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This is the thread for talking about Cabin in the Woods! HERE BE SPOILERS
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So, you just got back from seeing it?
Yes indeed. About half an hour ago. Already crawling about for info.
You mean criticism. Yeah, I generally do that, though most reviews refuse to talk too much about it because of the nature of the thing is best to be experienced first hand. Any in depth criticism doesn't seem like it will come until later.
So what IS the deal with Weaver's cameo? Because she's done a lot of sci-fi/horror/camp but never a slasher, right? I mean unless you count the first Alien (which I am inclined to).
No, pah, I have next to zero interest in criticism for it at this stage. More directorial/writing/casting decisions.
Honestly, I didn't think anything of it beyond here is the character meant to deliver the info dump that explains what's going on for the thick in the audience. To me she was simply the director of the facility making one last plea to save the world.

Didn't even recognize her as Weaver until I saw her name in the credits.
Me neither. I never seem to recognize her till the credits. But once her name popped up it seemed such a HUGE genre shout-out.
For me this is the best read only horror movie that I've liked in recent years mainly because it doesn't insult me. It also isn't mean, which a lot of modern quote, unquote horror movies decend into being.

While many point out it takes swipes at its genre brethren, in particular I feel it has its sights set on Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning. Not just the primary horror enemies, but in most of the tonality and looks of the characters. But where as Texas Chainsaw was just mean and pointless, this movie felt consequential. The fates of the characters mattered to me and I wasn't just waiting for the movie to be over unaffected beyond the sinking pit in my stomach that I'm drinking pure bile.
Eric, I'm your friend, not the Sunday movie column.
And what is "read-only" supposed to mean? It's the most openly pastiche genre film we've had since Hot Fuzz, it's built completely on remix, it's meant for cutting up and dicing into fine oozy bits. Like that zombie.
Then I have no idea what to say because Cabin in the Woods spends most of its time as a genre riff and commentary.
Ye-es but you seem to be saying there is no deeper meaning to the choices they made.
I meant read only as in read "best" to mean "only." I really dislike the horror genre in generally now-a-days because it's just mean and pointless.
Quite honestly the Weaver infodump is a failed moment. If they wanted a real reveal they should've gotten someone from Cannibal Holocaust. Or at least Jamie Lee Curtis. They're getting at the heart of some serious Stoppardian genre tickling and I just don't know why it goes out on the note it does.
Yeah funny how a movie about the world ending seems less mean-spirited than the rest of what's on the market.
Not at all, just started off in what I liked best about the movie, in that it gets right what pretty much most other movies in the genre don't bother to do. It gives me a reason to pay attention because I'm invested in the victims, I mean characters. In most others, the splatterfest is killing time until the lights come up. Tonality counts for a lot too. Whereas even if a movie has likable characters, if the tone of it is just mean than I get pulled out and stop paying attention.

Cabin in the Woods falls into neither of these pitfalls.
I didn't give a crap about any of the victims honestly, and there especially seemed nothing in the set-up to make me care. Love the prologue up to the title splash though, it's right out of the 70s.
I think Weaver was in there more to get one final antagonist so they could wrestle over a gun. Because as a plot point its much more useful than the info dump. She doesn't say anything that we couldn't surmise or even needed to know.

You know I thought Cannibal Holocaust was older than it is and was about to ask if anyone was still alive who was in it. Though I'm not sure what cultural cache any actor from that movie would have to a modern audience. It is known much more for the disturbing nature of it and controversy upon its release.
Yeah that intro really felt West Wing to me, helped by Bradley Whitford's presence.
I think you're underestimating the Weaver moment completely, but I can see I'm not persuading you there.

I consider Cannibal Holocaust an important point in the timeline for the "punishing the young" theme the Director talks about, but really any last girl from a legendary slasher would have done the trick. And not that Weaver isn't a last girl by all rights. It's just kind of a mystifying choice. I wonder if Curtis was unavailable.
I thought Curtis had actually retired for the most part. Her filmography reveals that might be the case.

I can see what it was trying to reflect on a thematic level, but on a functional level it seems superfluous.

Also, if the Old Gods were below. Who was giving the order from above? The same people who disabled the cave-in explosive?
I'm pretty sure reading the film functionally is not the point with something this reliant on genre savviness.

And yeah the above/below thing confused me as well.
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