time. If you feel exhausted or tired, we present you a healthy smoothie recipe that will give you enough energy.

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This chocolate smoothie is the best way to boost your body with energy in a short period of time. If you feel exhausted or tired, we present you a healthy smoothie recipe that will give you enough ene
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This watermelon #salad #recipe by +SEE Salt  will go perfectly with your #4thofJuly barbecue! http://bit.ly/1jKM1px
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Today's post is a jiffy one;a very and tasty raita made from brinjal.The roasted flavor of brinjal mixed with spiced-up curd gives a unique taste.Don’t you believe me? Then you must try and experience it ..Check here:http://smithakalluraya.blogspot.in/2014/07/brinjal-raitabaingan-ka-raitabadanekayi.html
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We love this sweet #Summer peach orchard #picnic! Such a unique spot for a gathering! #entertain #baking #dessert http://bit.ly/1qPM8rk
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{New post} Quick fix beetroot raita,easy side dish recipe @
http://www.cookclickndevour.com/2014/07/beetroot-raitathayir-pachadi-recipe-how.html
Thayirpachadi,ie raita is an integral part of south Indian meal.No festive feast is complete without a raita.The way it is made in south India is little different from how it is made elsewhere.After mixing in the veggies with...
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Volete fare una pausa fresca e leggera? Eccovi un ‪ goloso alle ‪#mandorle senza !
http://blog.giallozafferano.it/passioneperilcibo/dolce-alle-mandorle/
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My new blog on how becoming vegetarian is improving my health! 
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Hello to everyone in this group.  I am sending this because I am not able to locate my answer through searching here.

Ive spent 14 wonderful years cooking in professional restaurants and very knowledged in both vegetarian and vegan cuisines.

I was hoping to learn about this groups requests when it comes to sharing the dishes that are in the category of Vegetarian.  

I think we can all agree, everyone addresses their vegetarian intake to their own personal liking - Ive known Vegetarians who did consume eggs, cheese/dairy, fish... while other vegetarians who would only consume fish for their protein choices....

So - I ask this... would it be ok to share the different realms of Vegetarian cuisine here?  I do a variety of cooking both professionally and personally with a number of cuisines found globally and the term "vegetarian" truly does vary - I know it varies in my demographic greatly.

So before I insult, anger or get myself banned, I was hoping to touch base with this before I share any of my creations?  I have a few things I would love to share....  

(PS, I am very knowledged with Vegan so that is not an issue)
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Sounds good Kevin!  Thank you kindly!
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Easy,healthy and tasty breakfast,spicy paniyaram with idly batter recipe @
http://www.cookclickndevour.com/2013/06/kuzhi-paniyaram-spicy.html
Kuzhi paniyaram is a very famous breakfast or snacks item in Tamil nadu.This is a chettinad special item.Usually this is served with spicy and tangy tomato chutney and that is a lip smacking combo :). Though there is certainl...
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Thinking of cutting out potatoes from your #diet to lose weight? Think again! As it turns out, the humble white potato is a seriously underrated nutritional powerhouse:
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+Julia Ann Souders Thank-you for the wisdom mother Souders......much respect. 
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Coconut Raspberry Smoothie - made this delicious power booster full of plant goodness this morning.... with fresh raspberries straight from our garden :-)

RECIPE (serves 2)
2 cups pak soi
1/2 cup coconut milk
2 cups water
2 bananas
1/2 cup fresh raspberries
1 big orange or 2 small

Enjoy!

Click here to download your FREE green smoothie ebook: http://www.body-in-balance.org/greensmoothie/
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