Still Looking for a Few Good Men (see my previous status)
In the meantime, I found this.
In the meantime, I found this.
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- Yes - but I'm not at all sure that setting up 4 rigid boxes is actually the best way to react to one rigid box.
The problem with "archetypes" is that people then insist on thinking that everything is an instance of one. You wouldn't have that problem if you called it "four common/frequent classes of students" or something else that didn't invite putting those who don't fit exactly in to a box anyhow.Mar 4, 2013
- I think the other challenge with archetypes is that sometimes people fall into positions or roles that are not truly their own. I often get shoved into a position of leadership within a group but I've never come up as a leader in any personality quiz or even archetype quiz. Ever. But time and time again, there I am finding myself asked my others to take charge. I even recently had a director of an organization ask me how we might monetize his newsletter. If I knew how to make money from my writing, I wouldn't be looking for a job or studying for a certification to get a job, believe me. Also, I can look at your archetypes and say that I might have seemed to fall somewhere between lurker and passive participant. But why? It was because I felt completely unsafe on the message boards as I saw people beginning to attack and disabuse one another. And I stopped taking the quizzes and/or watching the lectures when I realized that neither played any role in my final grade. Why listen to a bunch of Freudian nonsense and then pass a quiz on interpretations I felt were narrow and even insulting to an intelligent/creative reading of the primary text?
Even Jung couldn't break down the personality types into merely archetypes.Mar 4, 2013
- So it sounds like the biggest issue is the term archetype. My intention truly is to "capture common / frequent / emergent classes of students". My usage of "archtetype" was meant to capture that it was a pettern that captured the commonality but didn't imply to capture all the peculiarities of individuals, and that these patters arise from online patterns (lurkers is a well-accepted term).
I hadn't really intended to say that these are rigid definitions or the role must be the natural one for that individual. Hmm, interesting feedback - might need to improve language in follow-up.Mar 4, 2013
- I certainly didn't take exception to the idea altogether. Believe me, I don't waste my time with things that are too ridiculous to consider. But archetype may not be the right choice here or maybe it's a matter of your having a reader (yours truly) who adamantly avoided the teacher's lounge and stayed away from the gossip teachers passed around in favor of getting to know the students personally. Labels tend to be both superficial and narrow. Perhaps stereotypes would be a better choice of word even though it would sound more insulting than archetypes. Patterns of behavior, as you point out, is not so much an archetype which is more an internal personality type expressing itself in patterns of behavior. I see what you're getting at with lurker being a sort on online archetype. Perhaps that is what you are doing in your approach with MOOCs. What are the other "archetypes" of the internet? Troll. We definitely had those in the course I took and mentioned above. Newbie/Noob. The Early Adopters? The Hackers? I think you could be truly creative with this if you wanted to do so.Mar 4, 2013
- Okay. For The Hackers--these are the students who quickly figure out how to "game the system" and still get full credit. In the bad course I took this included plagiarized essays and "critiques" where a person just wrote out a list of number words (one two three four five . . .) until they reached the word count requirement. Early Adopters are obviously those who are curious about MOOCs and join in the fun to see what it's about. If they like what they experience, they stick around. If they do not, they move on fairly quickly. The Noob asks a lot of questions, seems lost in the simplest of ways, and maybe isn't really prepared for the course itself. Troll is the one who is there and actively taking the course but also making the experience of taking it less pleasurable for others, in particular the Noob who is ill-equipped to protect himself/herself. So the Troll writes a vicious comment or critique about how the Noob is too dumb or doesn't know English well enough to take the course and the Noob drops out, having learned nothing except that some people online are assholes and that the website hosting the MOOC is doing nothing to ensure that everyone taking the course has a safe and positive experience.Mar 4, 2013
- you're on a roll :}Mar 4, 2013
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