Robert Scoble
2 years agoPublic

Larry Page is on stage at TED right now. I'm at home watching.
He is not wearing Google Glass.

This fits the new narrative that's going on in my head: that Google doesn't know how to stick with a product. Remember Google Wave? It was a very interesting idea, but Google gave up on it very quickly. Why? Because it was controversial and the execution wasn't good.

Will Google stick with Glass? I'm starting to be very skeptical.

Look at Google+. Has Google fixed what bugs me about the service? No. The first week I asked for real, algorithmic noise filtering (like what Gmail now has). No mas.

I asked for Google+ to stop asking me to follow people who have never posted. No mas.

Google Glass is a deeply flawed product. I wrote about how in my "Glass is doomed" post:

But it is getting worse. I've had entrepreneurs tell me that Google is still arguing internally about whether Glass should be used for games and augmented reality (some on the team believe no). It is ridiculous that the team hasn't made a clean decision so everyone can move forward at this late date.

I've had investors tell me (even ones in the "Glass Collective") that they are not gonna invest until Google gives them real answers, like what the price will be for the general public and timelines for when things like APIs will be firmed up (they are not yet) and a real distribution method, er, a store, will be turned on.

It's amazing to me that for a product that was announced nearly two years ago that Google still hasn't signaled to the public what really is going on with this product.

Worse, I see a lack of CEO support of Glass as a very troubling statement. If Larry isn't wearing Glass, it doesn't mean good things for the project.

Can Google really finish something truly paradigm shifting? "We need revolutionary change," Page just said to Charlie Rose. Does he really believe that? Why not wear glass on stage then? Why not explain where Glass is going?

My skepticism is going up every day I don't hear answers. Google IO is now at the end of June. Will the answers come by then? I sure hope so.
I'm happy that Larry is talking about context and making our devices understand us better, that's the "Age of Context" that Shel Israel and I wrote about last year.

But the context is that Google Glass is a deeply flawed product and I expected a LOT more improvements by now, 11 months after I first got mine.

+Vic Gundotra  please tell me I'm reading the tea leaves wrong and tell us where Glass is going. 

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Derek Ross2 years ago
+Robert Scoble we use Google Wave everyday, in it's new form. Google+ and Google Docs seem very, very Wave-like to me.+88
Trent Archer2 years ago
Wondering if the big update to kit Kat will be the big jump forward glass needs. I still use mine every day especially at Disney last week for capturing the kids first time to the magic kingdom.+3
neon kamer2 years ago
Google's screwy patchwork of security is an amazingly arcane way to mess (read screw) with its users. I want to un-google myself but cannot because the company has insidiously engrained itself into life. Real and Virtual.+1
Gerald Hines2 years ago
Very confusing.  It seems, in the beginning, when others were skeptical, you proclaimed glass as the future of all things?

I always thought it was a neat toy, but a smart watch is a much better tool for that functionality.
Jake Weisz2 years ago
Could Larry Page maybe just not have a reason to wear it? Maybe he personally doesn't like wearing it? I mean, I don't know if everyone who speaks on a stage and works at Google is expected to wear Glass.

If you saw Sergey Brin on stage without Glass, I'd be more suspicious.
Greg Hines2 years ago
Do you ever read yourself robert go what the hell am I thinking?+6
Derek Ross2 years ago
+Robert Scoble to each their own. My wife wrote her book on a Chromebook using Google Docs ;)+22
Jake Weisz2 years ago
+Robert Scoble Okay, now that I find much more interesting. You should've led with that.+20
Chris Morales2 years ago
But +Robert Scoble Google is know for making reference devices and letting other companies use that reference to make a premium product.  I see all of Googles "things" as really tidy prototypes that give manufacturers and engineers the baseline for how to use Android.+8
+Jake Weisz You haven't seen the picture with Sergey Brin and robot-Edward Snowden?+2
Gerald Hines2 years ago
Yeah, but that's not the problem.  The problem is much more basic than that.  It's how many people are actually going to walk around with that thing on their face, no matter how potentially useful it is.

If I already wore glasses, and it was very discrete, I might see myself wearing Glass.  But I don't, and it's not, so I won't.  People who are really into technology, like yourself, might feel differently, but that's just not the general public.  Hell, I love tech, but I can't see myself wearing one.  And especially if it's going to be expensive technology.

There's much more to life than just what something CAN do.  I'm not sure that all the development in the world is going to get people on board, and maybe Google see that.
Stefan Hoth2 years ago
Sorry, +Robert Scoble but I have to disagree. You're not complaining he didn't arrive at Ted in a self driving car, he's not carrying a Chromebook, a Chromecast nor a Google TV - and no Cloud Platform at all! Does this mean he doesn't support these products? I'd say no.
And also I disagree on the G+ part. I use it daily and I meet and interact with a ton of interesting people. Granted, it could be better and sometimes I wish they'd increase the team working on G+ - but it's not as bad or unusable as you paint it.
Greg Knieriemen2 years ago
I have the same concern with Google's rumored news that Voice is headed for the trash can and SMS will end up in Hangouts... Which is still very clunky to use.+4
Robert King2 years ago
I think glass will take a while to get adopted by general public and I think google can take their time and be patient with its growth. It's a bit of a mind shift for the average joe whom I don't see rushing out to buy it straight away. This is irrespective of how revolutionary glass might be. It could take many years for people to get used to the idea of glass.+6
Chris Morales2 years ago
+Robert Scoble Agreed, but you have to agree that Google is set up as an experimental factory.  They pump out experiments...and some of them stick.  The ones that don't are called...experiments.  Glass has always been said to be in beta, or a developers kit if you will.  GMail is still in beta.... +6
Jake Weisz2 years ago
+Robert Scoble Regarding the store need, my issue is where the Play Store is in this. We've seen that the Play Music APK for Android, is actually the same APK that installs on Glass. Furthermore, the Play Store is more mature, and presents more information, as well as a robust commenting and reviewing system that the "Glass Boutique" doesn't offer. Then again, this is my continuing peeve with the Chrome App Store too. Why are they separating these various stores? (Google Docs just got like an add-on store that's more like Chrome App Store than anything else.)
Chris Lacy2 years ago
I agree with your concerns regarding Glass, but I don't think Page opting not to wear them on stage is of any real concern. If the device isn't going to help him give his talk, is there any reason for him to wear them?+8
Jake Weisz2 years ago
+Chris Morales Gmail has been out of beta for years.+1
Gerald Hines2 years ago
+Robert King Years, or not at all.  I've been eyeing that Pebble watch for quite some time, but it looks pretty geeky (even the Steel, IMO).  But I'll be buying the Moto 360 the day it releases.

Glass needs a lot more than just software development to make it mainstream.
Dominic Powell2 years ago
+Robert Scoble There is a very important thing coming for google right around the corner ( ~2 months away) Google I/O a lot of developments ... especially the coolest ones are being held off for the event. I wouldn't be surprised to see Google + next big update coincide with Google I/O along with another Glass update. They have been putting Glass on more and more faces... and yes Larry may not be using one in public, but he also isn't wearing an Android smartwatch at the moment is he? 

And ultimately putting Glass on an American Football player probably does 20x the public impact putting it on you or on Larry at TED can do. 

Just a thought.
Jeris JC Miller2 years ago
This is a challenging conversation on so many different levels +Robert Scoble  ... on the one hand we have a thriving #SeattleGlassExplorers Community and an #SGEIncubator actively creating medical & emotional intelligence applications which are truly revolutionary and which will save lives and help alleviate human suffering. With that said, we are stuck and unable to raise revenue or move forward in our development process. The #Glass is Doomed outlook is also very very challenging for those of us who are valiantly trying to maintain a positive outlook, buoy teams and raise money. What solutions can you offer those of us focused on developing #Glass4Good applications and elevating the Glass Culture Conversation?+14
Matt Bonneau2 years ago
Do you think that Apple is going to be able to outshine the Moto360 and upcoming Android Wearables?  I think Google may have come to some of the same conclusions about Glass as you did... 
Stefan Hoth2 years ago
+Robert Scoble I agree it's not ready yet after using and hacking with it. But I prefer Google's approach for doing R&D with the users and developers over the one like Apple et all who just push sth out with "Take it or leave it" approach +4
Siamak Masnavi2 years ago
+Robert Scoble I have a feeling that Google realizes that watches/bands (without a camera) will be much controversial and easier to sell products. Also, the fact that Apple is moving into this space soon almost guarantees that watches/bands will become mainstream devices.+1
Yea, officially done with your link-bait bullshit, Scoble. Enjoy the block list.+3
Stefan Hoth2 years ago
+Robert Scoble Do you have a source for the paid Glass people? Would be an interesting read.

And I hear this argument way too often "Google doesn't listen" but I while I wish they'd be more transparent I see a lot of reactions to certain pain points. But this always a very subjective view. If they don't fix "my" problem(s) they don't listen. ;-)
Matt Uebel2 years ago
Maybe Glass doesn't see "Consumers" for years from now... that is fine as long as Google keeps taking care of the Explorers. 

As someone who just bought-in over the weekend, I hope that this is the case.
Ananya Gupta2 years ago
+Derek Ross I agree in that Google Docs is very Wavy but GMail's natural evolution should have been to Wave. Wave was incredible. Google just fucked it up by:

1. Not supporting it after release
2. Requiring a completely separate world to use it disconnected from GMail and GTalk
3. Keeping it private instead of 'Turning it On' for power users of Gmail so that it would switch over.

+Robert Scoble About Google+ , the team hasn't even opened up any of the meaningful APIs after 2 years of Google Photos. The Android app is still unreliable.

1. It should upload pictures and posts in the background via a notification item (like Facebook or Drive).
2. It should not create a video post and notification until the video has been completely uploaded and processed (this one really annoys me, those morons).
3. The Android app needs better integration of Locations with Google Maps for a meaningful existence.
Mathieu Méa2 years ago
It's not news that Sergey Brin is more a fan of Glass than Larry Page.+1
Jake Weisz2 years ago
+Robert Scoble I love when people get dramatic about uncircling someone. ;)+4
+Robert Scoble Everything you post is ridiculous, sensationalist nonsense, Scoble. Don't delude yourself into thinking you're not a total hack.+2
+Robert Scoble I couldn't give less of a shit if you interviewed the queen of England, that doesn't make you any less of a self-contradictory, melodramatic tool.

I have a perfect idea what you do; Fool people into thinking you know what you're talking about. Why the majority of people haven't yet caught on to the fact that you speak out of your ass nine times out of ten is completely beyond me.

Whether or not Google employees are wearing Glass during their presentations has no baring or effect on how well they will do in the consumer market. Stop attempting to draw conclusions based on half-cocked, ill-informed conjecture. You're not nearly intelligent enough to pull it off.

Get a grip, gramps. You are to technology as Mitt Romney is to foreign relations; You should really just stop talking.
Mathieu Méa2 years ago
+Robert Scoble that doesn't mean Glass is doomed, it's always been a long term project.
Even if the product itself was flawless, it would take years before society accept them (that's why the Explorer program exists).
Android Wear definitely used the experience from Glass to create a better platform and Android Wear devices will be available to the public this summer.
Mark Lastiwka2 years ago
I figured he wasn't wearing it so he wouldn't rub it in all of our Canadian faces how we can't get it lol
Jake Weisz2 years ago
+Jamie Munro Religious devotion is indeed the primary currency Google banks on for it's products now. I've seen a very large behavioral shift at Google since Larry Page took over in 2011, and it's not a good one.+3
Piotr Majewski2 years ago
Yes it's already obsolete hardware... I agree it's doomed at this stage without serious push and improvements
Meng Jue2 years ago
Well, they stick with Chromebooks and I didn't see Larry page use Chromebooks. They don't need immediate success with glass, they can test the market with less ambitious wearable like smartwatch first +1
Mathieu Méa2 years ago
+Jamie Munro when you can publicly comment on any other big tech company public profile posts, let us know
(well, you can comment on Mark Zuckerberg posts on his Facebook profile but since there are no limit on the number of comments, your comment will be drawn in the middle of ten of thousands of other comments).
Vic doesn't want you to use the popularity of his G+ profile to vehicule ideas he doesn't agree with (or strongly disagree with).
Jeris JC Miller2 years ago
+Robert Scoble I agree with your answers. We need "skin in the game from google" ... that is a direct quote from a person I approached to raise funds for the #sgeincubator  ... it's 1st gen tech and a paradigm shift ... it is my sincere hope Google digs in and commits to improving the product and supporting the developers.  Many of us stepped off a cliff with #Glass . I did and many in the #SGEIncubator  did [Augmedix is not the only one on a limb] What I can say is our heart is in the right place ... this tool can be very useful for many people and like you Robert we see the potential of what this tech can become! In this moment I am keeping my eye on the prize.  I appreciate you fighting the good fight for all of us. Let's focus on what #Glass needs to become viable.+8
Matt Keithley2 years ago
patiently awaiting vic's response...
Jake Weisz2 years ago
+Mathieu Méa The issue to me, is disapproving of a Google decision is no longer cause for discussion. It is now simply wrong. A Google Search design change rolled out last week, and the original post announcing it was locked because of how many different people were all saying the same thing: That it was harder to use, and looked worse. The author reiterated that Google was "confident" in it's decision, and left it at that.

Google is "confident" in every decision it makes. Everyone else is wrong.
Brian Sullivan2 years ago
Google Glass was never going to be a "wear it all the time everywhere" product that was going to cause a mass paradigm change -- at least not in the short run.

It was always destined to be an important niche product. I think Google has quite correctly recognized that they shouldn't succumb to their self generated hype echo chamber.
Jake Weisz2 years ago
+Brian Sullivan Google shows no signs of stopping succumbing to their self-generated hype echo chamber. Very few Google employees seem to live outside of it. Those that can don't dare speak of it.+1
Stew McCall2 years ago
+Robert Scoble I think that there may have been warnings, starting with Google Posting about 'Glass Etiquette' implying that they are far more aware and maybe have received complaints about people abusing the use of glass and wanted to have something that educates the glass users.

Then of course,  Google is really like a child,  their projects are just like playthings and some they tire of really fast and discard and maybe their interest in Google Glass is waning and it is hard to justify continuing a project where the product is relatively expensive.  If they cannot find a way of increasing the user base to the point where it become generally acceptable to the public and maybe they cannot find a way of lowering the price of the product where it would appeal to the masses.  

I personally cannot find a reason or need that would compel me to want Google Glass and I am sure that I am not the only one.  It doesn't worry me though about someone else wearing them near me though again, until such products are an every day product in the same way as bluetooth earpieces then there will always be those that are uncomfortable about such products.

I hope they don't doom the Google Glass to the shelves to gather dust but it may well be on it's way on the other hand it may well find itself ending up in the law enforcement and military markets as additional collection of evidentiary video.
Tad Donaghe2 years ago
I think maybe Google pulled a Virtual Reality on their Augmented Reality hardware. Remember how overhyped VR was back in the 90s and how poor all of the various implementations turned out to be? Google just jumped the gun a few years too early.
Clifford M2 years ago
+Robert Scoble

I personally like "SOME" of your posts last year BUT the beginning of 2014, "NOTHING".

I have twitter, facebook, Google+ and even MySpace & Friendster is still there...


I do love +Google+ to use than any of them from my Mac, Pixel, iOS devices, Android tablets & smartphones & windows based computers.

If I were you and if you feel that +Google+ doesn't "FOLLOW" all what you wants, just ditch the service.

Also, about the Glass and other "PROJECTS" of Google, I know that they "NEVER" announced those products to be launch in the regular markets, as it was just their futuristic hobby, especially by Google X that led by +Sergey Brin.

I castigate +Google in many of their projects BUT to shout to the world that it's like, "ONLY YOU" thinking about those things is absurd...

Those concerns of yours are basically "KNOWN" by Googlers but it's NOT easy to just implement it.

"There's TONS/LOTS of engineers from Google and even outside of their company giving suggestions BUT not all of them are easy to be use and put in the service without checking/testing other variables..."

If you like it your "WAY", it doesn't mean we love it too...

My own takes for this, just ditch ALL GOOGLE services and products if you don't like it and if they don't follow what you "LIKE"...

Have a great day
Lateef Alabi-Oki2 years ago
Is your book ever coming to the Play Store?

Also I don't see any reasoned argument as to why you claim Google Glass is flawed. What are the flaws? Constructively, what do you think are the solutions to the flaws?

If Google wants to take their sweet time to get things right, why is that bad?

Google just announced Android Wear with a public SDK. Isn't that a firm statement that Google is seriously committed to wearables?

I don't mind if it takes them another 5 years to get wearables right. As long as they get it right.

The new Android Wear initiative signals to me that they're on the right track.
Rick Williams2 years ago
+Robert Scoble the fact that +Sergey Brin is not wearing them at TED has me most worried. I got a pair about a week ago, knowing I had 30 days to make my decision. Its getting pretty hard to talk myself into keeping them. Hell the only thing I use them for is getting quick shots of my son. Which I have got lots a good ones. +1
Meng Jue2 years ago
You pay 1500 to be a Guinea pig, not for a real product. If it's not flawed, it'd be in the market by now +2
Steve Wardell2 years ago
I hope they do a full 'come to Jesus' session for Glass at IO this year, but I think at this point, given its age, it will be either 'the world is not ready for Glass', 'the tech is not ready for Glass' or 'so, here it is, Glass 2.0'. IMO there is no way to avoid the current generation being junked before the end of the year and if they say nothing/do nothing it wont take take until the end of the year. 

Google needs to hire some PR, they had a great Glass reveal, a seriously cool attention grabber, some great leading edge innovation, then they left it to rot on the vine.
Gary McCrorey2 years ago
Wearable technology will only take off once it replaces your phone, not simply augment it. Who wants to carry around more stuff? Another device to lose/break/charge? No thanks.

That being said, I do agree that it is terribly dissapointing when Google's support of a potentially great product wains. I'd prefer that they continue development until it becomes what it needs to be. In this case, a wearable phone that doesn't suck.
Mathieu Méa2 years ago
+Jake Weisz Google can't wait for everyone to agree on a change (even internally) before doing it.
You're free to share your disagreement with the rest of the world on your G+ profile.
A lot of UX testing is done before any design change so the opinion of 1 user won't probably change anything but if most users don't like the design change and start using the product less (and click on ads less often), you can trust Google to revert the design change quickly.
Tobias Kopietz2 years ago
nothing beats arguing on the internet+2
Speculation: Google stands to make more money by selling the technology to offhand manufacturers than the general public? Why waste resources fixing software bugs? Maybe Google is being lobbied by the 1%?+1
Matt Brenton2 years ago
+Robert Scoble Larry is thinking much bigger things then Glass and Wave. It's awesome to see a huge corporation like Google take risks when it comes to innovation. Imagine explaining to your shareholders that you actually spend their money on moon shots/long shots that may never come to market. Sure, many of the futuristic ideas Google (mainly X Labs) invents/designs will fail, but at least they're attempting them.

What else is great, is that they normally include the public to help out with testing a new product rather than keep it quiet and release a product they assume is best for the consumer. Who cares if 90 of 100 new ideas fail? That's how you innovate. Sure, I would agree they don't always have a clear vision for most of the products and services they create but that's what separates them from the rest of the pack.

Take the Google automated car for example. Google was the first to really prove we have the technology to make automated cars a reality but I doubt they actually had a solid plan to profit from it. As long as they keep showing the world that we as humans have the ability to do anything we put our minds to, I will support them.

I don't see why you are so hung up on Glass anyway. 5-10 years from now, the tech world will be working on implants. Glass is just another product that Google introduced to the world and now it's up to "the tech community" to improve on it. You're not thinking big enough. That's why 2 young billionaires are where they are, and we're all where we are.
Don Schindler2 years ago
Maybe they are slowing it down because the public just isn't ready for this type of technology. I hardly wear my Google Glass because I'm not in a tech sector and the only people that really think it's cool are college kids and younger.  Look at how bad android was when it came out and now Apple is chasing its tech.  Or maybe I'm wrong and they are dumping it like they did wave (that product sucked).
Jake Weisz2 years ago
+Mathieu Méa The issue is that when you post an announcement, and everyone who doesn't work at Google tells you you made a mistake, your answer should not be that you're "confident" you made the right choice.

You should, at least, indicate you give a crud about their feedback.
+Robert Scoble mine still auto uploads photos. sometimes even a few at a time when not plugged in. the large batch upload still is when charging on wifi.+1
Jake Weisz2 years ago
+Robert Scoble Trust me, I would be singing from the mountaintops if Glass would STOP auto-uploading. It is by far the largest fault with the device that there's no off-switch for "send my personal photos to Google".
Niklas Schnelle2 years ago
As a software engineer I feel like the argument about the store really is secondary, I'd guess that as it's based on Android integration with the Play Store will be very easy if the glass team didn't screw the app model up completely.
Especially if that part of opening up the store for non smartphone devices happens with the watch too.

That said a store really only works for products that are out there. Missing a store is far from deeply flawed and should be fixable in a matter of weeks. However the CEOs not wearing glass is an interesting point and I think you are right in that Google made a business decision in delaying glass in favor of the watch which is both a stepping stone for acceptance of glass and orders of magnitude less controversial. In a way I'd say it will pave it's way even if it takes another two years for Google to be confident in riding out the controversy and confident about the hardware e.g. battery life.
Lateef Alabi-Oki2 years ago
+Robert Scoble Is the sample size of your survey statistically significant?

Most authors these days have their books available on the major online stores, iTunes, Amazon and Play Books.

It's odd in this day and age that an author marginalizes significant segments of the market.

If you had an exclusive deal with Amazon, then I understand. Otherwise, it's odd. Anyway, I was looking forward to reading your book.
Niklas Schnelle2 years ago
Don't trust the car maker managers, especially not the German ones. Yes cars won't come to US cities for another decade and they will not come to German cities for another half a century, Germans are extremely unreasonable when it comes to cars as you will soon see when Germany stays the only European country with next to no Tesla sales.
However autonomous cars will come to the streets of war zones and they will prove themselves ferrying cargo to military camps day and night no matter whether there are mines or enemy fire and before you know they will be driving taxis.
Meng Jue2 years ago
+Robert Scoble well product development isn't a straight forward process, sometimes it gets worse before it gets better. I think Google is seeing glass as part of Android wear, Larry page probably just doesn't want to be seen as favouring Google own product +2
+Robert Scoble Slash still should be able to do a video call from Glass on stage and then use some of the tricks folks used on here to livestream before HOA became a thing. if folks could find a way to get beyond the 10 way limit two years ago on GPlus I am sure Slash and his team can figure out a way to take the feed from Glass (maybe even just use screen cast) to a wider audience. 
Niklas Schnelle2 years ago
+Robert Scoble  it's not that a store is simple but it's simple to expand a store that works for phones and watches to work for glass. The hold up is that a store means legal commitment, you can't take away a store from app developers who are selling products with it, the legal battles that would ensue are a nightmare.  Therefore they really can't launch a store without a product that is freely available. When the product fails on the open market no one can sue but as long as they want to control who gets to use glass they would be in a lot of legal trouble for slashing app developers sales etc.
Nikolaj Berntsen2 years ago
+Robert Scoble just having used Glass 2 months I haven't reached your level of disappointment and I think $1500 for the wearable experience frontier makes it work for me.

That being said, I have made my own conclusions, Google Glass is not ready (and the world is not ready) for mainstream, I have coined it a "techno piercing", it's a rather in your face thing that appeals to a certain sub culture. But they love it. Eventually it may be main stream, but it is more likely that other wearable devices (possibly a whole slew of different ones) will take the mainstream.

Google Glass hardware is ready, however, for verticals at this stage (give or take a few minor glitches that can be fixed before selling to any one). The issue right now is mainly the complexity of the user experience. For verticals I believe that a few use cases will be implemented by apps that take over the user interface and thereby introduce a compelling simple to use wearable technology that saves time and thus is worth buying. I base this on my experience and talking with people from the construction vertical which is the focus of the startup I am in now (no plug, you can find it if you want ;).

The price? Will come down, it makes no sense that it costs so much, but it has served as a nice filter to only get the really interested people onboard, and once onboard they care, like you do, thereby providing valuable feedback.

I appreciate your crusade to make Google "fix" glass and I am a little disappointed by Google, that they do not interact with your thread. Perhaps it should have been (cross) posted to Google Glass communities where +Google Glass seems quite responsive.

For me, as a techie, I think the two most desirable features for the public release would be 1) sim card in Glass (so I can get rid of my phone, on some days, using a tablet at home and at work instead) and 2) some kind of ring replacement for the touch panel which is a bit awkward to use in public and for long times.
Jake Steinerman2 years ago
I've heard the same thing for potential investors in +DriveSafe, including the Collective. Others are surprised that Google isn't investing in Glass startups. Its hard to create a solid ecosystem for Glass if there aren't the funds to do so.
Also, keeping us Glass Explorers in the dark has been a nightmare.
And now with things like the Moto 360 on the way, we're starting to question the purpose of Glass. Granted, it can do many things that a watch will never be able to do (AR, eye control, head-based sensors, etc)
Bob Gamble2 years ago
The voice recognition is a big one for me.  It rarely understands what I'm really saying.  Also, around here at least, I can't hardly say hello to a female without them thinking I'm trying to hit on them.  So I don't see how I'd ever get away with wearing those and others knowing it.

There are a lot of issues with these that I can see.  I'm sure they could be useful in a lot of situations.  But not around the public so much because it just makes you look strange.  If everyone were wearing them, it would be different.

Pretty cool concept, not ready for masses yet in my opinion.
Jake Steinerman2 years ago
+Robert Scoble They also had giant battery packs strapped to themselves. Also, jumping out of a blimp isn't something 99.9999% of people do every day. I sit behind a desk most of the time, and can't think of a use for Glass. When I'm out and about, or on the slopes, that's a different story.
Christopher Dale2 years ago
Guys, IMHO i think you're reading the "what are they (not) wearing?" stuff too seriously. I work on the Glass team and there are times i wear Glass (on the go) and times i don't (in the shower) and i'm ok w/that.+9
Randy Hudson2 years ago
I have to go with the thinking that Google is really an R&D company. They develop a lot of technology, but rarely do they actually pursue the role of manufacturer.

Apple doesn't really manufacture their products themselves, they have them made for them. But they're still sold as Apple products. This doesn't really seem to be the Google way. I think they want other companies to jump in and do that. Perhaps they just haven't found anyone interested so the product is dying.

If the only Android devices in the marketplace were the Nexus products,
Android would probably have died by now, or at the very least hold only a small slice of the market. Google may be the primary developer of the Android Eco-system, but without companies like Samsung and HTC Android would be nothing.

Of course Google will need to get most of the kinks worked out before a Samsung is going to jump on board.
Matt Brenton2 years ago
+Robert Scoble Forget the car Robert. I'm not sure I communicated my comment clearly. It's good to see ANY company take chances if the main goal is to raise the standard of living for all of humanity rather than focus on profits first. Google offers so many services (maybe to many) that it should be expected to see so many fail. That's where I think it's your expectations of what Glass should be that upsets you. The reality is that Glass is what it is right now and it may never improve. But you shouldn't throw a blanket over the entire company with statements like "Google seems to not finish much and that's becoming a trend". I don't expect a 'finish' or end goal with any product or service. We need to keep sharing our knowledge and ideas and improve on what we have.
Yuval Drori2 years ago
+Robert Scoble, I am wearing glasses (regular ones) for years. I love running while listening to audiobooks - I would love to use the prescription glasses on a daily basis. I would settle for the earphones + notifications + camera while running without having to pull the phone out. I am curious if the battery will last 3.5 hours running while streaming music and taking the occasional photo.+1
Lateef Alabi-Oki2 years ago
+Robert Scoble Android Wear is Google's new Android OS for wearables. Google Glass is likely going to be ported to it. The new Google watches announced yesterday run on Android Wear and are clearly inspired by the work done on Google Glass. I maintain that Google is committed to wearables and you're just impatient. 😁
Jacob Serrano2 years ago
I think that Google understands that people have their own unique taste and preferences. Glass isn't for everyone. I also think that Google doesn't expect people who use Glass to use them all of the time. For example, if there are times that you will not use Glass at all because it won't help or may interfere what what you're doing, it only makes sense to turn it off and take it off. There are times when I want to give a non-verbal message to my audience that they have my full undivided attention and that they are the most important person(s) to me for that time we share. An effective way to demonstrate that is to turn off the phone, look away from the screen, or, generally, disable any distractions.

BTW, I doubt that the CEOs of all the major athletic shoe companies wear their companies sneakers 24/7 to all events, including formal ones. I'm sure that a few "rebels" do, but not generally.
Gerald Hines2 years ago
Paying $1500 for a product that didn't do what you wanted it to do when you bought it, and expecting that it would at some future date, was your first problem....

You should be just as mad at yourself.  It was a toy, it's still a toy.
Paul Egan2 years ago
Interesting read, including the comments. +Robert Scoble you often refer to glass as a flawed product, and all of the hard- and software features to be improved. But to me the more interesting point you touched on was the politics and in-fighting going on behind the scenes in google.

Would it be fair to argue that at least some of Glass' flaws are symptomatic of weak, factional management without a solid plan?

I wonder if you see any similarities with the gargantuan google of today and Microsoft when it was top of the tech world? Do you have any anecdotes you could share?
Rick Williams2 years ago
+Yuval Drori the problem with that is your plan won't work very well.  It is one of my major gripes with glass.  Even with the stereo earbuds, it can not acts as a set of bluetooth earbuds for your phone.  Therefore you are limited to the applications for audio that are on Glass.  Which is.... Play Music.  No podcasts or any other content.  
Gerald Hines2 years ago
+Paul Egan that's the issue I have with Google.  All of their products seem to be going to crap.  It's seems in the midst of their Google+ double-down a lot of good functionality is getting lost.

They come out with a new version of Maps, that's prettier, but way less functional in day-to-day use.  And then they eliminate Picasa to replace it with Photos, and now there's no way to upload a photo into a specific album.

That's the one thing I do agree with Robert about here; you just don't know if anybody is working on fixing anything.  Seemed like they actually used to listen to users back in the day.

I think if I actually had to pay for their products at this point, I'd be shopping elsewhere.  I guess you get what you pay for.
Jake Weisz2 years ago
+Gerald Hines Google does not care about functionality. They care about vacuuming up your data. That's about it.
+Robert Scoble, I want to start by thanking +todd l lebeauc for pointing out your post. Although I don't have you in a "subscription" circle, I have you in several circles and I'm frustrated that I never see your content in my stream.

That aside, I wrote a post this morning about why I think Moto 360 will kill Google Glass, and it's just like you said, all about context. I wish I would have used that theme when I wrote the post. I'd love for you to give it a read and let me know what you think.
Jolon Faichney2 years ago
I wonder whether Google are downplaying Glass because of the very public 'creepy' reputation it was getting?

May not be worth pushing it until they really know what it will be used for in a non-creepy way.

The watch seems far less creepy and has similar tech.

Not worth risking the success of its other products because of the reputation of one immature product.
Arvind Gautam2 years ago
+Robert Scoble I completely agree about Glass. Infact I completely agree about all other pieces as well. I thought Google+ would've progressed far beyond what it started from at the pace it was improving...but it hasn't really gone much beyond formatting and layout. I read +Vic Gundotra 's response to your queries about what he plans to do with Contacts when he said they have big plans for them - and - nothing! Google's assertion that they're doing great things with Google Voice - and - nothing! Have they developed ADHD?+2
Jake Weisz2 years ago
+Peter G McDermott Something that requires I touch it will never obsolesce the device I wear while driving.
+Jake Weisz I agree, +Google Glass is great for driving.
Gerald Hines2 years ago
+Jake Weisz They used to.  I've always been cool with giving them my data because it actually was used to provide me with better service.  But when I look at things like Google Now, which sucks in all my info and then only marginally works, I get a little frustrated.+2
+Robert Scoble Yes, we're all gagging for Kitkat and IO to come through. (we've streamed through Glass at +Droiders for pro catwalk shows, political parties, surgeries and charity auctions all with big names. Sure, It's not point and click easy to setup, but it's achievable and YouTube streamable.)

the thing is as you know, from the very first word in this post, POV video isn't really what Thad Starner had in mind or what the hardware is cut out to do.

Recieving the big data in context over Glass as that ultra incarnation of a Google Now like experience - but for brands, that you have a relationship with already, via their Glassware - is a significant leap of development bringing big data and UX together whilst wearables may seem interesting to us, it's not highest on agenda of everyone. I look elsewhere and regard the adoption of Universal Analytics (allowing visitor targeting and not visit targeting) and advanced PPC history, and richer data used by brands which allows them to thereafter better serve contextual utility to Glass users, then we're talking about a trio of mutual utility for consumers, Google and companies , but that's some way off.

Heck even the internationalisation of Glass is under the carpet at the moment and that's a mammoth challenge.


So your doomed verdict, at least for 2014, - the first half of year - remains plausible. Alas were still in tinker time phase. 
Gerald Hines2 years ago
For the first time in my life, the idea of getting an iDevice has seriously crossed my mind.  Don't blow it, +Vic Gundotra.  I want to remain a fanboy.
Jake Weisz2 years ago
+Gerald Hines They used to, for sure. Gmail, when introduced, was legendary because of the amount of power it gave users. That model has been slowly carted away as Google has become mainstream. The biggest change was Larry Page taking over CEO in 2011. Google Labs was thrown out, products people loved started getting shut down, the new cards/Now thing was in. Google started reworking all their products from working on open platforms to being closed platforms they wanted everyone to build on top of like Drive and Google+.+1
Tim Moore2 years ago
Right on +Robert Scoble - +Sergey Brin, we hope answers are coming before IO, the glass natives are growing restless+1
Gerald Hines2 years ago
+Robert Scoble I agree with you on that point as well.  I am absolutely convinced that nobody at Google actually uses their Photos app.  If they did, they would have fixed the ability to upload to albums from mobile a long time ago.  Same with Maps and not being able to Search Nearby anymore.+2
+Robert Scoble 
All the problems you describe are valid points, but I think you are reading too much into this. 

I have never seen +Larry Page wear Glass ever - and I think as a CEO he probably doesn't want to point to much attention to just one (very controversial) product.
It's much more interesting that +Sergey Brin wasn't wearing them, but maybe he is testing a smartwatch these days. Who knows?

+Google Glass  is posting videos taken with the device on a regular basis nowadays, and +Amanda Rosenberg posted pictures of the new frames a while ago. So it is going in a direction.
At the end, you may still be right and say "I told you so" - but at the moment I see no real evidence that this boat is sinking. (Although it could move a bit faster.)

Oh, and +Vic Gundotra has nothing to do with Glass, actually - his responsibility is Google+.
Ryan R2 years ago
+Robert Scoble "Regarding melodrama. I want the device I paid $1,500 to fucking work. It does NOT work at nearly any level right now. It's deeply flawed."

You still sound a bit like an entitled child here. You knew it was essentially alpha-level tech when you decided to pay $1500 (as did I).


"Giving a promise that we could use this for full video streaming. The product has NOT improved, and, even, has gotten worse since I first got mine (it used to automatically upload photos, for instance, but that feature was turned off)."

Why do you think they've turned off full video streaming and auto-uploads when the device isn't plugged in? Think about it for just a moment, it's rather obvious -- it's about battery life. They're trying to find the right balance. They're clearly still iterating here.


"I keep hoping that they ship a major new update that fixes all my issues and makes this product usable."

Perhaps you missed it, but in the official Glass community forum, a Google employee confirmed they are working on a massive update that will port the Glass firmware to KitKat (Android 4.4). That's why the monthly XE updates stopped in 2014. 

Glass is a very impressive feat of technology, and they are clearly still working on it. If they were pulling back on it, they wouldn't be putting the work into porting it to KitKat.


TL;DR: I think you're being impatient. Yes, it's been a couple of years, but this isn't easy engineering. Give it some time. Pointless demands and hyperbolic statements about how it's "doomed" aren't really helpful.
David Cieszynski2 years ago
+Robert Scoblethe way I see it Google Glass is one of many products under the Google umbrella, which at this moment in time doesn't look like it will have the market penetration they initially thought. I don't think it will get canned but may be put on the back burner to give other products chance to grow. I personally want a better UI for hangouts and for the Loon project to become a major success story.
Doug Hawkes2 years ago
Maybe he is demonstrating when Glass is not to be used. They are not glued to your face for a reason. He isn't going to need updates while giving a TED talk.+3
+Robert Scoble how often do you wear Glass now?
Ryan R2 years ago
+Robert Scoble A lack of transparency from Google doesn't support your conclusion that Glass "is a project that has gone into hiding". That's a ridiculous argument to be making anyway.

I find it hard to put much trust in a handful of unnamed sources telling you things off the record. Google has 50,000 employees -- they say a lot of things. Let's look at the facts:

- Google is putting substantial effort into porting the firmware to the latest version of Android.

- Google has continued to rapidly expand the Glass Explorers program and add additional users.

- Despite your claims to the contrary, I've seen iterations and improvements to Glass over the past couple of months.

If the project has gone into hiding, someone forgot to tell the Google Glass team!
David Horvath2 years ago
If you happen to get on the mic again please ask him to tell the millions of people I have never met to stop texting me on hang outs...
Jeff Bolton2 years ago
+Robert Scoble Do you realize that Google released a Glass Development Kit just mid-November of 2013?  That seems like a signal to devs to me!+2
David Horvath2 years ago
+Robert Scoble now that you can instruct your phone to " ok google, take a picture", do you feel many of glasses functions were shifted over the other products? The Android watch seems like a glass replacement?
Tony Patino2 years ago
+michael interbartolo in regards to your thought that KitKat would be a tipping point for getting Glass into shape for the future I am certain the answer is no.

As a developer, I suspect that the reason Glass is stuck on Ice Cream Sandwich is because Google broke their Speech Recognizer in Jellybean, and made it far less usable for developers. It's remained broken since. A device like glass needs strong speech recognition, and if making it work properly hasn't been a priority for a full two OS versions, I think it's far off their radar.
Ryan R2 years ago
+Robert Scoble I didn't mean to suggest you are uninformed. I don't think you are. I just don't think you've made a compelling argument here, and you seem to be doubling-down on your position despite people offering plenty of facts that contradict it.

Having said that, if you're going to play the "I have sources" card, let's see your hand. All you're saying is you've talked to a lot of technical people about Glass. So what? Everyone has an opinion. Your sources are only interesting if they actually know what Google's plans are, and I don't think they do.

Also, why would you expect Google to talk about the nitty gritty plans for Glass with investors? Have you listened to a quarterly earnings call? Google doesn't work that way; they never have.

Google is talking to developers by the way, so that point is also moot.
Sean Epperson2 years ago
Good conversation. Thanks for sharing. Right now Glass is too expensive for my pocketbook, but I am glad to see some of the same features appearing in Google Now, and wearables. Maybe Glass will never make it mainstream.+1
Tim Moore2 years ago
+Robert Scoble are you still talking with the guy in 300 circles? :)
Tim Moore2 years ago
The Ryan guy... +1
+Robert Scoble I'm jealous, would have loved to be there. Haven't talked to you in a while. How have you been?
Julio Goncalves2 years ago
+Timothy O'Neil-Dunne Take a look at what Microsoft is doing... there is some interesting features popping up. It is slow but seem to be getting some good reviews. BTW - I am also Google-"dependent" in several areas.+1
Ted Juch2 years ago
+Robert Scoble just curious but what types of features are you missing in Docs that you'd like to see?
+Robert Scoble That's great news. Unfortunately for me I've been over eating lately due to the end of what I thought was a great relationship. In other news I've started selling my photos online. It's starting extremely slow but so far enough to break even. I can't afford a slump, no backup funds and even my mom causally mentioned not to expect any help from her. So much to learn about markups, wholesale vs retail, book keeping, not to mention re-editing every photo I put up for sale. I've got an Etsy store at the moment but will be making my SmugMug account public in the next few days/weeks.

This is my Etsy: 
Paul Kirsch2 years ago
It's been nearly 2 years since the famous skydiving presentation. Google has dragged their feet on this product for so long that any enthusiasm the public had has long died away!
We Canadians weren't even deemed worthy enough to be able to pay the $1500 to try the things out... At this point, I for one don't care anymore!!
May be just may be Google is yet to crack certain tech problems with Glass to make it a product for the masses. And hence their uncertainty in a clear roadmap for Glass for the public.

As for Larry not wearing Glass and hence Google seemingly washing away Glass off its own plate, isn't it jumping to conclusion too fast?
Alex Schleber2 years ago
+Ryan R re:"I think you're being impatient. Yes, it's been a couple of years, but this isn't easy engineering. Give it some time." --- this is what happened with Microsoft under Ballmer... more recently with Apple without Jobs, and now it appears to be happening with Google.

Too much bulk, complexity, Big Corp BS... and everything is starting to move like molasses. Fiefdoms/infighting, capricious/erratic moves, etc.

(MotoGoogle anyone...? Did you see the backstory about Page refusing to do more for the Moto X as "superphone"? -> )
Aung Thiha2 years ago
Even Brin stopped wearing Glass. I have doubt on Google's AR plan since very long time. Glass's technical lead Professor Thad Starner's vision on AR is much different from others. For him, it is more of a contextual Head-up information display rather than a real augmented reality. That's a shame, company like Google should have gone for a real AR (like Meta glass) , which represents a new paradigm in computing in which real and virtual worlds mesh together, people routinely and naturally interact with virtual objects, virtual pets and companions ,and where even the desktop and phone could be virtualized on a glass. Sadly, that technology is still far away , Meta glass is not truly portable like Google's.+1
Jason Wallace2 years ago
You could have said the same thing about Gmail and G+... remember how long both of those were in beta? It just so happens that they haven't killed those yet. Whatever the cause, it makes Google seem erratic.

Personally, I'm not surprised. Google strikes me as a collection of Linux geeks who see every project as never fully complete -- everything is constantly in "beta". From a hobbyist standpoint, that's genius! From a business standpoint, it's unpredictable and reckless.

Then again, Google is just ad ad company, right? What the hell are they doing selling glasses? or offering an email service? or creating a mobile phone OS?
Tom Ford2 years ago
Eyewear won't even see it...
Nick Foster2 years ago
I think this is symptomatic of Googles "eternal beta" approach to all their products.  It allows them to be agile and experimental, but at the same time most things are forever unfinished and frustrating for the end users.+1
Derek Hohls2 years ago
+Nick Foster I don't think their strategy is to deliberately not finish and frustrate people.   Its more that they are a product of their own industry where things change incredibly quickly and not everything ends up where you hope or expect.  Products like Gmail, Android and Chrome do work and are supported and developed further.  Others like Wave simply, er, sink.  The jury seems to be out right now on Glass.  "Watch this space"...+2
Adam Adamou2 years ago
I think that you're right on this one. Glass is now seen as more of a niche device than a brief consumer product and it seems that Google is rethinking it's strategy.
Frank Brunke2 years ago
Wow, really? You are reading too many news blogs and trying to make something out of nothing here Robert.

I feel the majority of us agree that GW was a product few could understand. Regardless of how great the product was, once the general public got a hold of it, the faith fell fast. It is a sad fact, but public opinion has more power than facts. 

Google Glass is available to the public in stores? Can I go to the local box store to pick up the product? Demanding to see the road map or see improvements now? I feel it is a safe thing to say, most forward thinking companies will learn from products like Glass to make the next product even better. 

Do not fall into the same thing we hear all the time, complaints about this and that. Stand behind a product / idea and focus on moving forward as one. 
Bob Nielsen2 years ago
+Jake Weisz Seen Sergey was walking around SXSW without glass.  Pic was on G+ with him and Snowdon.  That did get me worried.
I totally agree. A year back, I was screaming to get my hands on Glass and I was super exited about the product, now I honestly don't care anymore. Nothing has happened.
Also I live outside US and I have heard nothing about a possible release in EU - it's terrible.
Michael Gomez2 years ago
Research has shown that people tend to overestimate the impact of technology in the short term ... yet underestimate the scale of change longer term. - Larry Page+4
Octavius S2 years ago
I wonder how differently everyone would feel if it was an Apple product?
Agreed. It's a solution waiting for a problem to solve.
Clifford M2 years ago
+Robert Scoble

Then NOW I just realiazed that you are "NOT" as good thinker, I thought you are...

You said:
"If this was an Apple product we would turn on it a LOT harder than we have so far. This is a deeply flawed product so far. Apple would never let such a thing into the wild."

That is kinda moronic to say, WHY?

Ask my son or even his friend that is in 8th grade...

They know that Google is different than Apple.

Apple is NOT doing the so called "PROJECTS" for geeks as they only care for finish products for the masses (regular folks).

For goodness sake, I thought you know that!!!

"Is GOOGLE released the "GLASS" in the market - Best Buy, Walmart, Target, Amazon, etc???"

If yes, then it's "DEEPLY FLAWED"...

I tried to undestand your point BUT you ruined it.

"They are ONLY selling the GLASS now to the so called explorers and developers to find out what is flawed in their "project" and you & me will be "PROUD" in the future that we added our inputs in the "FINAL" products that regular people can buy and afford."

(Update: you also said that you paid $1500 for it, and you want it to work, the way you like it to be - that's another stupid analyzation - why you didn't returned if you don't like it??? Then you replied to one comment and you said, you interviewed "THOUSANDS CEO'S", then you lost me there as I know you are "LYING")

To make the long story short, APPLE is for PURE profit and GOOGLE as we know, always waste & use their money to have "PROJECTS" that maybe will see the light of day or NOT...

I think this is my last rebuttal in your post because you are NOT making sense anymore...

(To those + your post, rebuttals and reshared it, they didn't dig deeper about the issue - STUPIDS...)

"STOP LYING in some of your rebuttal as you are going overboard in using words, just to make it look like you are better than them even you are NOT"

Have a great day 
Serge Berig2 years ago
Glass is a long term project. BETA. If you don't have patience, you might as well jump off the bandwagon because you're gonna need a ton more of it with Glass.+1
James Barraford2 years ago
+Robert Scoble There is Google Glass fatigue at this point. Many of us are sick of Elgan going on and on with his insistence that any weary look at Glass is Luddite idiocy. I passed on a chance to buy in eleven months ago when they first came out and glad I did. I would not have been able to write off as a tax deduction as most tech writers can.

Google needs to deal with serious flaws within G+ and other products before worrying about a nouveau rich niche product like Glass.

The average person won't be a $1,500 guinea pig for Google and it feels like the company has lost its way in that regard.

Don't get me started on what's wrong with Google+ and I don't just mean the laughable math when counting users.

They can't even fix the POS notification system here.

I have two Chromebooks, nexus 4/7, and Chromecast. I'm not a Google hater. But until the kool aid drinkers can take an honest look at shortcomings I wonder if the rudder can be straightened.
Octavius S2 years ago
+Robert Scoble They did let a deeply flawed product into the wild, Siri and iMaps. Both had serious flaws! iMaps was a disaster. To say there is one company that exist on this planet with flawless products is completely shortsighted. +2
Keith Barrett2 years ago
The useful part of joining a conversation late is that all my questions and views have already been spoken. +Robert Scoble  is right on most accounts; Glass is missing a lot of needed features and has horrible audio, everyone who's willing to pay $1500 has it now so the price HAS to come down to at least half of that, prescription options are a joke to people (like me) with strong or complex prescriptions or need to switch between contacts & glasses. My biggest frustration is the lack of store-and-forward functionality that would make it reliable - why do all functions have to fail just because it cannot connect to Google at the moment? I still wear it all the time because it does have usefulness, but the next upgrade with Kit Kat better bring along a lot of major improvements if I am to remain optimistic about its future versus a competitor swooping down and taking over. +3
Ryan R2 years ago
The Google Glass team posted this today:

Clearly the project has gone into hiding. /sarcasm
Brian Sullivan2 years ago
It seems like many people that paid money for Glass now feel they were cheated. They were tricked into paying to be alpha testers for a product that might not see the light of day and even if it does may not incorporate many of the tester's wishes or issues.

All I can say is that it is tough to have any sympathy for the people who forked out a ridiculous amount of money just to show they were Johnny Affluent and be the privileged first adopters.
Keith Barrett2 years ago
+Brian Sullivan You are making a sweeping generalization. Not everyone who has it could afford it; some were sponsored. Also Google's program allowed almost anyone to be a first adopter that submitted, so it's only a privilege in that a lot of people complain who never made an effort to enter and still felt entitled. Now anyone can invite themself.+1
Plus didn't any Google all access music subscriber get an invite? So if you wanted it and could find a way to fund it ( sponsor/kickstarter/patreon/paper route)
Serge Berig2 years ago
+Brian Sullivan the fallacy with your statement is that everyone who bought Glass had a 30 day opportunity to test it out in full, and return for a full refund if they weren't satisfied.  There were no promises made as to the rate of progress on the software/hardware side of Glass.  None.  I can only think of the XE14 update which was delayed in order to incorporate some major platform changes-but that's a different story.+2
Clifford M2 years ago

When you buy "SOMETHING" and you "KNOW" that it will be a "PROJECT" by a particular person or company, will you expect too much from it and if it didn't gave everything you want, then you will lambast them?

If "YES", then you are "IDIOT"...

When I got mine, I didn't expect it to have everything I want as I know I am their guinea pig (tester or would be developers).

I have a cousin who is in medical field and many times he used it to record some stuff and do note taking using the voice recording without wires or monitor that he needs to be connected at all time...
(He loves it!!!)

This is NOT for mass production yet and will be after 5 years the most...

"Even they will not update or pursue to make it work the way I like it to be, I have NO right to summon or lambast them as I know the consequences when I gave them my money..."

Is it hard to understand???

Even my son who is in 8th grades wants to make their own apps (with his friends) for the GLASS...

If it's NOT for you, STOP using it then sell it!!!


If you still believe on it, send/share your thoughts to +Google Glass team and be positive thinker...

It's NOT a complete product, thats why they are selling it as an explorer edition, for you and me to find the best ways to make it work and be like/wants by the masses in the future...

So, these points of +Robert Scoble is moot at its best...

(Update: Did +Google Glass told you that AFTER 2 years or so, it will be in the hands of the masses when you bought it?
In my part, "NO" - to make the freaking long story short, we "KNOW" that there's NO set time that regular folks will have it soon or even after some years)

Have a great day
+Ryan R That's an interesting post by Glass on G+ today.

Do any of you think that Moto 360 will detract a lot of the general public from their Glass lust into being more drawn towards a watch-type wearable?
Serge Berig2 years ago
I'm as frustrated as you +Robert Scoble but apparently far more patient :P  With that being said I do agree with you in part and see an opportunity for a well funded start-up etc... to introduce something a generation ahead of Glass at this point.  Assuming they can pull off Google Now integration.
Brian Sullivan2 years ago
+Keith Barrett 

"Also Google's program allowed almost anyone to be a first adopter that submitted," -- leaving aside the fact that you also had to pay $1500 so not just "anybody" -- only those that had a spare $1500. So that would be those with a lot money (or could scare up a "sponsor" with deep pockets).

Smacks of "I am special" complex on the part the first adopters. Like I said -- very little sympathy will be stirred.
Ryan R2 years ago
+Peter G McDermott I do think that's a possibility. It's going to be interesting to see how Google markets these products when there is a good deal of overlap. Glass can do things the Moto 360 can't though... namely take pictures and video hands free. But it's somewhat hard to see the need to have both on at the same time.+1
Ryan R2 years ago
+Robert Scoble we're going in circles a bit, but I think the post clearly demonstrates that Glass is not a project that's being abandoned or going into hiding as you have alleged.

I don't think it would be productive to repeat my earlier points, but there is just so much evidence to the contrary that you seem to be set on ignoring.
Serge Berig2 years ago
I feel like you're going to enjoy the Moto 360 far more than Glass :)+1
Clifford M2 years ago

As my old grandfather said:

A person who doesn't want to accept defeat is the "REAL" loser...

Have a great day
Keith Barrett2 years ago
+Brian Sullivan All prototype devices are expensive. Google has no monopoly on that. Did you think the people who bought the first iPhone after standing in line for a day were wealthy elitists? You're demonizing Google for a high price tag and you're demonizing people that paid it. Why do you even care whether someone can afford something or not? This is currently a non-essential luxury device under evolution. It's not class warfare.
+Robert Scoble Did you get the impression from the Glass post that the project will be delayed much longer than anticipated from hitting the consumer market?
Jake Weisz2 years ago
+Peter G McDermott I got that impression.+1
Clifford M2 years ago
+Peter G McDermott

If that's what they like to happen, so be it...

I have mine and I don't care if they will push more for it or NOT!!!

I know the "CONSEQUENCES" when I gave them my money - there's NO 100% assurance and I accepted it...

To make the long story short, when you dive in a very deep water, will you think that it will be easy to get out?

Release it or NOT (for the masses), I have no reason to get mad (but I will accept the fact that I will feel sad)...

I accept it, to what it is, and I'm trying my best to send/share my ideas to the +Google Glass team...

Successful or NOT, I will be OK...

Have a great day
+Clifford Miemban Please don't confuse my critical arguments as being emotionally charged. I'm not mad or upset with Google for anything related to Glass. All I have are contemplations, ideas and suggestions to make the experience better and the cultural acceptance wider. I wouldn't have dropped $1,500 if I didn't know what I was getting into. But, sometimes hindsight burns your eyes.+2
Scott Hanselman2 years ago
I thought you would "never take them off."+1
Clifford M2 years ago
+Peter G McDermott

Your rebuttal:
"+Clifford Miemban Please don't confuse my critical arguments as being emotionally charged. I'm not mad or upset with Google for anything related to Glass. All I have are contemplations, ideas and suggestions to make the experience better and the cultural acceptance wider. I wouldn't have dropped $1,500 if I didn't know what I was getting into. But, sometimes hindsight burns your eyes."

Last words caught my attention" "But, sometimes hindsight burns your eyes"

In my OWN thought and analysis about this issue is very simple and I'm well aware since I embraced the +Google Glass and I am so lucky NOT to be in that situation that making myself blinded by my positive thinking about this "project".

I truly admire your contemplations, ideas and suggestions to make the experience better...

I for one, like it to be more well rounded piece of technology, that's why I shared/sent some of my advices and suggestions to the team.

"I know it's frustrating if you didn't see what you want in a particular product BUT it doesn't mean you have to lambast it and get "ATTENTION" to make it look like "YOU" are the only one feel it that way (for the record, it's not you)..."

Thanks for being still a positive thinker for +Google Glass project...

Have a great day

Michael Comia2 years ago
I've been skeptical about +Google Glass when I read that +Google employees are even giving up on using it.
Erik Peterson2 years ago
+Robert Scoble  Hi.

Robert you didn't really provide any concrete evidence in your rant. I will try to address these one by one with my simpleton mind.

Living in the silicon valley bubble you should know software development is a crash and burn game. Wave was an interesting concept but they're only a few people who would really love it. Kind of like Basecamp. Sometimes the public isn't ready for technology so it needs to be shelved for awhile.

Games VS AR. You're posting here say. What does it matter if both are developed? Guess what, glass will have 'fun' versions and 'professional' versions. I am glad they're in disagreement because it makes a better product. If everyone agreed with you life would suck.

Here you go about the price again. It's a beta program. Are you complaining about MAC vs PC pricing? 

Are you feeling left out? Why are you feining for being constantly updated from google about glass and the future? I would almost guarantee google is trying to perfect the technology before the big push comes. And that means Glass incorporated into eye wear lens.

Larry Page isn't wearing Glass during a ted talk. OK. I didn't wear Glass today, does that mean my future is doomed?

It appears you are from the 'easy button' crowd where you want your stuff now and you want it fast and you want it free and cheap.

Regarding your google glass is doomed blog post.

1. You're a google ambassador wearing Google Glass. It is your job to educate the public. Don't shy away.

2. I am glad high schoolers have heard of glass. Some of my 20 something friends had no idea but high school kids at chik filet new exactly what it was. I am glad they are embrassing technology. They more we learn and they learn and the more we talk about it and debate the better.

3. You're pressing the easy button again.

4. Here you go on price again. I am seeing a pattern here. $300 is a bit low. I think what you're looking for is a bluetooth ear piece.

5.  I have never had anyone afraid that I am recording them. People have asked but they have never been concerned.

6.  The eye sensor. Solid point. I will give this one to you.

7. You have to remember this is a new industry, it's never been done before. Step off the easy button man!

8. The google employees not wearing glass. You are leaving out a KEY issue in your argument. That is the politics from the commi hipsters that had rent controlled housing in SF. They hate what google and facebook have done to rent and certain neighborhoods in SF. They lost there free ride.

9. You are right. In 5  years this stuff is really going to take off. 

Robert the only advice I have for you is slow your roll and provide some really strong constructive feed back. Not a complainers list.
Michael Comia2 years ago
Why the Moto 360 Smartwatch Will Kill Google Glass
James Katt2 years ago
Google's primary products are advertisements and search - in that order. Like Microsoft, Google has been trying everything it can to find additional products it can profit from. And like Microsoft, it has failed repeatedly. Android is one such product. But Google is simply turning it into a venue for its advertisements - an extension of its advertisement product. Android itself isn't a center for Google. There are so many failures at Google. Motorola was a failure. Google Wave was a failure. Google Phone is another failure. Sure, its remnants will be folded into Google Plus. But as a central product line, it is a complete failure despite its usefulness for millions of people. Google Glass is another failure. Google can't say "No" and Focus like Apple can. Everything Google does outside of Advertisements and Search is a beta product which sooner or later will fail.
James Katt2 years ago
Google's biggest problem is that it has no ideas from Apple to copy since Apple hasn't come out with its next product line. Google is trying to anticipate what Apple will do. This is why it came out with the Android wearable, Android watch ideas. This is why it is developing its own version of Apple TV. Flailing about with Apple's old ideas.
Melanie Brands2 years ago
Google Glass is ancient tech by now! Get ready to hype up Android Wearables, Scoble!
Jake Weisz2 years ago
+James Katt Dude. Apple has never produced an original product. They stole every idea they ever based a product on.+1
Ryan R2 years ago
+Michael Comia it's kind of funny that the links you shared are articles written by +Peter G McDermott or sourcing +Robert Scoble. Not sure if intentional self-awareness, or ironic sign of how small the community of Google wearable enthusiasts is. ;-)

I enjoyed Peter's article. I definitely think there are some questions about where Glass fits in now that we have the Moto 360, the LG G, and other Android wearables on the way. I'm mostly in agreement with the points iterated in that article too. I think it's especially true that development will be an easier transition for existing Android developers integrating their apps with the Moto 360. I'm already seeing how much easier it is to work with the Android Wear library, because the notification API was already present in the phone OS (starting in KitKat).

When developers first use the watch emulator, they're all pleasantly surprised to find that notifications on the phone are "just working" as expected on the watch. The notification API in Android was premeditated and now we're seeing why.

Mac Morrison2 years ago
So many comments - here's one more - I pretty much agree. I don't think there is (yet or for many years) a mass consumer market for glass.

However there is lots of potential workplace use cases.

(disclaimer - i worked on the concept for the above video)

OK so this video is fiction, but it shows how glass can be a useful part of the workplace - in both niches and larger workforces too.  

The work on glass is valuable and its all part of moving forward, slowly.
+Jake Weisz I'd be careful saying that. There's a big difference between stealing and improving.
Michael Goren2 years ago
I've been fascinated by the idea/potential of glass since day one. That said, I've been highly skeptical. Living in NYC I run into many Glass wearing googlers and I always chat them up about it. I've never once encountered one who seemed remotely joyed by wearing it/evangelizing for it. More worrisome though is the answer to "what do you do with it?" - to paraphrase it is a camera. Pressed for other uses I consistently get blank stares and a spiel about how great it is as a capture any moment tool. I don't get any sense of vision from those that wear it. It's a novelty it seems. +1
Why they aren't releasing this product and let the market find out how to profit it? It's a pity they're only doing this in a small circle. Technologies need accessibility in order to prove the usefulness of a product. If your product is so complicated to reach, there will never be a product. Just a prototype.+1
Scott Mace2 years ago
How do you watch TED from home? Are you paying for it? I didn't think it was available that way for free to individuals.
Jake Weisz2 years ago
+Peter G McDermott Apple hasn't "improved" anything.
+Jake Weisz I disagree. I think they have improved smartphone UI by leaps and bounds by limiting the way the carriers can customize their phones.
Wow, that is a disturbing observation for the future of Glass +Robert Scoble. If the leadership isn't using them even in public, does that mean they no longer see it as the future?

In my opinion, Glass saw rapid monthly improvement from May through December of 2013. But not much tangible has happened to the product since December.

I'm hoping that it's because they have a massive improvement on the way, not because Glass is the next Newton MessagePad. I want Glass to succeed!
Jeris JC Miller2 years ago
+John Knox I agree with you! And I too really want #Glass to succeed!! +1
Keith Barrett2 years ago
+John Knox my thoughts as well+2
Mark Zoeckler2 years ago
+Robert Scoble I think it is hard to classify an innovation, something never attempted before, as deeply flawed.  I agreed, as a much shorter period of time user, there are a lot of things that could be improved.  However, I see great potential usage in the business sector and selected verticals, especially as the API opens up and apps are written, as you've pointed out.  I think that makes it a game changer...but your point about Google losing focus, I agree.  I just hope they do some adaptive innovation on Glass and continue the concept, I think it does have legs.
Jeris JC Miller2 years ago
+Michael Goren Context is everything! Our experience [with the exception of a very overblown incident] has been almost always positive. Our #SeattleGlassExplorers Community is elevating the #GlassCultureConversation along with my dear friend +Cecilia Abadie. Our #SGEIncubator is developing remarkable tools & workstreams focused on #Glass4Good applications. Here is a Prezi of our work that we just presented to the Kirkland Googleplex & GDG Seattle groups this week:

Our work demonstrates Proof of Concept for the first generation of #GlassMed in a Surgical setting & #EmotionalIntelligence for psychotherapy & Autism Spectrum. We are also focusing on the #Glass -> YouTube -> HOA Broadcasting Pathway [The HangOuts engineering team is Here at the Kirkland Googleplex ... we have worked with this team in the past on TEDxRainier]

I would also invite you to take a look at +Noble Ackerson & +Cecilia Abadie's +LynxFit & Genie applications in development. We have many compelling Use Cases & Programs under way in #Glass.
Aaron Smith2 years ago
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Glass is compelling technology with a wide variety of INDUSTRY SPECIFIC applications for tons of people (surgeons, mechanics, delivery drivers, etc). BUT it has little/no mass market appeal unless they figure out how to eliminate the geek and Glass-hole factors.
Donald Christian2 years ago
+Robert Scoble Would it be possible, that with the Kit Kat upgrade.  Google is making revisions to the hardware.  I could see them adding a 8 MP camera, reducing the 100 degree heat from when the device is recording video, improving the microphones.  Like adding two or three.  Adding another battery to the other side of the Titanium band?

I am just rambling, but would love to hear others thoughts, assumptions and opinions.
Jack Brown2 years ago
This is a good reality check, Robert. I have been following with interest the unveiling of Android Wear, which looks like a very complete and well thought out product, from early reviews. But your point here, that Google seems to have a real problem with pushing a killer product all the way out the door, in a complete and compelling form, makes me more skeptical. The obvious comparison is with the way Apple manages their major products; they only see the light of day when they are really ready to go. Google's iterative, public beta approach does not superficially have anything wrong with it, but perhaps subtracts from an important sense of urgency that a 'push it out the door' philosophy encourages.
Mac Morrison2 years ago
+Scott Morrison good point re the optical industry, the last pair of glasses I bought were £550 and that was 4 years ago (orgreens) which isn't much less than glass.
Cody Engel2 years ago
I agree on all of your points. I wore Glass just about every day from June - December, then I slowly weaned myself off of it. Now I only wear it when I'm going out to the city because it's only real use is effortless picture taking.

I think it's become very evident that the Glass team doesn't know what they want the product to be. It's too discrete to be a player in augmented reality and yet it's too obtrusive to be a notification device. Watches seem to be the future for notification devices, the Moto 360 looks very promising and I'd rather wear that around than Glass.

Perhaps one of the best features of Glass is navigation. However a number of states (including the one I live in, Illinois) are already writing up legislation to ban devices like Glass from being used while driving. Google isn't making any effort to stop this legislation either. I was fortunate enough to get in contact with a PR person on the Glass team who was going to call me one evening; he called me over a half hour late and by that time I had already gone on with the rest of my evening and wasn't available to talk.

Glass is a cool device. Unfortunately Google doesn't seem to know what to do with it. I worry that they are keeping the price high so that they can recoup their expenses and then move on to some other project. It's one reason why I tell everyone that receives invites to wait for the finished product.
Ian Tang2 years ago
+Robert Scoble You sure make some great points, some points that I agree with. And, I certainly think there's a lot of work Glass needs to do. And they will, in time, work on that. But, ultimately, I'm confident about what +Google Glass is doing for technology and the success (and importance) they'll have on Google for and in the future.

Why? The main thing is that this is nowhere near a finished product, just like the +T-Mobile +HTC G1 and the Google Cr-48 were nowhere near their prime days. That came several years afterwards for both projects. At the time, many people too thought those two products were clunky and useless and presumed that they would never be successful in the grand scheme of things. In fact, +Eric Schmidt used a BlackBerry for quite some time. Many Googlers used, and continue to use iPhone's. Google, internally, used, and also continue to use, Apple computers and many didn't use the Cr-48. Neither of these facts influenced the successes that Android and Chrome would see in the future.

Glass is a device that is so ahead of its time. But, just like +Larry Page said at TED2014, many companies fail because they miss the future. This won't be the case for Google. And I know and believe it. It's the same with Google+. Will Glass evolve? Yes, it definitely will. Will the version of Glass that is worn by the future citizens of the world be completely different? Quite possibly and most likely. Heck, we might not even recognize it as Glass. Are there still situations where Glass is not useful? Yup, and there probably will continue to be. But you shouldn't write off Glass like that just because a CEO isn't wearing it. Or just because a co-founder isn't wearing it. You have some great thoughts and insightful posts here, but let's look at this objectively.

Besides, this is a TED conference. Not only did Larry probably not need it on-stage, but could you imagine the amount of people that would walk up to both him and +Sergey Brin? Glass' battery life probably wouldn't even be able to withstand that, something that is definitely one of their weaknesses.

Glass isn't about just wearing it. Glass is about being thoughtful with technology... knowing when you need or want to use it. To a degree, it forces you to think about when you really want to engage with technology. And, in turn, it allows you to better engage with life. 

Also... is giving up or failure always such a bad thing? Not really. "Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly" (Robert Kennedy).
Mark Hamlet2 years ago
I agree that Google can be slow to implement features and updates and they really need to address this.

However the real reason google Wave died was simply because it was too complicated for the average public. I tried to push it at the school I was working in at the time and nobody other than a few of my best students and two other staff members could understand it.
David Abraham2 years ago
Glass looks hideous.
Glass looks suspicious.
Glass is irrelevant.

Larry has seen the future.
Glass is not in it.
Ahad Bokhari2 years ago
Scoble is great with reliving and remembering tech trends, thanks Robert. I like that glasses is a glimpse of how we might process information in the future, but that's about it :)

Personally from the moment i saw glass I new it would die out, it was just a matter of time. This is a great example of tech for the sake of tech - What we fail to do in wearable technology is ask ourselves "What sort of problem does this tackle?"

I agree that Google does experimental stuff, all the time. Having said that, I really like the contact glasses that monitors diabetes, now that's pretty damn amazing...
Ken Fromchicago2 years ago
Yes, why has Google given up on Glass, a product it has NOT RELEASED yet? Oh, wait, it was NOT RELEASED yet.

What about stuff it has released? 
--Google Now? Yep, still going. 
--Google Plus? Yes, still exists. Are they long-standing flaws in it, the same is true of Microsoft Office, Apple iTunes, Twitter's Twitter, but I don't think anyone would credibly claim those companies have "given up" on those products.
--Google Wave? The consumer end is gone, but the underlying functionality lives on (notice how Google Translate will begin translating WHILE you're typing a sentence).
--Google Play? Still here.
--Chromebooks? Still here.
--Chromecast? Still here.
Jason Rist2 years ago
Now you're caught up with the rest of the world, Robert.+1
Roman2 years ago
+Robert Scoble +Vic Gundotra +Sundar Pichai yes, fight for users, fight for future :) ... the same like:
1) too simple Android means lack of innovations (there is also a "dictatorship" = disabled permission manager = declining our privacy); pure Android does really not matter at all = about 2% of all devices = Google should learn from the Samsung's success more = Google, learn from Samsung!
2) Google plus is led by people who does not know the competitors (you're even not able to sort photos and videos according to exif time info or give us different privacy for photos in an album = completely useless for real sharing) = learn from Flickr!
3) Google play store is almost useless for browsing (totally missing filters for searching = pure money loss for Google) = learn from brain store!
4) Google TV is without TV! (TV will never end in the human's future) = learn from sage TV or mediaportal!
5) car integration should have been here for many years, google is behind Apple again = learn from Bury!
6) maps without offline maps = just a local toy = learn from Sygic!

Does Google really have real "users" who have their needs or do they just code something? Google is missing a real products' integrator (knowing almost everything but nothing) who knows how to push the future among people with the most important thing how to achieve that = educate its users or we are going to stuck in "dumbness" :) And that means sure money loss for Google in future = less innovations = less interest into innovations from its users = less money for Google

There is too much about how Google is totally missing the real usage of its products, so you're right.

But there are a few exceptions: Google's ads system, search, translate, gmail and calendar.

Unfortunately the most important products are missing a lot: Android, Google plus hangouts, cars, TV, home automation = totally wrong (Android is successful not because of its greatness but because of its openness and more than million of apps)
Jake Weisz2 years ago
+Robert Scoble Unless Google arranged this deal in a week, it sounds like your contacts might not have been "in the know": Google and the company who owns Oakley have made a deal:
Michael Gomez2 years ago
+Jake Weisz Common sense ain't to common for some.+1
Carlos Zorrilla2 years ago

"Mr. Guerra said Oakley and Ray-Ban designers, among others, have been working with Google designers to develop eyewear that will incorporate Glass technology without simply mounting Google's device on top of Luxottica sunglasses, for instance."

Dear Robert, you "knew" Oakley was not in talks with Google about Glass.

I am sorry to say you are not as well informed as you think you are.
Carlos Torres2 years ago
It will be interesting to see what happens.  I always thought it was super interesting that Google executives would wear glass and promote glass (a future product)  when you compare to the Steve Jobs style of keeping everything completely top secret to the nth degree.  

Remember the Nexus Q was a complete failure and joke however I think the lessons learned gave us the Chromecast. 

We hear today they are working with the makers of Rayban and Oakley for glass products.  I like the idea that I have cool sunglasses and by the way, I have a camera and an OS if neccessary.

I was surprised by your frank thoughts about glass because before you promoted so well as frontline soldier.  I'm glad you did because if it's not viable, it's not viable and it needs to be reevaluated.  
heh, first thing I thought when I saw the Oakley news was how a certain someone knew everyone in the industry and knew everything that was going on..... ;)+1
Jake Weisz2 years ago
+Robert Scoble I don't think anyone's saying it addresses all issues, but the point is, Robert, your "facts" were wrong. You are in some cases stating things to be fact where you are not positive that is the case.+2
of course pretty new frames won't fix everything.  It does call into question the suggestion that the project is being slowly killed off.+2
Keith Barrett2 years ago
You need to take everything Robert says with a grain of salt... and a shot of tequila and a lime  :-)+5
Carlos Torres2 years ago
I just want to say for the record, I think Google Music Unlimited is an awesome product and not "deeply flawed".+1
Yann Tolila2 years ago
+Robert Scoble is it a real interview of you or did they just translated your thoughts about Google Glass? 
Michael Comia2 years ago
You need to take everything with a grain of salt, sunny or cloudy disposition.
David Abraham2 years ago
+Keith Barrett actually I view his streams as entertainment.  Tech fiction if you will :)
clive boulton2 years ago
Google's mission is to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful. This dispels uncertainty, doing a lot of good.  Likewise for an open innovator like Google it would be very useful to know which products are currently deemed experiments vs strategic vs deprecating (of course this changes over time). Transparency here does a lot of good, makes sharing future milestones unnecessary, and stops games of reading the tea leaves.