I am proud to announce that im the 200th to sign this wonderful petition, thus reaching the goal of the petition! I hope that Lennart idiot now really stops writing useless programs (e.g. the world-renown "l33t Surfer" tool, seriously, such a useless waste of time!), and focusses on the useful ones (e.g. systemd, the journal, Avahi and PulseAudio).
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+Антон Кочков Skilled sysadmins doesn't use sed and vim anymore, they use zabbix and puppet (just example), and they want software logs/output to be easy collected/aggregated/understand for tools which they use to automate admins work.Jan 6, 2012
+Maksim Melnikau why just not add normalization feature in syslog? Thats much more easy than writing tool from scratch.Jan 6, 2012
+Антон Кочков
int syslog(int type, char *bufp, int len);
int klogctl(int type, char *bufp, int len);
Not so much place for improvement, so it require add some: syslogN(klogctlN) - and so on (its starting looking like journald, but with different name).
Then you need think about some compressed normalized-log format. On typical highload server you could get about 100G logs in a day, and before rotation its waste of space. Ok. Lets think about monitoring, sometimes(once a second/minute/hour) you need parse logs - with general log structure its just read hole file (imagine about 2-3G logs per hour) - its a) takes too long, b) wipes buffer cache on your server. So you need some custom binary format, or put data in mysql/sqlite/etc.
Its now starting looking like journald even more.
I can continue, about security and so on (all this aspects described in journald documentation).
At the end, you will have smth like journald.
And please don't say be about "easy than". If few persons from RedHat could implemented it on top of systemd, ask IBM why they do very expensive solutions like tivoli log analyzer and so on.
If 10 years ago typical admin have 10 servers in farm with 5Gb/month logs, now it have 100 servers and 10Gb/day. Old solutions just doesn't work.Jan 6, 2012
My Debian system boots much faster with systemd, so systemd is really useful, at least, for me.Jan 6, 2012
+Roman Franchuk lol, just as expected.Jan 6, 2012
haha...just read the comment of Wolfgang Draxinger on that petition. Seems like you made yourself an enemy at last years C3 :)Jan 6, 2012
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