Chris Mooney, author of Unscientific America, offers a disturbing view on how firmly some of our neighbors - even moderately well educated ones - can cling to aphorisms, assertions and just-so stories in order to clutch a politically motivated view - or mis-view - of scientific facts. I agree with Mooney that this effect has done grievous harm to our once-scientific and rational nation. Mooney's article shows that our current Culture War is not about left vs right at all. It is about two very different sets of personalities—and perceptions of reality. And evidence has a limited power to persuade on hot button issues where deep emotions are involved. As a result, the “war on science” has ballooned long past any mere attack upon the credibility of researchers and professors. It now manifests as a general onslaught on all knowledge castes -- including teachers, economists, journalists,civil servants, medical doctors, skilled labor, judges, diplomats... everyone(in other words) who actually knows a lot. All are routinely attacked on you-know-which-murdochian-" news"-network.
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- Like I have stated before believe as you wish. I do not really mind what you believe but please do not force your beliefs on me.
I wouldn't mind believing what has an evidence through scientific method for anything. Provided I can proove it on my own with such experiments. Other wise the thought that there being a god or no god is allowed to be debated. Otherwise I see no use in such an argument and there is no need to trust a book that cannot provide such proof through evidence.Mar 22, 2012
- I guess we again are off tract. I thought the question was if abortion was murder or not. I thought it is a position that both people of faith and atheist could agree on based solely on science. I think you have already stated that you would never have an abortion, so I think that means you know it to be wrong, sin, or the wrong moral choice. I believe if you know it to wrong and do not try to save the lives of other unborn children you are just as morally responsible. Again I must point to Hitler's Germany. As you say many christian watched and did nothing as train fulls of Jews left their towns, they did nothing as they watch them enter the concentration camps and never come out, even as they saw the smoke rise from the ovens. Albert Einstein said "That the worlds is not so much hurt by evil people but by people who will do nothing about it" 60 million have died in Americas silent Holocaust, Will you be brave enough to even vote against it? Will you dare to even be publicly associated with those who appose this evil?Mar 22, 2012
- "I thought we already decided to agree to disagree about the subject of the god. Am I wrong about this?"
Pointless to add then why u add?
Why you want to use Hitler as your shield for reason?
Think on your own why you want anything other than faith in religious moral or people of history. Why do you personally believe in any thing at this present and not based anything completely on what you know from others experience that you never met?Mar 22, 2012
- There is American Nazis and Nazis all over the world today. some wish Jews were dead and some Muslims do too.
I do not join extremists in such evil acts and I do vote against having those 'religious extremists' that decide to it.Mar 22, 2012
- Jennifer I am sorry if I tried to force my beliefs on you. I thought we had put aside any religious beliefs or lack there of and were solely discussing science and how morality could be drawn from it. I thought you had reintroduced religion and I responded to it. I only used Hitler because he is a good example of someone who convinced other that some human were not person at all,Jews were sub-human and thus their lives could morally be ended. I don't know my American history as well, but I'm sure someone could make the exact same argument about the treatment of native Americans.There was in fact this same devaluation of these “savages” to count them not equal to other humans. Certainly the treatment of Africa Americans would also prove the point. I have enjoyed our conversation so far, but if you do not, say so, and this will be my last post to you. I was trying to pull out the point that if you believe abortion was wrong for you, it would be also wrong for others and the unborn who have been reduce to non persons, zero people, or useless eaters, what ever term that would be used to devalue their humanity.Mar 22, 2012
- I think they all are different events in topics of the how, but all are related as well to religion and government. I don't just mean American government either.
Though if you want to relate all to genocide this is where they can become similar perhaps.
"Genocide is defined as "the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group", though what constitutes enough of a "part" to qualify as genocide has been subject to much debate by legal scholars."
Just say genocide and don't compare one fetus or baby over the other in race and nationality.
Fetal Genocide? The Right to Choose and Republican RhetoricMar 24, 2012