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Sir Ian McKellen at the anti-Trump march in London yesterday.

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The next Dr Who?
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I've read a lot recently from members of the Abrahamic faiths that their god is somehow "different" to humans when it comes to decisions. Apparently his ways are not our ways and he is not bound by our ideas or morality. He can order the deaths of men, women, and children (Numbers 31:17). He can order the slaughter of babies (1 Samuel 15:3). He can deliberately kill all the first born sons (Exodus 12:29) or just send bears to do his dirty work (2 Kings 2:23-24).

But he doesn't approve of abortion, apparently.

You can do this for any action apparently undertaken by the god of Abraham. Murder is wrong, except when this god does it or orders it. Slavery is okay, rape is okay, but morality comes from their god. It seems inconsistent to me but apologists explain this by saying that their god is mysterious. William Lane Craig says that the murder of thousands of people is good because they are brought closer to his god as a result rather than being allowed to live in wickedness.

This leaves us with a quandary if we accept this claim rather than dismiss it utterly. If the god of Abraham's ways are not our ways, if this god's works and actions are a mystery, as is claimed, then what can we know about this god? What demonstrable, repeatable, actionable knowledge can we have about the god of Abraham?
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The Gnostics were so dismayed about the portrayal of the traditional Abrahamic God and differences from Jesus's teachings that they came up with an explanation of the OT being a DemiUrge creator instead of the overall Absolute Being.

I was just reading a book by Karen Armstrong last night, where she brings up that Yahweh may have been a warrior god in the old Israel (pre Babylon) polytheistic beliefs.

I am more inclined to think it's a remnant of the early Hebrew culture and their struggle to keep a small mountain people identity among the much larger and older cultures of the period.
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Knowledge about god

I've read a lot recently from members of the Abrahamic faiths that their god is somehow "different" to humans when it comes to decisions. Apparently his ways are not our ways and he is not bound by our ideas or morality. He can order the deaths of men, women, and children (Numbers 31:17). He can order the slaughter of babies (1 Samuel 15:3). He can deliberately kill all the first born sons (Exodus 12:29) or just send bears to do his dirty work (2 Kings 2:23-24).

But he doesn't approve of abortion, apparently.

You can do this for any action apparently undertaken by the god of Abraham. Murder is wrong, except when this god does it or orders it. Slavery is okay, rape is okay, but morality comes from their god. It seems inconsistent to me but apologists explain this by saying that their god is mysterious. William Lane Craig says that the murder of thousands of people is good because they are brought closer to his god as a result rather than being allowed to live in wickedness.

This leaves us with a quandary if we accept this claim rather than dismiss it utterly. If the god of Abraham's ways are not our ways, if this god's works and actions are a mystery, as is claimed, then what can we know about this god? What demonstrable, repeatable, actionable knowledge can we have about the god of Abraham?
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+Julian Gold yeah, well, I wish he had denied it more forcefully........ 
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No, this will get you fired. Keep it in your pants till you get home.

Don't even think about this is relation to Donald Trump as he starts his new job. It'll give you nightmares.
Ever since the smoking ban, office workers have struggled to find an excuse to skive off for fifteen minutes relieve stress at work. But no more. Need a healthy, enjoyable, and best of all, free alternative break? Try masturbating.
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+Jason Horton what pun? 
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This is truely creafive thinking
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Typo or not?
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He's a wanker and Fox are welcome to the slimy little tit.
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The government has sunk £60 million of our taxes into Southern Trains to compensate passengers for the continuing strikes. Isn't it time, as we're paying for it anyway, to commit to public ownership of the railways again. The experiment with privatising the train service has failed. 
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Do you think that it is racism holding back Muslims in the workplace or religious practices (or something else)? As an employer would you rather not provide space for regular prayers, cater to a religious group's dietary requirements, alter your dress code, etc or is it worthwhile to have a diverse workforce?

Personally I wouldn't employ anyone who brought up religion in the job interview and I wouldn't ask. I don't think it's appropriate. Nor would I employ someone unwilling to work occasional weekends and evenings or anyone who would cause problems for existing staff. Religion shouldn't be a barrier to these requirements normally but if they were I'd rather not employ them. 
Muslims are held back in the jobs market, the Government admits — saying universities and job centres could play a big role in tackling inequality. Britain’s 2.7 million Muslims were found to have the highest levels of disadvantage in finding work and face significant pay gaps compared with those who identify as Christian.
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He was kind enough to show me he read the comment, though I don't think he is reading comments
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