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No response from theists on my Job story so here is a more digestive one:

God asks Abraham to kill his son, and Abraham like a dummy was going to and God thought this was wonderful.
Correct me if I'm right but is murder not forbidden by Him? Why would he be so proud that Abraham was going to carry out this instruction to kill a little child in cold blood? Was it because the word kill was exchanged for sacrifice? Should he not have rather been disgusted?

They say Muslim extremists are not Muslims but can you say they are not killing for God after all are they not going by Abraham's example of carrying out God's direct instructions?

Just a quickie :)
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I somewhat remember in their holy book jebuz says hate your family and put god above everything else so god accepts murder if it for showing that you love him more than you family 
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Apparently God of the Bible is into a bit of gambling.

Here's how the story goes, please note might not be exact with original after all who cares:

Santan, God's enemy comes over to god and puts a wager of 2 universes on the table. Tells god Job (god's favourite human being) is only nice to god because god gives him everything he wants (which makes lots of sense, I too would), Santan tells god if he stepped back a bit and just watch he (santan) can make Job hate god. God goes like....naaaaa!! So they have the bet and God steps back and santan starts operation "Get
Job to Curse God". Takes his money, kills his animals, his family (apparently they are just Job's property so their individual lives don't matter much to God), santan totally goes crazy but Job stays faithful and doesn't curse God.
"seeee" God says to santan and gives back to Job more than he had lost.
"you know that was totally pointless right?" santan says to god..."don't you have that all knowing power?, you could've just told me the end and you being God and can't lie I would've believed you, but it was fun doing a number on you favourite guy."

And the moral of the story is, when your worse enemy comes and wants to wager on your loved ones life give him a punch in the face. 
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bible-god often comes across as bipolar due to his character being written by various different authors over a period spanning centuries.

in job, he is careless about lives and willing to throw them away to prove a point.

what i find funny is that religious people often think this and another similar narrative, jonah to be "historic" rather than what they are meant to be: just stories made up to teach children the values of a specific society that existed thousands of years ago.
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The concept of "original sin" is a very ancient and primitive ideology based on ignorance, another key point which indicates how god is man-like.
People will often be negative towards children if they don't like their parents, it happens all the times even in our modern societies. Is this as a result of us being made in God's image?....... <-------- is a trick question!

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+Sacerdotus Sacerdotvs it's always the straw man. God himself is a straw man. 
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So having a chat about Noah and how he managed to get all the animals on the boat and the Christian says the worst thing ever.....Pangaea, the single continent so the animals all walked to the boat. I almost split my ribs.
Bring Pangaea anywhere near the Bible and it's rips everything apart. Wanted to share the laugh
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Lol ! I just don't get it.
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I always ask believers which came first, science or religion. It is a very important question imo because if science did come first, if our ancestors did not place an invisible beings at the gaps it would've been a totally different world. 
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+Ryan Todd You will have to provide links to peer reviewed papers on the evolutionary claims.   I know they have found different sapiens interbreeding, but that has no barring on natural selection or the evolutionary time line.

Those are only details about who was together and how much of this we have, etc.

The genes shows us that anyways.

You can send me the links to the cave paintings, because everything I've found can be explained naturally.

If it's not peered reviewed, I don't bother, because otherwise, I would end up believing in all kinds of things and conspiracies.

Peer reviewed or it is not allowed.
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Churches must pay taxes, churches not wanting to pay taxes is a clear proof they pick and choose what they want from the Bible because Jesus made it clear for them to pay taxes..."give unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar" and I think it is one of these things the State has to demand from churches. 
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+Lee Douglas You do have a point there. I thought it was more individuals that lobby. But that's basically the use thing
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This is funny!!!
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Apparently God of the Bible is into a bit of gambling.

Here's how the story goes, please note might not be exact with original after all who cares:

Santan, God's enemy comes over to god and puts a wager of 2 universes on the table. Tells god Job (god's favourite human being) is only nice to god because god gives him everything he wants (which makes lots of sense, I too would), Santan tells god if he stepped back a bit and just watch he (santan) can make Job hate god. God goes like....naaaaa!! So they have the bet and God steps back and santan starts operation "Get
Job to Curse God". Takes his money, kills his animals, his family (apparently they are just Job's property so their individual lives don't matter much to God), santan totally goes crazy but Job stays faithful and doesn't curse God.
"seeee" God says to santan and gives back to Job more than he had lost.
"you know that was totally pointless right?" santan says to god..."don't you have that all knowing power?, you could've just told me the end and you being God and can't lie I would've believed you, but it was fun doing a number on you favourite guy."

And the moral of the story is, when your worse enemy comes and wants to wager on your loved ones life give him a punch in the face. 

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The concept of "original sin" is a very ancient and primitive ideology based on ignorance, another key point which indicates how god is man-like.
People will often be negative towards children if they don't like their parents, it happens all the times even in our modern societies.

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The emotions point of Greg and the selfish survival point of Jonathan kind of come together.  If the universe is not fundamentally loving, you have to kill, steal, compromise, whatever, in order to survive, but then if you have extra resources, you could choose to be moral.  The traits that lead to survival have more to do with the imposition of your will on the universe (and other people).  Thought is given primacy over emotions.  Faked emotions work pretty good, because the will can control them.  Real emotions, where something else touches you deeply, those aren't trustworthy.  You'll be a sucker if you let those get to you, at least, so much as to take supremacy over the will and its thinking.  If you live in a universe that's not loving, you are mired in original sin (i.e., the programming of selfish survival).  If that's your paradigm (loveless universe), that's what you live and die by, and everything else is just "nice stuff", rather than necessary stuff.  So, if you live and die by the loveless universe, it would make more sense to explain emotions in terms of, it's all biochemistry or some kind of survival mechanism or whatever, instead of, emotions are as good as or even better at understanding reality than thought.
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I'm sure even the forefathers of religion would be laughing their butts off to know people still believe in the shit they made up because their knowledge was quite limited and they had to come up with stuff since leaders are expected to know stuff
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The Zoroastrians who were the first scientists and monotheists before the Jews...whose god was the Ahura Mazda, the "bringer of light and intelligence"...said that Religion was the Big Lie... 

In 2500 BC, the Zoroastrians were as close to atheism as an ancient society could get...were then murdered and nearly destroyed in the 11th century AD by the Moslems. 
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I absolutely love how when you ask Christians how they know the Bible is true and it's the word of God they say "the Bible says so", never wears out. No better way to verify an information!
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+JASON RAMOS yes, I would love to enter the Vatican vaults to see what they are hiding. I bet Christians fear of what could be inside. 
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Neil is on FIRE.

Stephen Colbert Interviews Neil deGrasse Tyson MU…: http://youtu.be/hw8XWC6eJuE

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Neil deGrasse Tyson is a force of nature.
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