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Robert Scoble
7 months agoPublic
I just heard an interesting rumor. Supposedly Google is renting 6,000 square feet inside every +Best Buy next  year. Why? My source says it's to sell +Google Glass.

Now, this is a rumor. If I was a journalist working for, say, Techcrunch, I'd call around and see if I can verify this rumor. But I would rather let this hang out here and see if someone like +Kara Swisher knows anything.

This makes sense, since you really need to try Glass before buying it to see if it's for you and you also need to have it fitted to your face (and, if you are like me and need prescription lenses you'll need all that taken care of too before you can order yours).

Anyone from Google want to verify this? +Vic Gundotra or +Steve Lee ?
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Matt Brown7 months ago
Now that would be awesome!+5
Joshua Holtzclaw7 months ago
It's not just Glass it will be a bunch of their products. Their laptops and cell phones and tablets+15
Ryan Warner7 months ago
+Robert Scoble - Interesting, I remember we all were speculating they'd be selling them in their own unannounced google stores by then.

Wouldn't be surprised with the support they've given to Best Buy for #chromecast  even if it's not exclusive. Probably would be a similiar roll-out.+6
Lukas Strößner7 months ago
Come on guys...I become crazy waiting for this!!!!!!!!+2
Mikhail Garber7 months ago
Would make sense to have equivalent to in-store Apple store. To sell Nexus devices mostly. And Chromebooks.
Robert colesby7 months ago
I don't know about the size. Most best buys don't have 6000 square feet to spare. +11
Bryce C7 months ago
My local best buy uses about 10 square feet for Chromebooks and Nexus and devices.+8
Johnny Zed7 months ago
This.  This this this this.

+Renaud Lepage are you seeing this?+3
Ross Taylor7 months ago
It makes sense to use existing stores rather than making their own because they can scale much more quickly.+2
Brian Simmons7 months ago
That's too much space for one device - I assure you the space isn't going to come free.   Either they are going to put in full Google stores, or this rumor is wrong IMHO.+1
Ryan White7 months ago
Best buy has been reported since 2011 of leasing excess space. +Robert colesby +4
Bradley Shaw7 months ago
Hmmm the 6,000 square feet is suspect.+2
Robert colesby7 months ago
I understand that but 6000 I don't know.
Mike Boysen7 months ago
Aren't Best Buys about 6000 Sq ft in total? +6
Zach Dunton7 months ago
With Apple, Samsung and now Google mini stores, Best Buy is on it's way to becoming a miniature try before you buy (online) tech mall.+1
Joseph Smith7 months ago
Maybe to sell Google Fiber?+1
Karen Herman7 months ago
We are always talking about Best Buy's ever changing retail strategies on RetailWire and store within store, like the Samsung Experience shops, is a growing trend. I don't like to see the leaders in tech all lined up at BB though. Hope Google goes for something more unique and innovative. Stand alone. Better than Apple. 
Carmelyne Thompson7 months ago
Does 6k sq ft include storage of products? It's most likely all Google devices.+3
Paul Garcia7 months ago
Unless the price is going to be real accessible for people I don't see that much space being used for it.
Daniel Bulygin7 months ago
Considering that Google wants to improve its retail presence - this makes total sense.
Wesley Stickles7 months ago
I doubt they would snatch up all that space for GLASS. I am sure it will be a range of products and perhaps GLASS in the future. Since they already have products that have proven to be successful, I think they would start with those products rather than GLASS. That being said I would really like to see a Chromebook Pixel in person.
Erin Peterson7 months ago
Would Glass have enough product volume to warrant any space at a brick and mortar retailer? I can't think they'd be turning many over at $1500/unit.
Samantha Myers7 months ago
Everyone, 6000ft TOTAL across every store, not just one. So day.. 10ft of space in a store and 20ft in another, etc.+4
Erik Collett7 months ago
Well played... I'm all for letting things like this hang out there.
Marc Wenning7 months ago
+Erin Peterson the retail versions are not going to cost $1500, they are rumored to be around $3-400.+4
Tony Stanislawski7 months ago
Interesting Idea #googleglasses  should also be in the eye glass shops.  Sell it as glasses to not just tech for Geeks!
Renaud Lepage7 months ago
+Johnny Zed my only response is this:

MINEMINEMINEMIIIIIINE+1
Shaker Cherukuri7 months ago
They should have acquired Best Buy last year.
Johnny Zed7 months ago
Let Mortal Kombat begin, +Renaud Lepage +1
Erin Peterson7 months ago
@Marc Wenning Well that's certainly more reasonable. I should start saving my pennies now.
Douglas Strinz7 months ago
6000 sq ft? Isn't that the same size as Microsoft is occupying in the store? I'd put it there. Microsoft's store won't last that long anyway ;-)
David Lee7 months ago
+Robert Scoble  Thanks for the news. This is very exciting news for me as my goal is now to have GPOP in every BestBuy!
Christina Warren7 months ago
I totally see Google renting space as part of Best Buy's growing store-within-a-store program (see Samsung, Microsoft and of course, Apple http://mashable.com/2013/04/04/best-buy-samsung-experience-shop/), but 6,000 square feet is far too large.

I was at one of the big concept stores in Dallas where Samsung unveiled their store-within-a-store concept and it was one of Best Buy's larger stores (there are different floor plans for stores, this was one of the biggest floor plans) and it was 460 square feet. Not bad at all -- and larger than the Apple section.

600 feet in the largest stores -- maybe 350-400 in smaller stores, I can see. 6,000 -- no. That's like as big as the entire TV department at some of those big stores. It wouldn't make sense to lease that much space. The largest floor plan is 45,000 square feet -- and there are 20,000 and 30,000 square foot stores too. You'd be talking about 1/8 of a big store and nearly 1/3 of the smallest stores...that's just not going to happen.

600 square feet for Google stuff (Nexus tablets and phones and Google Glass), yah, that I definitely believe.+9
Christina Warren7 months ago
Oh -- standard disclosure -- I was a Best Buy employee from 2000-2005.+4
Paul Mason7 months ago
60 ft x 100 ft, e.g., is much smaller than an entire Best Buy. According to Wikipedia, big box stores occupy 50,000 up to 200,000 square feet. +1
Scott Beamer7 months ago
+Christina Warren I'm sorry to hear that. +3
Michael McGimpsey7 months ago
That's a lot of glass. Google should open there own stores
Dan Leveille7 months ago
Awesome!
Paul Newport7 months ago
6000 square feet is around 25 yards by 25 yards. So it's large, but not huge.
Robert Scoble7 months ago
The square feet might be off, my source heard it from someone else. But he said that Google was planning something "dramatic." We'll see if this rumor has any truth to it next year. +7
P. Warren Brown7 months ago
6000 sq. ft. seems a bit off to me; that's about 25% of the average store's actual showroom.
Dan Leveille7 months ago
+Marc Wenning The $300 price point rumor came from one "researcher" and now everyone is quoting it. I honestly doubt it'll be that cheap.
Warren Whitlock7 months ago
a little more than "off".. that's more like "unreal".. a manufacturer renting space inside a store is not a breakthrough story. #overyhype  +1
P Brown7 months ago
Maybe it's enough room to do some virtual reality!!!!
Monica Wilkinson7 months ago
I think its SUPER interesting +1 for selling via Best Buy :P
Andrew Maxwell7 months ago
That would be cool. Maybe it could be their way of getting more "Google" stores out there in the market faster.
Heinz Seijas7 months ago
I think it will be more to sell nexus devices. I dont think this is really going to be about google glasses although im sure they will some there as well. I still think the main idea will be to sell nexus devices
Det Ansinn7 months ago
Average Best Buy store is 28,000 sq ft. I suspect an extra zero was added somewhere in the rumor mill.+1
Robert Scoble7 months ago
+Heinz Seijas Google Glass requires sit down space, though, for you to try them on and get trained on how they work. When I visited Google they had quite a large room to meet with groups of people at one time. It took me almost an hour to get fitted and trained and all that. So, gotta have space for you to sit down and feel comfortable.+2
Robert Scoble7 months ago
+Dan Leveille well, the cost of goods is somewhere around $150 to build a Google Glass, which is where the $300 price point is coming from. If this Best Buy rumor is right, that has quite a bit of overhead. So, a $400 or $500 price point is probably closer to the truth since retail always takes about 30% of the original sales price and Google wants to cover its R&D costs, too, I'm sure.+4
Fred Davis7 months ago
I am 100% positive that this will be a retail presence for all Google products... their answer, of sorts, to the over 400 Apple stores, which are among the world's highest grossing retail stores. Google has a HUGE lack or retail presence. This deal with BestBuy sure sounds like a (way weaker than Apple's) strategy for gaining a foothold in the retail marketplace.+6
Tim Wallace7 months ago
Best Buy has already created space for Samsung, Microsoft,and Apple. It makes since that there would be space for Google also. Best Buy is losing customers. They need to rent this space out to help pay lease and salaries. It also gets people into the store. Much like a convenience store selling gas. If you come in for the gas, you are more likely to buy something else. +5
Chris Lau7 months ago
Straight out of Samsung's strategy book
Bryce C7 months ago
My local Best Buy surprisingly has a section fir the HTC One which I was proud of. Before it had HTC with everyone else and Samsung had a special section.
Fred Davis7 months ago
+Tim Wallace You're right, Best Buy is desperate and they need the $... and Google can afford a lot, so I bet it's prime space that nudges the other store-in-a-stores back a few feet. As +Robert Scoble pointed out, you really do need a fitting for Glass, so a place to do that is very important... but so is a place to showcase everything Google in one place. Google can't open 400+ stores overnight to compete with Apple, so buying into Best Buy, with 1,000+ stores, gives Google a very fast way to have a very big retail footprint.+2
Heinz Seijas7 months ago
+Robert Scoble true. Shouldnt they do this at local glass stores as well. Like for example lenscrafters?
Tim Wallace7 months ago
I agree 100% +Fred Davis . I hope this isn't just a rumor. I have been wanting a +Google store for a long time. And I actually love Best Buy... mainly because of all the tech that is available. Their employee service is less than to be desired. They never have enough employees to help the customers that they have. Hopefully these employees will be trained by the "Store" in the store and we will get better service from them.+2
Robin Marks7 months ago
6,000' is way too large for this deployment. I ran a 5,000' retail space and it was massive. I suspect that 6,000' is about the size of BBs TV space which is substantial. The Apple dedicated space in BB is probably 400'.
I like the idea of having a place to demo Google products but I doubt it will be that large a space unless they plan to demo their self driving car.+1
Robert Pritchard7 months ago
+Robert Scoble I'm going to have to call my HR Department and see if this is covered in my vision plan. I'd like to see this in a progressive, scratch-resistant lens, with glare proofing. +1
Xuanlong Yixian7 months ago
The "store in a store" concept is not new. Apple has sections within Best Buy, Microsoft is getting ready to add some of their own, and when Ron Johnson took over at JC Penney, he pretty much bet the farm on that concept. I doubt it's JUST for Google Glass, but Google is running into the same problem as Microsoft to some extent. Google makes relatively little hardware themselves and has almost no retail business. But their hardware and retail partners are often letting them down. In the battle for hearts and minds of smartphone users, Apple's retail experience is widely considered to be much better than that of trying to purchase an Android device from a carrier or big box store. So Google is out to remedy that with staff and floorspace to show of the best Google has to offer. +2
Mark Still7 months ago
Did you mean 600?
Javier Pineda7 months ago
6,000? I'm sure Google can go over 9,000!!!
Fred Davis7 months ago
I'm not sure about the 6,000 square feet number, and neither is Robert... but I do think it will be something on that order which would definitely make it something "dramatic" as Robert said. They really do need a lot of square footage to include the various demo stations for phones, tablets, Chromecast, Google TV, etc, and for the Glass fitting stations. Let's face it, Best Buy is desperate to make their store-within-a-store thing work, and Google can afford as much square footage as they want! Sounds like a real win-win for both companies, so it makes a lot of sense that it is true, or very close to it.+3
David Carr7 months ago
6,000 square feet? Holy cow why would they need that much space?
Idiare Atimomo7 months ago
That's quite a large space to only sell Google Glass....maybe other consumer goods are in the pipeline...
Randy Hudson7 months ago
Many of my local Best Buys have just added a Windows 8 Store within their store. They also have an Apple Store within their store as well as a Samsung Store. Now they are going to add a 4th store within a store for Google. Oh and lets not forget the cell phone store(s) within a store.

Pretty soon there will be no space left for anything else and Best Buy will have mutated into a small mall full of other little stores.+2
Christina Warren7 months ago
+Scott Beamer well I was in high school and college if it makes a difference, but yes :)
Christina Warren7 months ago
+Randy Hudson which, without derailing the entire thread, is exactly the point. BBY has struggled for years, in large part because the biggest part of their stores used to be dedicated to media (music, games, software, movies) and that is now increasingly digital. Why not rent out your showroom space to let vendors offer a better in-store experience and potentially better support/selection. It's actually a return to the original big box model, the classic department store (Woolworth's, Macy's, Rich's, Penney's, etc). Even today that remains true for certain department stores. The Bloomingdales on 60th and Lex has a bunch of specific shop-within-a-shop sections. Ralph Lauren, Tory Burch, BCBG and Kate Spade all have boutiques within the second and third floors, just as an example.

Now back on topic, as +Robert Scoble said, for Glass, you need a one-on-one type of setup experience. When I went to a fitting, it was more akin to buying a car than buying a gadget. Apple does a great job of making the buying experience special -- this reminded me of that. Users need to be given instructions on setting stuff up, giving commands, etc.

Plus, I think luxury buying experience makes the price that much more acceptable. I've long maintained that if they can even get to a $1000 price point, this thing will fly off shelves.

Ironically I was talking to my ophthalmologist about Glass on Monday while doing my annual eye appointment and he's even more bullish than me! He's one of the top-rated eye surgeons in Atlanta (and really the entire Southeast - he pioneered a bunch of stuff with cataract surgeries and RK and then laser) and he can't wait for Glass. Given all the talk from armchairs about the resulting eye strain, I was interested in his take and be was really excited. Heck, I should probably push and see if I can get him in the Exploerer program! +3
Kara Cell7 months ago
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Randy Hudson7 months ago
Absolutely +Christina Warren, I love the idea of Best Buy becoming a showroom where I can get a fully immersive demonstration of my next gadget before I buy it on amazon.com sight unseen.
Stewart Gateley7 months ago
+Robert Scoble its funny that you think journalists, especially +TechCrunch research anything before they post. Truth or fiction, it brings people to the site to see ads and comment. If it turns out to be false, then they can do a second article. And when it is confirmed, they can do a second article.+1
Chris Cooling7 months ago
+Mike Boysen only the really tiny ones...my little Blockbuster was 5000 sq ft
Mike Boysen7 months ago
+Chris Cooling I've never seen one the size of a Home Depot. I think we're talking about +Best Buy and a 60x100 swath through the ones I've been too would be about half the store (ish)
Chris Cooling7 months ago
+Mike Boysen what part of the country are you in? Best Buys may vary greatly in size. the average Best Buy is 37,000 sq ft. my little Blockbuster store was 5,000
Randy Hudson7 months ago
In my local favorite Best Buy I'm going to estimate that their Samsung Store within a store is probably around 1000-1500 square feet. I'm guessing the Google Store would not be much larger than that.
Kelly Donaghe7 months ago
Best Buy is still in business?
Jeff Bond7 months ago
stock chart says ... true !!!+1
Jon Knutson7 months ago
+Robert Scoble I could see this being not just for Glass, but also for Chromebooks, Chromecast, Nexus devices, who knows, maybe even the rumored refresh of Google TV.
Chris Cooling7 months ago
Im betting it will promote all google products+2
Robert Scoble7 months ago
Google Glass PR let me know that my rumors are not correct. I guess we'll have to wait to see distribution plans.+4
Dirk Talamasca7 months ago
+Robert Scoble Will they need that space because they will be doing custom fittings in Best Buy or are they going to simply toss a blister-pack at buyers and wish them the best?
Edward Coles7 months ago
+Robert Scoble  you set off these little media firestorms. I love it. I would prefer to see Google stores selling Google with little "Androids" walking around to help you. 10% Opensource goodness (some board that runs android and teaches kids how to program), 10% Chromebooks, 10% Android @home and the rest Android devices et phones, tablets, watches, google TV, and Glass
Dathan Pyle6 months ago
This might be a test to see if a Google free standing store would work.