Seems like #gnome is reconsidering its controversial stance on Suspend / Shutdown (making Shutdown visible by default again). I'd prefer such a change, one less extension to install ;) As much as I got the original argument in relation to laptops, on desktops just having a suspend entry is a bit painful (though you are getting used to pressing Alt to reveal Shutdown pretty quickly, still...)
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+John Tamplin The problem is, there is no such thing as a consistent "user feedback". For instance I'm a long time gnome user too, and I heavily disagree with lot's of the "feedback" / "improvement" suggestions that people come up in posts. So there basically is no way to make everyone happy (besides the simple truth that trying to make everyone happy is the worst way possible to design anything). Listening to people's feedback involves filtering their opinions too.May 10, 2012
So do you not agree that there was a massive shift in "this is the way we are going to do it, we know better than the users" with Gnome3 compared to previous versions?
Obviously, you don't go implement every suggestion you receive but it seems to me Gnome3 showed marked disregard for what most of the users actually want. Maybe my sample is skewed, but every single friend I know using Gnome3 would gladly switch back to Gnome2 if it were easy and supported. Some have already switched to other options.May 10, 2012
+John Tamplin I really don't see a shift in that form. There definitely is a shift in trying to get a more unified user experience, so maybe what you experience is a result of that.
About personal experiences: I just talked to someone today who told me out of the blue how fabulous GNOME Shell is, but I guess we all have our skewed samples ;)May 10, 2012
+Florian Müllner btw, just checked: with accountsservice from git "switch user" and "log out" are gone :)May 10, 2012
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+John Tamplin It couldn't be otherwise. In general, people don't like change. Its like the phrase usually attributed to Henry Ford: "If I'd asked people what they wanted, they would have asked for a better horse." GNOME 2 users didn't ask for GNOME 3, but the GNOME's mission asked for innovation.May 10, 2012
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