Posted on theforce.net
and something I've been thinking about for a while...does it bother any other Star Wars fans that the Jedi and the Republic used slaves and child soldiers in the Clone Wars, and they were still the "good guys"? Even our favorite good guy Yoda never spoke up. I would kinda like to see Kanan address this in Rebels--how things with the Jedi hadn't been right for a long time.
Posted by fett 4
Narutakikun said: ↑
"Sorry I'm late posting. I've been doing some personal reevaluation of how much time I devote to posting on forums. I think it will be less from now on.
Anyhow, re: the difference between Barriss, Anakin, Ahsoka, and knighthood, here's an unfortunate reality:
The Jedi use child soldiers.
In fact, it's worse than that. They use children and slaves as soldiers, for certainly, slaves are exactly what the clones are.
How old is Ahsoka when we meet her, exactly? 13? 14? And she's leading troops in full-on combat? This is stuff that in our own world, we were collectively all ready to string Joseph Kony up for last year.
You could argue that the Jedi have been taking small children into their ranks, and sending adolescent padawans out on missions, for years. True enough, but 1) Just because the Jedi have been doing it a long time doesn't make it automatically right, and 2) there's a fundamental difference between being an apprentice peacekeeper and being a child soldier. The line there was crossed when, despite their insistence that they couldn't and wouldn't do so, the Jedi did, in fact, go from being peacekeepers to being soldiers.
Yes, peacekeeping is fundamentally different - I'm reminded of the statistics from our own world about how something like 90% of police officers go their whole careers without ever drawing their weapon outside of the confines of a firing range. For the prewar Jedi, the reality must have been something closer to that than to what we see in TCW. And the system of adolescent apprentices who learn under a mature master and get knighted in their 20s worked great for that reality.
But that system isn't really well-suited to the kind of open warfare that's happening now, and we're starting to see the consequences of that. Jedi like Barriss are starting to seriously wonder whether this is really what they signed on for, and whether it's something they want to be a part of. And then you have Anakin and Ahsoka. Both are products of their times, and Ahsoka perhaps even more so than Anakin. It's unfashionable to say this, but the truth is that children and adolescents generally become whatever is expected of them. Ahsoka has been expected to be a soldier, and that's what she's become, which may make her what the Jedi Order needs (or thinks it needs) right now, but, well, as Barriss might note: is this really what the Jedi should be? Is this really what Jedi ought to become? She's temperamental, passionate, impulsive, often angry, way more attached than the Jedi are taught is healthy, too often thinks with her lightsaber... and that's not just adolescent stuff that she's growing out of as time goes by - in many ways, it's getting worse. And why wouldn't it? Her master is nobody to teach her otherwise - Anakin, of course, has his own issues with all of the above, and "like father figure, like daughter figure" - and the unusual times in which she has grown to maturity have made many of those qualities far less undesirable, and in fact, often downright beneficial. In the chaos of the war, few are going to notice what she's becoming, or why it could be bad, and even fewer are going to care.
I know we all like Ahsoka a lot, and I'm not saying she's evil or even wrong - just that she's a product of what's happening around her, and that in her own well-intentioned way, she is symbolic - both in how she acts and in what she is, which is, again, a child soldier - of the way in which the Jedi Order has degenerated during the war... how it has lost sight of its goals, its mission, its purpose, and yes, even its core values. What's amazing isn't that Barriss is questioning all of this, but that more Jedi - even Yoda - aren't."
The problem with this, is that they didn't sign on. They were taken as babies and put in a creepy cult like environment.
I remember the Holocron episodes, with Sidious taking the force sensitive children to be used as agents and thinking, when you get right down to it, the Jedi do the exact same thing.