DMCA violation threat... for doing security research.. its like the 90's up in here..
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- I don't sympathize with, but some of the responses are clearly over the top. We need a process that lets researchers inform companies about vulnerabilities without casting suspicion on the researchers. An organization such as UL for example. A timeline, created to give companies the ability to make patches before disclosure. Something most of us can agree on.May 8, 2015
- Why don't you sympathize with him?May 8, 2015
- Rudimentary Treatise on the Construction of Locks, 1853 (excerpt)
-- Charles Tomlinson
A commercial, and in some respects a social, doubt has been started within the last year or two, whether or not it is right to discuss so openly the security or insecurity of locks. Many well-meaning persons suppose that the discussion respecting the means for baffling the supposed safety of locks offers a premium for dishonesty, by showing others how to be dishonest. This is a fallacy. Rogues are very keen in their profession, and already know much more than we can teach them respecting their several kinds of roguery. Rogues knew a good deal about lockpicking long before locksmiths discussed it among themselves, as they have lately done. If a lock -- let it have been made in whatever country, or by whatever maker -- is not so inviolable as it has hitherto been deemed to be, surely it is in the interest of honest persons to know this fact, because the dishonest are tolerably certain to be the first to apply the knowledge practically; and the spread of knowledge is necessary to give fair play to those who might suffer by ignorance. It cannot be too earnestly urged, that an acquintance with real facts will, in the end, be better for all parties.
Some time ago, when the reading public was alarmed at being told how London milk is adulterated, timid persons deprecated the exposure, on the plea that it would give instructions in the art of adulterating milk; a vain fear -- milkmen knew all about it before, whether they practiced it or not; and the exposure only taught purchasers the necessity of a little scrutiny and caution, leaving them to obey this necessity or not, as they pleased.
...The unscrupulous have the command of much of this kind of knowledge without our aid; and there is moral and commercial justice in placing on their guard those who might possibly suffer therefrom. We employ these stray expressions concerning adulteration, debasement, roguery, and so forth, simply as a mode of illustrating a principle -- the advantage of publicity. In respect to lock-making, there can scarcely be such a thing as dishonesty of intention: the inventor produces a lock which he honestly thinks will posess such and such qualities; and he declares his belief to the world. If others differ from him in opinion concerning those qualities, it is open to them to say so; and the discussion, truthfully conducted, must lead to public advantage: the discussion stimulates curiosity, and curiosity stimulates invention. Nothing but a partial and limited view of the question could lead to the opinion that harm can result: if there be harm, it will be much more than counterbalanced by good.May 8, 2015
- Amen.May 8, 2015
- carton+2The problem I have with Catherine is not that she's wrong. It takes time to work through issues and often also takes the experience of implementing mistaken plans and evaluating the result to realize which norms are best.
The problem is that you're confidently-wrong, about a settled and domain-specific issue, and seething ad-hominem spittle toward a clear consensus of domain experts that I don't think you realize exists, even after we warned you. Surely you must be aware you're not an expert yourself, and therefore should be uncertain of your view until you read about this old debate? The consensus on this is so strong and so old, anti-vaxers make more sense than your view.
Arrogant and extremist ignorance is ripe for manipulation by sophists with poor intent and breaks democracy by making propaganda more powerful. It's also behind populist disasters like the witch trials, so I guess it's very American. too bad for us.May 11, 2015
- You're right about extremist ignorance. I did like her grasp of "tyranny of code," however she put that twist. And I think some hold the misguided view that an opinion is required about everything.May 10, 2015
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