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Guido van Rossum
Creator of the Python programming language.
Creator of the Python programming language.

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My son goes to school here. I know many of those kids.

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I was so impressed with this I am posting it to G+ and tweeting it.

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In the memory lane department: Doing some research on Base64 led me to RFC 3548 ( which references as [8] a post by Zooko; however the link seems to go to the wrong post. Viewing the month of those archives ( it's like all the usual suspects: Bram Cohen, +Gregory P. Smith, +Zooko Wilcox-O'Hearn...

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I was asked on Twitter why Python uses 0-based indexing, with a link to a new (fascinating) post on the subject ( I recall thinking about it a lot; ABC, one of Python's predecessors, used 1-based indexing, while C, the other big influence, used 0-based. My first few programming languages (Algol, Fortran, Pascal) used 1-based or variable-based. I think that one of the issues that helped me decide was slice notation.

Let's first look at use cases. Probably the most common use cases for slicing are "get the first n items" and "get the next n items starting at i" (the first is a special case of that for i == the first index). It would be nice if both of these could be expressed as without awkward +1 or -1 compensations.

Using 0-based indexing, half-open intervals, and suitable defaults (as Python ended up having), they are beautiful: a[:n] and a[i:i+n]; the former is long for a[0:n].

Using 1-based indexing, if you want a[:n] to mean the first n elements, you either have to use closed intervals or you can use a slice notation that uses start and length as the slice parameters. Using half-open intervals just isn't very elegant when combined with 1-based indexing. Using closed intervals, you'd have to write a[i:i+n-1] for the n items starting at i. So perhaps using the slice length would be more elegant with 1-based indexing? Then you could write a[i:n]. And this is in fact what ABC did -- it used a different notation so you could write a@i|n.(See

But how does the index:length convention work out for other use cases? TBH this is where my memory gets fuzzy, but I think I was swayed by the elegance of half-open intervals. Especially the invariant that when two slices are adjacent, the first slice's end index is the second slice's start index is just too beautiful to ignore. For example, suppose you split a string into three parts at indices i and j -- the parts would be a[:i], a[i:j], and a[j:].

So that's why Python uses 0-based indexing.

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Dropbox developer conference coming up! July 9, Fort Mason, San Francisco.

I am at my wits' end. In Office 2011 on the Mac, specifically Powerpoint, how do I turn off the automatic substitution of a smiley graphic when I type ":-)" ? I have turned off every single option under AutoCorrect and it still does this. :-(

Bad user experience with Google wallet and Google apis console: getting monthly bills for $0.00. Worse user experience: being threatened with suspension of the account when the credit card expires.

OH on python-dev: "This has come up before.  Classes have metaclasses (and _prepare_). Modules have loaders.  Poor, poor functions.  Because of the same concerns you've already expressed regarding the criticality of function performance, they miss out on all sorts of fun--inside their highly optimized box looking out at the other types showing off their cool new features all the time. It just isn't fair. :)"
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