Okay all you Googlers, who can help me fall in love with Android?
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- While you said you were going to leave hardware out of it, I think most of the issues you see are directly related to hardware and the fact that the OS on it is very outdated.
I wouldn't even try to address your list given the hardware you're on and the OS version it's running.
I know why you can't root it, but some of the things you want to change can be dealt with without rooting on ICS (Android 4.0.x) or above. It's a totally different experience.
#1 and #2 ICS addresses. You can disable apps and they will not run, you might not be able to uninstall everything without root, but disable from a functional standpoint achieves the same thing - the app will never run. I am not sure what other services and processes you are trying to kill, but perhaps you're fighting the tide here - Android IS a fully multi-tasking OS and that means it's MEANT to have things running in the background. Depending on what you are trying to kill it may just be that there's a good reason to have something running. Because you don't see the same thing on iOS doesn't make it bad for Android. iOS only has limited multi-tasking so you can't directly compare the two. Also, again, being a non-Nexus device you have carrier and vendor crapware on the device, a Nexus removes this from the start. If you must, though I am not terribly fond of them, you can get an automated task killer, and while things will still startup they will be killed as they do, it's a battle, but it can do what you want.
For #3 - sorry can't fix that. This is likely because Google knows Apple would sue them if they "copied" it. You may be able to find it in certain apps, but I'll doubt you'll get it in the OS - so you can blame Apple for that. See - patents are GOOD for innovation.
For #4 - Google now requires all hardware OEMs to support the Holo theme (from ICS+) even of they skin the phone - on your phone you are looking at an Android skin from LG, NOT Android, the OS from Google. If you had a Nexus device this would be different. By requiring Holo to be there, it can now allow app devs to code to that one standard and know they'll be supported even on a skinned device. It's not going to happen overnight, but Google is working to address it. Frankly I find most apps do things similarly enough that I can get through them but this should make it better. iOS better? Probably not. But that assumes you believe their process is better in the first place - and I don't ;) Google isn't going to vet every app for UI adherence, and frankly I like that app devs are free to explore a different style of UI if it suits their app - neither Apple, nor Google have gotten UI 100% "right" for all things. So yes you might see different styles in the apps but I LIKE that app devs have that option. Still, guidelines are there and Holo is there so things should start to converge around the Android look and feel over time.
Knowing the phone you have and why you have it, I will tell you straight up - you'll never love Android on that device, using it the way you are. If you actually WANT to like Android you need to commit to it, get a Galaxy Nexus (or one of the coming Nexus devices) and then make a new list of things that you miss/want. Right now it's like driving a BMW and hearing that Audi's are pretty nice, so you go to the scrapyard and get a 6 year old Audi, with frame damage, and no compression in one cylinder and think "Well, it's ok, but not like my BMW". If you want to test an Audi, you should go get a new one when your BMW lease is up. You can't go in half-assed and try to compare. But the sad fact is that what most people think of as "Android" is what you're getting on the LG - and that's a good bit away from what Android really is and will never let you understand why people are passionate about it.Aug 8, 2012
- Thanks for the commentsand . This post wasn't so much about choosing either, or any, OS as my single OS… or device for that matter. In my position I need to work with them all.
This post was more around trying to get Android to work the way I want. There are plenty of things that I like about Android, just like iOS. The reverse is true for both OSes as well.
As far as my go-to device, it will most likely continue to be iOS based since I have invested literally more than $1,000 in applications for that platform. But that doesn't mean I can't use other platforms and try to understand them.
For #2, I have task killers… the problem is that some of the processes simply return right after killing them. And I am not talking about critical system processes, I am talking about some carrier (Verizon) installed crapware. Also, some of the games I installed to play around have processes that provide notifications and connect to the network for whatever. The reason I want to be able to stop these from running is because I either don't use the apps or don't need the functionality they provide, and therefore I don't want them using up the precious battery.
To point, this probably has a LOT to do with the hardware/carrier situation than Android. So, for this device anyway, there may not be a lot I can do. So be it. I was eyeing that Nexus 7 anyway. ;-) In theory, that should provide a very "true" Android experience.Aug 9, 2012
- Getting a Nexus 7 will likely be a DRAMATIC shift in how you perceive Android. Worlds away from what you think of Android being now. It will make you immediately furious with what the OEMs and carriers do to ruin the experience.
With Android carrying 68% of mobile market share (at the moment - it'll shift when the next iPhone comes out, but should still retain majority share) I am hopeful Google can pressure the carriers and OEMs a bit to lightly skin (or not at all) their new phones and that they can push the Nexus concept much more broadly.
If things go to plan there should be several "Nexus" devices this year vs. the traditional single flagship device, and they will launch on multiple carriers at the same time (though likely Verizon will lag as they always do - just to be jerks). I think that could be the start of a really good shift for Android and Google in general.Aug 9, 2012
- Well, I would bet the problem between manufacturer/carrier crapware is pure greed. I have no doubt that Verizon is giving a higher subsidy to hardware manufacturers that add their crapware and make it impossible to remove.
I do hope that Google can lasso in some of this in the market and let their OS and features shine through.Aug 9, 2012
- BTW, for #3, Google doesn't have to "copy" Apple's UI design of allowing a user to tap the top of the screen to quickly get to the top of any screen. They could come up with their own unique way to do this and be just as successful. Hell, I personally can think of a few ways that are unique and just as easy to use to add this feature. It just needs to be universal in all apps.
Also, recently showed me at least one application that makes scrolling up and down much easier, but it is specific to one application. All I am saying is, this is a much needed feature in my eyes and shouldn't be that difficult to pull off.Aug 9, 2012
- It's not that hard to do on a per-app basis - Google provides easy "scroll to here" methods for anything that supports scrolling and if you choose, you can apply it to your app and scroll to the "top" with a touch or swipe. But as for implementing it in the OS - still think it's just playing with fire. Anything that we may think is unique "enough" like say - Samsung phones, Apple might not.
And Google has not added any kind of guidance for a feature like that (that I know of) to it's design guidelines - again, I suspect from fear of being called out saying "see you're just saying to copy Apple". I'm not bashing Apple or Google, just saying, I think that's why you won't ever see Google pushing "officially" anything that mimics some form of Apple functionality. It's there, people can do it, but by not endorsing it Google is never on the hook if Apple doesn't like it. Again, this makes me pissed that such frivolous patents get granted - scrolling, in any way shape or form is no longer unique or magical, neither is showing/hiding scrollbars, or anything else really involved with it - yet Apple has many patents for just those things. Insane.Aug 9, 2012
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