Tariq Ramadan et Charlie Hebdo.
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- Mercipour ce commentaire - et en français! Je suis désolé de ne pas être d'accord. Tout ce que je sais de Tariq Ramadan (Genevois comme moi - ou Jean Ziegler), c'est que c'est un spécialiste du double langage: il y a ce qu'il dit aux Occidentaux, et ce qu'il dit aux musulmans... J'espère que tu as lu l'article que je signalais (qui est disponible en anglais).Jan 12, 2015
- I do not in any way condone Islamist violence and I am committed to using any knowledge I have to help in the work to stop it, but picking on the wrong target does not help. I have read the article, in both languages, and I cannot see anything there to make me change my mind. There is nothing offensive or inappropriate about describing the Charlie cartoons as the 'humour of cowards' and as a commercial product made for profit. It may not be fair or true in this particular case, but it is true of a great deal of so-called satire in the modern world. You cannot expect any believing Muslim not to be offended by cartoons of the Prophet. You can only expect them not to express their offence violently. So I agree that the loose language about 'violence will be the price' is unacceptable.Most of this type of language is mere rhetoric, but when some Islamists are prepared to take it literally, it should be avoided. I am still though sure that Ramadan himself would never use that type of language, if only because he is very skilled in conciliating the West, as you say. I find it very difficult to believe that he is really playing the type of highly sophisticated double game that you claim, as his works are all read by both Muslims and non-Muslims, he is not writing for two audiences. Some Muslim thinkers who also write in Arabic definitely are saying different things to the West. Ramadan is now at Oxford, where they are knowledgeable about these things and they read many languages, and I am certain that he would not be so well regarded there or his appointment there accepted without protest if he had ever said anything that clearly promoted violence. I have heard his work discussed by many people active in Islamic and Middle East studies and I have never heard him described as anything but a moderate and a conciliator. The US State Dept have the same concept of him as you do, because they once refused him a visa, and my research network sent a letter of protest to the US embassy about it. But then the US State Dept is notorious for its inability to distinguish who the really threatening people are. As for Qaradawi, he is considered a moderate in his interpretation of Islamic law in many areas - notably in finance where I have most knowledge. He worries the West politically but his anti-Israel views are of course mainstream among most Muslims, it's just that he is famous enough for the West to take notice of them.Jan 13, 2015
- We will have to agree to disagree on this one,...
Partly, our outlook is different: yours is academic and cultural, mine purely political. I agree there are many worse exponents of Islam. But I have a special interest in Tariq as he is like me a citizen of Geneva - where he succeeeded in calling for an anti-Islam play by Voltaire to be deprogrammed in 1993 (fittingly, the play went to Ferney-Voltaire). I'm not a woman, but I don't think we should take lightly his views on them even if they are standard or even enlightened in some parts of the world. Same for stoning and other corporal punishment, gays and Israel and the Jews. And the way he treated Caroline Fourest who wrote a critical book about him is despicable.
On the polemic about Tariq and Charlie in Switzerland, see also http://goo.gl/ULyb2b and the other article mentionned.Jan 14, 2015
- Can you give me further details about the book by Caroline Fourest? This has probably happened more recently than the time I was actively reading his work, though I do have a very faint recollection of some controversy over a book about him. I think I may have to turn to email for my more personal thoughts on these matters.Jan 14, 2015
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