Had a discussion with our neighbor who was lucky to get a job at the Shipyards which is union. I asked him how he like it and asked if it was a union job? He said yes and that he didn't believe in unions. I stood there complex and smiled and said so what kind of wages are you making? He said $31.00 an hour and he is in his late 50s. I said well I never worked for no one unless it was a union job. When I retire I'll have pensions both from the companies I worked for as well as a pension from those two unions. I'll be well pretty set looking at $4,000 and that's not bad. The union took care of me and my family. I took paid leave with a guarantee of my job back for all my three kids -- and the best medical and I paid $400 a month and was able to write it off my taxes -- yeah sure he doesn't believe in unions!