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William Benfer
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What if you knew that an alien race was in orbit around our planet... waiting for us to allow them to show up? Invisible, silent and undetectable... but there. And all we would have to do is collectively say "yes" to them coming here, for their ships to be visible and for them to show themselves. Or, collectively say "no" for them to just go away, as if they weren't even really there. Would you say "yes" to them for their arrival, or "no?" What if you were told that they could bring the entire world together in peace and universal harmony? Would you say "yes" to that, or would your fear of the unknown get the better of you? Maybe you are a religious person and you would fear that they were false profits or demons or God Himself, returning for the rapture? Well, to take away religious fears, let's propose that this race of beings said that they were searching for the Creator of all things as well, just like we are? And, what if they said that they were not God's themselves or that they were not even lesser/demi-Gods but just beings from another world, time, place, dimension, what have you... no different than us other than appearance... would you invite them into our world? Would you ask them to save our race from destroying itself/each other? What if they said that the universe was kept together through harmonious love and joy and so they believed that these feelings must be important to the creator of all things? Would you fear them or would you accept them? What if they could promise that there would eventually be no fear on the planet... and that violence in the world would eventually be erased? And it wouldn't be THEM that did these great acts... but us. United in the knowledge that we are not alone, we are not the only ones questioning our existence and that love and happiness is sought by other creatures in the Universe and through this knowledge, we would come together as a unified race known only as humanity. No longer dismissed by others for our skin color or our religious beliefs. No longer made an outsider because of the size of our homes or the model of our cars. And, being rich was something that would be referencing the size of your friends, family and loved ones, and not the size of your bank account. Would you turn away such an offer? Would you say "no" or "yes" to their visitation?

I know what I would say, or do, or feel. But I am wondering what most people would say. Would you say "yes," come here, or "no," go away?
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I don't quite get the question. So I'm going to spoil the fun and say NO.

Let's wait a while. 
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Why are we the only species on the planet that fights natural order and reflects on the unknown. Or, are we the only ones here on earth that do this? Does an ant sometimes break away from getting the queen her food? Breaking from the natural order of its life only to sit and ponder why it is there, how it is there and what the meaning of their existence is within the realm of all things? What if they don't care? Should we? And, what if we, the ant and the human, really don't exist at all?

http://voices.yahoo.com/do-we-exist-philosophical-standpoint-existence-373555.html
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+Lee Douglas I have to say, I have read a few of your other comments on other threads and you seem to always want to start an argument. I don't like to feed into this type of social media but I do realize that it is popular... especially since we don't have the awkward feeling of being face to face, which seems to squash a lot of this type of rhetoric.

With that said, I absolutely read your first post and I answered it to the best of my ability. I still stand by my initial opinion that changing your environment to suit your needs is not part of the natural order. Chalk it up to a difference of opinion and perhaps we should leave it at that. And, again, this has nothing to do with what I was really getting at in the first place. Think 'consciousness' instead of 'tangible.' Or, in layman's terms, self awareness versus touch. If this still does not fulfill your curiosity of my opinions, than I guess you will have to remain unsatisfied, and I apologize for that. Other than that, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. 
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Went to see Man of Steel with my buddy yesterday and thought that every movie that has come out of Hollywood the last few years has bad endings. It was no exception with the new Superman film either. Awesome beginning and cool way of telling the alien part of the story but the end, once again, seemed forced and trite. The thing that surprised me the most was the referencing to Jesus Christ. Very obvious at times and weirdly blatant. And, since when did the house of El symbol also mean hope? I guess that is what we need to hear, maybe? That there is some Jesus-like alien coming to save us all from ourselves? Maybe we should just realize that these are works of fiction and that we are placing a lot of our "hope" in fictional promises. Maybe instead of waiting for the alien savior to come and save the human race, we should all take responsibility and realize that the only thing that will save us from us is us. Once we do that and stop placing all our bets on mythical figures, we will become a better race for it and hope will be taken, not given. Or maybe it was just a movie and I should calm down.
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+Dan Eastwood interesting! Superman is a hell of a lot better at getting results than Jesus Christ, that's for sure.
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Because I have a mind that tends to find mathematical theory, historical study and simple logic as trumping anything based in pure faith, I have always sided with evolution over creationism. But, what if the two sides could be connected somehow? I pose this question based in the universal pursuit of truth and find that ruling out an idea, as illogical it may seem, may actually hinder that pursuit. There must be some common ground where both sides can be found to say, "maybe."

Something that I feel connects creationism (or the concept of a spiritual, magical or mystical beginning of all things solely from the will or whim of a deity or supernatural being) with evolution (or the slow and gradual development of the human race, and all creatures, through natural selection) is the Big Bang. If you believe in creationism then you must concede that the big bang could be a scientific phenomena that has mistakenly been perceived as spiritual, magical or mystical in origin. And, if you believe in evolution and the process of natural selection, then this event would be the starting point in the history of all living things. And thusly would allow the existence of something, deity or no, that existed before this event. A oneness, if you will, of all things, wrapped up in a ball of matter and energy that felt the need to explode. Even the most staunch Evolutionary minds must concede that basing this oneness in pure scientific terms can't explain away it's purpose or origin. Kinda like the chicken and the egg theory. If it was just pure energy, then how and why did it get there? Follow?

Perhaps astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson can explain it better in this very beautiful video of his explanation of the most astounding fact that he has found through his studies in his field. 

The Most Astounding Fact - Neil deGrasse Tyson

We humans once thought that the earth was flat, or the center of the universe, or the center of our solar system and could not fathom why anything else would be conceivable. These were all found to be of a perception that was ignorant of the facts. And once these facts were uncovered, we could no longer fathom anything other than that which is fact. It is my hope, that one day, the origin of the big bang will be discovered and may even give us a true glimpse of who, or what, God is. Or, if "He" even exists at all. Maybe the discovery of the origins of the Big Bang will just pose more new and exciting questions that we couldn't fathom before knowing all the facts of it's origins. 
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As an atheist, I cringe at the attempt to merge a creator with the beginnings.  It is (once again) applying the supernatural to the gaps in our knowledge.  

As a naturalist, I see life - including the Big Bang - as part of a cycle.  We admit in mathematics to the existence of the concept of infinity.  I simply apply the concept of infinity to the cycles of life, evolution and creation.  The Big Bang is our best understanding of the "beginning" of our time.  Instead of adding the supernatural as a starter, I see this Universe as continuously expanding, conglomerating back into the singularity and starting over again on timescales unfathomable.

I cannot defend the statement of "conglomeration back into the singularity", but I like to think Black Holes at the center of  galaxies assist in the process.  

What we know currently is based on observation and extrapolation that everything is moving away from everything (on a cosmic scale), and therefore will continue to do so.  

Maybe we are too early in the process of cosmic evolution, but could it be possible that eventually the Black Holes swallowing the surrounding matter will gobble all matter in the surround?  Could we eventually have a Universe devoid of matter with only Black Holes remaining?  Would the Black Holes then act upon each other to coalesce, returning to a singularity?  Could the exact volume of known and unknown matter, once gathered trigger the next Big Bang?  

Why not?
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Had to share this... Happy Holidays
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Why is there "something" and not "nothing?"
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+Elron Steele Well said.
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Right down my alley.
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Working with the USGS, NASA and TIME, we're releasing more than a quarter-century of images of Earth taken from space, compiled for the first time into an interactive time-lapse experience so you can get a stunning perspective on the changes to the Earth’s surface over time.

These images were collected as part of an ongoing joint mission between the USGS and NASA called Landsat. Their satellites have been observing earth from space since the 1970s. Using Google Earth Engine technology, we sifted through 909 terabytes of data to make this historic archive of earth imagery available online. 

Explore this global, zoomable time-lapse map as part of TIME's new Timelapse project: www.time.com/timelapse (a preview in GIF form is below). 

Read more in our blog: http://goo.gl/1M1lQ
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In the case of the Abrams tank, there's a bipartisan push to spend an extra $436 million on a weapon the experts explicitly say is not needed. "If we had our choice, we would use that money in a different way," Gen. Ray Odierno, the Army's chief of staff, told The Associated Press this past week.
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