Hi GNOME hackers
I would like to respond to the "recent-files" by default in the GTK-file-chooser : https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2012-November/msg00040.html (by +Federico Mena Quintero )
For me, it's the most annoying thing that I ever had to deal with. The reason is simple : it raises me an error every time I try to save a file. An seeing an error is probably the worst possible experience an user could have.
Why so?
Because I've what seems to be an incredible habit: I use my home folder. My home folder is my desktop (see http://ploum.net/post/201-the-aristocratic-desktop-part-2-home-is-desktop ). Each time I create a new file with an application or I download a new file, I save it in my home folder. Later, I clean that and put the files in the best location. But while I'm working, everything goes in my home folder.
So when I'm prompted to save a file (be it a new document, a download or anything), I was used to simply type the name and press enter. As simple as that.
Try that :
1. Open Gedit
2. Write some characters
3. Save
4. Enter a new
5. Press enter
BOUM ! Error !
Yes, it is now impossible to simply save a file. You have to take your mouse, think about what folder might be the best, click on it. It completely breaks my workflow (when I'm starting to write a document, I don't want to think about where it will go).
So, my questions :
1. Is my workflow unusual?
2. Do you think it is acceptable that I receive an error each time I'm trying to save a file?
I would like to respond to the "recent-files" by default in the GTK-file-chooser : https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2012-November/msg00040.html (by +Federico Mena Quintero )
For me, it's the most annoying thing that I ever had to deal with. The reason is simple : it raises me an error every time I try to save a file. An seeing an error is probably the worst possible experience an user could have.
Why so?
Because I've what seems to be an incredible habit: I use my home folder. My home folder is my desktop (see http://ploum.net/post/201-the-aristocratic-desktop-part-2-home-is-desktop ). Each time I create a new file with an application or I download a new file, I save it in my home folder. Later, I clean that and put the files in the best location. But while I'm working, everything goes in my home folder.
So when I'm prompted to save a file (be it a new document, a download or anything), I was used to simply type the name and press enter. As simple as that.
Try that :
1. Open Gedit
2. Write some characters
3. Save
4. Enter a new
5. Press enter
BOUM ! Error !
Yes, it is now impossible to simply save a file. You have to take your mouse, think about what folder might be the best, click on it. It completely breaks my workflow (when I'm starting to write a document, I don't want to think about where it will go).
So, my questions :
1. Is my workflow unusual?
2. Do you think it is acceptable that I receive an error each time I'm trying to save a file?
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+Xavier Claessens - I assume that you were including yourself in that statement, then? ;P19 Nov 2012
I've not done much since 3.0, but yes :-)19 Nov 2012
+Lionel Dricot I had the same workflow for certain applications before, and now I get the error sometimes, but it's not my main workflow so it's not that annoying.
When this became default I honestly thought it was the right choice. I've seen it happen many times and it's happened to me more than a few times. People click save and then wonder where the file is.
I guess that returning to the previous behavior is the lesser evil. It won't improve the situation for distracted users but it won't make it worse than it was before.19 Nov 2012
+Lionel Dricot Either a default location is provided or it is not. In your post you show why the later is broken and in your first comment you show why the former is broken.
In my opinion, explicit save is broken either ways.
A better experience is that where applications save automatically and let you «organize» (set custom filename and directory) later, if you ever care.19 Nov 2012
+António Fernandes > I guess you are right. This is indeed very enjoyable, a good example being Google Drive.19 Nov 2012
+Andreas Nilsson is correct; GNOME designers weren't involved. This change was pushed through despite our efforts to try to hold it back (and to help with design) when we found out about it.20 Nov 2012