I don't mind these GNOME forks so much. But I would hope that they would take as mall portion of the developers and invest it in GNOME so since they have some dependencies on the internal components like GTK+.
Also, once you reach feature parity with GNOME 2, where will they go from there? Will they just keep it in steady state or will they be essentially done?
Finally, what would be the attraction to new users, younger users who have grown up on touch interfaces like tablets and cell phones and are essentially presented with a soup'd up windows 95 look alike? What about when laptops especially windows 8 enabled laptops have touch screens? Will this design help them? How can this interface work with these new hardware capabilities?
We aren't fucking around with design and changing interface just because. Hardware is changing, new capabilities are required and sometimes a certain design has reached it's shelf life.
Also, once you reach feature parity with GNOME 2, where will they go from there? Will they just keep it in steady state or will they be essentially done?
Finally, what would be the attraction to new users, younger users who have grown up on touch interfaces like tablets and cell phones and are essentially presented with a soup'd up windows 95 look alike? What about when laptops especially windows 8 enabled laptops have touch screens? Will this design help them? How can this interface work with these new hardware capabilities?
We aren't fucking around with design and changing interface just because. Hardware is changing, new capabilities are required and sometimes a certain design has reached it's shelf life.
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+Sriram Ramkrishna We are already working with GNOME and Flashback developers to share more things as possible. But Classic mode and Flashback one cant satisfy all what MATE users want: the old nautilus interface (compact view, tree view sidebar, etc), the old control center, etc. But we like to work together on common things: use metacity, share applets, etc. And we have already removed a lot of duplicated and/or deprecated applications and libraries, so now the MATE base consist of very few packages. I think all of this is useful for both MATE and GNOME projects.Mar 9, 2013
+Stefano Karapetsas I should start another thread, the whole Mate/flashback/classic mode is probably worth another thread to discuss. But I'm happy that you're working with everyone in the GNOME eco-system, I think that is pretty important.Mar 10, 2013
+Olav Vitters What exactly are you targeting then? The desktop? It certainly doesn't feel like it. I don't even think the Gnome devs know their target audience anymore... They have some elusive goal that is unattainable. They're trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist, whilst not fixing the problem which does exist... Hence why they're losing users in droves. Here's a hint, people still want a desktop OS. A useful, powerful, desktop OS. Gnome is a broken toy OS, that tries to be a jack of all trades and master of none. It treats its users like idiots, and hinders them when it should be helping them.Mar 16, 2013
Excuse me +Sriram Ramkrishna , MATE is NOT dead. MATE 1.6 will be released within the next 2-4 weeks. Thank you.
In addition +Linus Torvalds if you want your "wobbly windows" back you can get them right here http://www.bitchx.ca/Image-FedoraMateCompiz.iso
+Linus Torvalds I have yet to see any acknowledgement of MATE from you. I am eagerly awaiting your acknowledgement of our hard work (mostly +Stefano Karapetsas and Perberos).Mar 20, 2013
+Keith Hill
IMO , xfwm4 + LXDE + pcmanfm + cairo-dock = best combo I've ever come across.
LXDE as usual is blazing fast and the real gem is pcmanfm which has all the features they've been culling from nautilus and is super snappy as the desktop app. It actually does a perfect compact view.
xfwm4 gives us all the compositor features we are so used to with gnome, without going overboard on the eyecandy.
Cairo-Dock is a great taskbar app (taskbars rule for productivity).Mar 27, 2013
OK folks. Closing out comments. If people want I can create another post regarding forks if people want to argue about it.Mar 27, 2013
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