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Bill Morgan
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For what it's worth, I just responded to my weekly email from Logitech with a request for real information.  I suggested a public statement (or something... anything) to goad Samsung into action.

That's really one more than I intended.  I'm too disgusted with Samsung's handling of the upgrade and with their amazing lack of response to care much any more.   I'll just go quietly and pine for the days when I was a customer rather than a market segment.

If I get a response, and it's informative or entertaining, I'll post it.  Either way, this all goes into my "Sadder but Wiser" file.
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Never mind. I did get a message from Samsung support, I did respond, and I got a reply expressing horror and surprise. The message said the surprising and horrifying situation would be referred to the technical department right away.

That's it so far.

I ordered a newstyle keyboard rumored to work on the note 12.2 after the update. It is supposed to arrive by Thursday. With any luck, this will help everyone else by causing Samsung to unscrew their debacle by then, if Murphys law is in effect.

Samsung doesn't appear to be in a huge hurry to acknowledge the problem, let alone to take any action. If this $25.00 fix for MY problem works at all, I'm no longer in a hurry, either.

Thanks anyway, +Samsung Support USA​, but it's just too little, too late. Really, Samsung should do better. This has been pitiful. 
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So, hey. Is the current Samsung tablet lollipop upgrade fiasco newsworthy yet? Those of us with suddenly dead bluetooth keyboards (among other things) are now basically getting the "your call is very important to us" BS and hold muzak.

The sign are indicating samsung has placed the issue at the bottom of the priority list, assuming they have one. 
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I've heard about it... Let's see.... Here. I haven't done a hashtag search on Twitter, maybe someone has noticed there. Maybe if we call it the Thin multicore megapixel problem and compare it with some apple product? 
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Add me to the list of people with Logitech K810 keyboard death.  I can't begin the futility dance with Logitech until Monday.  With Samsung, after a lot of wasted time, I have at least started a complaint about getting bad information from tech support.

I love the tablet, or at least I did before the upgrade.  I hope this can be resolved without too much more unnecessary crap. 

I haven't checked to see if anything else is broken--but I'm already starting to think it might help to create as much noise as possible.  If the issue isn't resolved quickly, being terribly annoying seems to help with some companies.  I'd just rather not.
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Contacts?

Can someone tell me what it is that is so hard about making a contact manager/addresss book app? I've been looking for a long time, and it appears to me the most important feature everyone wants is emojii integration.

I use a tablet for productivity stuff mostly--and I thought the apps I tried were confused by multiple accounts, so I got all of my contacts in one account... that helped with some of the confusion, but not all of it. What I'm left with is overly "helpful" apps with lots of cool themes and wingdings and interfaces clearly designed for phones. Phones owned by people who live on FaceBook and don't edit their contacts much.

The one that came with my tablet (Galaxy Note Pro 12.2) sucks the least, but it sucks way more than it should. To my untrained eye, a contact manager appears to be a simple database manager. I must be missing something terribly complicated and dangerous.. can anyone help me out?

I'd list the ones I've tried, but it's pretty much the same as you get searching for contact apps in the Play Store.
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+Sarang Lakare My requirements must be rare or too hard to do. I LIKE the ability to deal easily (EASILY) with multiple accounts, but many apps do that... Not generally easily, but they do it. What I want is basically database management.

I want customizable data entry and display. That is the simplest and shortest way to say it. To further simplify it, I can say that none of the apps I have heard of and/or tried come close. All of them are phone centric, which might be the real problem. I want one for my tablet. Best of all would be a good one for the phone that I could customize for my tablet.

It seems we have established that this is either impossible, or not worth it for a market that may consist of one guy in New Mexico. 
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TOUCH SCREEN or what?

I'm shopping, and replacing a Transormer Prime. After abandoning me and my tablet, I'm afraid ASUS is dead to me, but all other options are open. I'd like some advice from folks who have switched to a Chromebook from almost anything else.

Most important to me is the terrificness of the keyboard-I do a lot of typing. I'm all wrapped up in Android, but it's not all that hard to unwrap, so Chromebooks are definitely high on my list-and I'm close to totally ignorant of the geek reality of the things.

I have two big questions, besides any gushing praise for particular keyboards.

First is about touch screens. Is there any particular reason to have one on a Chromebook? Do you miss anything without one? Bear in mind I only recently realized most of them didn't have a touch screen.

A larger question is what, other than lots of games, can an Android tablet do that a Chromebook can't. It appears to be almost nothing, but I'm almost totally ignorant.

Anything that will help me reduce that ignorance level will be appreciated!

Bill Morgan(way the hell out and gone in New Mexico)
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+Bill Morgan The keyboard on the new Lenovo 11e series is my absolute favorite. This is in comparison to the Acer C710, C720, HP11, HP14, and I daresay it even rivals that on Lenovo's T-series Thinkpads. So there's my bit of gushing praise for a keyboard.

In terms of the touchscreen, we are getting touchscreen devices for our HS 1:1 program, but this is only because there are specific applications we would like students to be able to use that are more effective with a touchscreen (certain drawing and annotation and whiteboarding apps, in particular). For general browsing and navigation, I find the trackpad swipe gestures to be more efficient than raising my hand up to the screen.

Of course, there's the looming potential of Android apps on Chromebooks that may usher in a significantly greater usage for touchscreens in the future.
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ONE MORE SHOT

Before I convert this thing into a picture frame or a coaster or something, I'd like to get the opinions of what's left of this community. Also looking for suggestion as to the replacements I should check out.

This is headed for the Lost Great Idea Burial Ground. There, with the Edsel, the Beta Max, the Segway, and all the rest, it can sit around and dream of what might have been. As with some of the others there, the Transformer Prime must take some of the blame itself, but can also spread the blame to completely avoidable things the rest of the company did. Makes me want to start attennding VFW meetings again, almost.

ANYway:
So I totally love this about my TP: The keyboard is freakin' wonderful. Also, it has ports and places for things and really does quite will getting along with whatever I plug in.

Then there's the bad news. The WiFi is so bad I suspect it is intentional sabotage. It is legendary in it's badness, and over time I have learned that it tends to make a lot of other stuff bad as well. I think it causes problems by trying really hard to be decent WiFi. Whatever it is, the breath-taking epic badness of it is apparently fatal and spreading. I can improve the experience a great deal by turning WiFi off--for movies, music, or to work on local copies of stuff. As long as I'm not doing anything important, then, it's fine. Sad.

The other legendary stuff is still true: GPS reeks, Bluetooth is somehow slower on th Prime than on any of my other stuff.

There's lag.ll There's freezes. Now that I've rooted and done some minor gooseing it also reboots from time to time. Just about any time I try to use this wonder device I thought had such incredible potential, I have to fix something.

The rest of the stuff is sort of neutral. Works just fine, nothing to write home about, though.

I have concluded that the stuff that sucks sucks so bad it overcomes the good stuff and that the tablet as a whole, therefore, sucks.

So I've done the tweaks (and I've posted them on this forum), and I've given up on the thing. Whatever else I do with it will be for entertainment only (ROMs, whatever) Unless, of course, someone has a way to heal it.

The newest Transformer I've heard of, the little $300 job with, apparently, this same great keyboard, only has one problem I am aware of: ASUS.

The way the company has dealt with the Transformer Prime problems tells me not to get any more of their stuff. I'm open to being talked out of that. I also remember that this was not a cheap device, and that I would still be pissed off it it had cost a third of what it did.

From what I've heard, they've just decided to cut and run from the mistakes and problems they had with the Prime, and to get on with life. They seem to be focused outside of the US...at least the customer service anectodes seem to be more positive everywhere but here. Regardless, while I understand all that and it's certainly their right and all that crap, I can't trust them any more--so to overcome that, this new tab will have to work super duper good right out of the box, and it will have to be compelling enough to get me to go back in there. Hard sell, but I sure do like what I like about this damn thing.


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hello well about my tf201 I went for about $ 250 (tablet + keyboard) in peru. on the inside of the bluetooh was this great work all that well, the wifi goes great while this close moden about 3 feet even I possess good signal and high speed (in the open) but if you place a wall in the middle ... bye bye wifi ... on the other hand goes great gps google detect my location without any problem forever. but the weather widget (stock) is the only one that captures me the location but no other third-party apps do a great ... now by the lag ... yes sir that is discussed but not going to settings and app for app (system) set disable (apps but zinio, tegra zone, etc) has improved a lot. then forget to websites chrome on android 4.1 has way too lag. very fast switching to dolphin and zero lag. well that's my experience if all games so you see I have worked with a couple of pulls but it has worked. all with the rom stock 4.1.1 no root jelly beam

greetings ;)
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I'm usually pretty easy going. I just have a sort of personal rule about making the same mistake over and over. So here's the mistake I'm going to stop making now.

Tablets, I think, could be truly wonderful productivity devices. I am sure of that. My mistaken thinking was that it was obvious. Now I see that for many reasons it is not only non obvious, it is damn near heresy. Tablets are for movies, games, and cats. Reviews and recent history proves this.

Reviews cover basic specs, then how well tabs play games and show movies. The tech press sometimes writes about using a tablet for basic work, but only as an experiment in a theoretical sense. I've only read of such crazy experiments with iPads of course. Why even bother with anything lesser?

A quick look at form factor shows the manufacturer intent. Some fairly large ones like the 12.2 note pros to see if there are enough like me to constitute a worthwhile market, then the old patterns made famous by the US auto industry back in the Detroit big iron days--chrome and fins and larger models because the public doesn't know what they really want. With tablets the most critical thing is to be thin.

This mess with the update sure puts keyboards in their place, doesn't it? What else was disabled by this evidently poorly tested update? Poorly tested is giving a great deal of benefit to a lot of doubt, here. Are there any game controllers broken? That would at least help the case a little. Maybe Bluetooth speakers? There must be.

The sad truth is still that nobody will really push for and champion a productivity tablet as long as "the public" really wants a big phone that plays cool games. Or until Apple makes one, of course. I'm not sure even apple could do it. I mean, all they really need is a decent keyboard, and no one seems to be able to do that. Maybe it makes them too thick.

I'll change my tune when I see one news story that takes this mess seriously, or I get one bit of communication from Samsung about it. Even though it's too late for the communication, I am easy going enough to fall for it.

I don't expect any of it, though. Samsung will fix this... Not as fast as for a washing machine maybe, but eventually. And I will use and enjoy this quite capable productivity device as long as possible.... Then I'll get whatever laptop looks good... Probably a very thin one from Apple. 
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My galaxy note phone and tablet have been tremendously productive tools that I use all the time for school, music, and work. I use them for productivity almost every day.

Everybody who has apple sees it and is wowed, wishing they had the s- pen and the cool features. I hardly every need to touch a pen or paper anymore. I have all my notes, music, construction quotes and diagrams with me in my tablet and phone, and I can annotate them just like with paper. I have Bluetooth keyboard and mouse as well, so if I am away from home and really need to get work done, I can set it up and go to town. The only thing that compares is the surface pro 3, cause it runs full windows os
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LOLLIPOP?

What's new and/or better after the update? My keyboard was disabled so I've been a bit distracted. It appears screenshots with the pen is gone or changed, but I haven't explored much more than that.

Has anyone found any super wonderfulness I've missed so far? 
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Performance is better and things are fairly stable. That's the good.

Broken Logitech Bluetooth keyboards, pen annotation functions requiring Air Command instead of being able to use a button press on the screen, and the ported Toolbox feature may crash Settings when trying to access it if you don't reset after updating.
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Samsung upgrade ate my keyboard.

I just got the lollipop update on my galaxy note 12.2, and it stopped recognizing my Logitech K810 keyboard.

This is a warning. I have done a factory reset and all the obvious stuff. Tomorrow I take it to Best Buy for a downgrade.

Samsung appeared totally surprised by this. I certainly was. Be careful.

I'll update if possible...I really hate the on screen keyboard.
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So how about having Martin Sargent do a weekly show? You could cancel it each week just to be consistent.

Just a suggestion...
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KEYBOARDS?

I'm about to dump a lousy tablet with a great keyboard for an Android tablet, most likely a Pro, with no keyboard. I'm scared.

I will be using the keyboard a lot. All that is available with Samsung tablets are Bluetooth, so it's another battery to keep charged, another wireless connection to deal with, and another thing to carry around. The one I've seen for the Pro is also a cover, so that's good. I'm looking for good news about the other things.

Is anybody out there having a good experiece with this keyboard, or any Bluetooth keyboard. The only one I've ever used is the thing that my wife uses with her iPad. it's dodgy, there's lag sometimes, the layout sucks, and well, it's on an iPad so I'm already biased against it.

I need some positive vibes or serious warnings, please.

Bill
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Made post (review) with pics now - as promised 😇
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