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Thanks very much for introducing me to this book Keith - until now I had associated the term 'object-oriented' with computing. Flattening ontologies seems like a good thing (up to a point) but the message I got when connecting to this post gave me pause for thought "This site uses cookies from Google to deliver its services, to personalise ads and to analyse traffic. Information about your use of this site is shared with Google. By using this site, you agree to its use of cookies."  My son had asked me at breakfast "What is Google to you?" - a good question. So if I think of your post as an object related to Google and to we humans who are reading and commenting then I can see that we objects cannot fully know each other. But the epistemology that Google, a complex assemblage of people and non-humans, reveals in its cookie statement, suggests a bumpy ontology. Google is interested in the very much reduced version of us that can help it sell ads. It simultaneously ignores and remembers. So Google will still 'know'  and remember the comments from your old blog that are now forgotten here.  It will use that data for currently known and future unknown commercial purposes and all because I was tempted to click "Got it".

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Best wishes in your new job and home - and the new blog looks good. Sad you have lost the comments from the old posts though.

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I have puzzled over your game analogy quite a bit see https://francesbell.wordpress.com/2015/05/30/918/

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Perhaps Dave was an obligatory passage point in rhizo14 :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obligatory_passage_point

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Have you got any examples from rhizo14 of people speaking or writing about it with scientific objectivity? You are not the first to mention this and I can't think of any examples

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It's not a part of speech but I think Wordles give a different perspective on a text and even our own writing.

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I hope that you don't mind me replying again so long after the event of you publishing this.  I have come here via a survey respondent who referred to what you said about lurking, and I re-read your post and the comments.  As is not unusual, I took some different meaning this time in addition to what I read and responded to before.  It's very interesting because today I have been thinking and writing about the Week 2 incident that you refer to.  I heard from another participant what some saw as the 'cause' of the problem - an assumption/attitude expressed and later edited out of a blog post.  I watched  and participated in the Rhizo14 FB group trying to show compassion and failing to comfort those who felt belittled and subsequently left. Re-reading your post chimed with what I felt at the time - that the anger and feelings of being offended were as much a clash of assumptions and misunderstanding as anything. So if the general assumption (I saw very few differing from this) was to explain the incident by local causality, how does a community pedagogy deal with this? The sort of pedagogy that rhizomatic learning seems to try to move past might also use local causality, and a feminist or critical pedagogy would take a different approach.
The second thing that I wondered about (and I am hoping you might help me here) was whether or not the ideas of global/circular causality might link to rhizomatic thinking - perhaps via assemblages.  I find myself resisting the idea of causality  and looking for sets of relations and connections.

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Great post Inge. I love the learner rather than course focus. It's really interesting to think about learner journey for those who engage with MOOCs - MOOCs may just be a minor learning source for them. Your work is very relevant to my own - please share any pubs:)

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Thanks for your lengthy reply Keith. I appreciate it. I suspected you were being unfair - I certainly didn't suggest you were being abusive. I certainly know the name of the person whose name you had forgotten. I read their Rhizo14 posts before responding.
I am still pondering the issue of having intentions ascribed in #rhizo14 - had that experience myself in last 30 mins.
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