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大変お待たせしました。編集版のご紹介。


【コミュニティのご案内】
もしこの投稿をきっかけにイングレスを取り巻くストーリーに興味をお持ちになられましたら、是非リュケイオン・コミュニティにご参加ください。

Project LYCAEUM Community 【日本語】: https://plus.google.com/communities/114895616717291642123


また、ストーリーの登場人物が設立した英語版コミュニティもあります。こちらではリュケイオンよりもディープな議論がなされています。

Operation Essex Community 【英語】: https://plus.google.com/communities/117368337781687210813
2017年 11月4日 EXO5大阪アノマリー、直前。
Ingressストーリー調査コミュニティ(非公式) Project LYCAEUM は、Investigate: Ingress ( http://investigate.ingress.com/ ) 執筆者 P.A. Chapeau 氏に独占インタビューを行う機会を得ました。

情報の速報性を優先して、かねて未編集版を公開しておりましたが、この度あらためて、より見やすい編集版を作成しました。ぜひご覧ください。

※未編集版: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZmwQ_Qg3sbTlhAJdS5ikh2TXLQLUgso5


快くインタビューを引き受けてくださった
P.A Chapeau a.k.a. +H. Richard Loeb
をはじめ、

Nianticスタッフ
+Masashi Kawashima
+Kento Suga
+Chiaki Narusawa
Scot Frank
他皆様

場所を提供いただいた駱駝屋様: https://ameblo.jp/coffee-rakudaya/

インタビューの進行に協力いただいた
+井伊狐狸

同行していただいた
madderColor +이영주

未編集版から文字起こししていただいた
+Gerald Wolf


以上の方々をはじめとする、たくさんの方々の協力をもって実現しました。
重ねてお礼申し上げます。


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EXO5Osaka Interview Team

リーダー・インタビュアー: +YutoRaion
コーディネーター・撮影: tabineco
撮影・編集: +Tadashi Namizaki
質問調整・翻訳・字幕: +MailEater, +後日明

Operation: Essex / Project LYCAEUM Community 調査員各位

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IT Tech-East IQ Tech-East
ですね😅
MUFGでのXM研究が終了し、MUFGのポータルネットワークが消滅するという情報と共に、MUFGが開発した驚異的な技術の結晶「MUFG カプセル」をIT Tech-East が買収するというニュースが届いた。今後「MUFG カプセル」はポータルネットワークを通じて「クアンタムカプセル」として配布される模様だ。
また、同時期に収集した情報によると、Visur社ではこれまで「AXAシールド」に使われていたテクノロジーを「イージスシールド」に移植し、同様にポータルネットワークを通じて配布するとのことだ。
新しいXMオブジェクトの性能に関してはまた詳細は不明である。

MUFGのXMに関する研究に貢献したエージェントに感謝する。
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AXAシールドが「イージス・シールド」に置き換わり、MUFGカプセルは「クアンタム・カプセル」に置き換わる模様。
新たなアイテムが出るようになるんじゃなくて、完全に置換?
My sources at Visur and IQTech-East just shared some interesting news with me. At Visur, the technology being used to power the highly desired 'AXA Shield' has been ported to a new XM object called the 'Aegis Shield.' And over at IQTech-East, Akira's…

investigateは半ばpush通知を利用できるから良いんだけども、ingress.reportは完全にpull型なのよねぇ…

友達の用事の付き添いで遠方へ➝ポータル全然生えてない➝申請しちゃろ➝そういえばストリートビュー撮ると吉なんだっけ➝いざ撮影➝(アプリが画像を変換)➝僕&友達「しゅごいいいい」

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調査ジャーナリスト「ボグダノヴィッチさん。カルヴィンとフィリップスの死後、NIAのアーカイブとIQTへアクセスできるようになったというのは本当ですか?」

デヴラ「事実です。ブロツワフ以降私はカルヴィンによって締め出されていましたが、今ではアクセスできます。これはレジスタンスにとって大きな変化をもたらすでしょうし、そのことを私はたいへん嬉しく思います。 …行かなくては」
An Investigator uncovered this -- captured during the recent #EXO5 Anomaly in San Francisco -- a change in Devra's access to critical information archives in a post-Calvin era? Something Hank Johnson opened up for his long-time friend? Is this motive for…

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記事の最後で新たに提示された動画…

司アキラ「ミスティ・ハンナ…なぜ彼女がここにいるの?彼女は信用出来ないわ…全くもって信用出来ない。」
A number of interesting people (and myself) were present at #EXO5 San Francisco. Investigators captured a number of moments on camera. I'm continuing to uncover more... here's what I've got so far:

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台北にてハンクへXFインタビューが行われていた模様!
#EXO5跨陣營 Hank Johnson訪談
#EXO5 Cross Faction Interview with Hank Johnson
(Manuscripts in both Chinese and English)

訪談影片連結(Interview Video Link):https://youtu.be/wdPDfsRI1tE

摘要:十二月二日,台北松菸的#EXO5主場異變,反抗軍和啟蒙軍探員有機會跨陣營合作對美國國家安全局新任的局長Hank Johnson進行了一場專訪,且聽Hank分享他對國家安全局的未來以及諸多相關事情的看法。

TL;DR: Investigators from both RES and ENL took the opportunity to hold a cross-faction interview with Hank Johnson, the newly onboarded Director of N.I.A., while he was in Taiwan for #EXO5 Anomaly. Hank speaks of his goal regarding the future of N.I.A. and many other related subjects.

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人物
+Hank Johnson,前特種部隊成員,考古學家,科學家、著名的XM高感者,13MAGNUS的領袖,應該也是原Niantic計劃中,橫跨兩個陣營,擁有最高人氣與最多支持者的一員。Hank最近剛剛接任了國家安全局局長的位置。這是很難得的機會,Hank在前往中國出差的路上,決定參加台北松菸的#EXO5異變主場,我們也很謝謝Hank Johnson局長接受我們的邀約進行這場跨陣營的訪談,希望大家喜歡今天的內容。

當天

2017年12月2日,#EXO5第二個異變日的早晨,台北松菸,都會中綠地的清新和臉上細細碎碎清涼如同XM一般的雨滴,我們與Hank Johnson相約在離大戰會場不遠的小餐廳,從接近餐廳開始,路上的行人異常的少,隨時有一種被注視的感覺,每個採訪小組成員都知道我們已經進入國家安全局設立的管制範圍了,如果說餐廳裡面進出的人員都是國安局探員,我們應該也不會感到驚訝。

開場

Adam:您好,恭喜你成為NIA的局長,歡迎來到台灣,我是@AdamTWN,請不要客氣叫我亞當就好。感謝您百忙之中接受我們的邀請。
Hank:很高興來到這裡,這是我第一次到台灣,我很喜歡這邊的人情和環境。
Adam:我是台灣的調查員,在Formosa Resistance(https://plus.google.com/u/1/+FormosaResistance)的社群媒體,負責故事線的翻譯與整理,希望能夠讓更多的探員了解,在Ingress的掃描器之後,還有許多深層的故事。
Hank:謝謝,這的確很重要,而且這些事情遠比想像中的深很多。
Adam:而且你現在落在這整個故事最深的地方(笑)
Hank:我接手這個位置以後,發現這個所謂的兔子洞比我想像的來得深...太深了。也在此先請各為見諒,如果有些事情我的話語中有模糊晦澀的部分,還請不要介意,我剛剛接管這個組織,還有許多事情我無法給一個確切答案,但是我會盡可能回答探員們的問題。

訪談

既然您已經接掌了國家安全局,請問,接下來國家安全局的方向是甚麼?其實這是三個問題,其一是NIA的方向?還有就是對於許多目前積極投入XM研究的民間公司團體,像是IQTech、Hulong、Visur等等公司,NIA與他們的關係將會如何發展?其三是一個比較敏感的問題,Johnson局長你是一個啟蒙軍的探員,也是13MAGNU組織的領導人,但是NIA面對的是兩個陣營的探員,請問你如何平衡這兩種不同的身分?

Hank Johnson的首要之務,是推動陽光法案。他認為有太多秘密,一直被藏在陰影之中,而他希望把這些陰影驅散在陽光之下,讓世界各地的探員了解更多的秘密。雖然不知道會有多少障礙,但是這是他處世的哲學。
至於對那些想要為了一己之私,將秘密握在手中的人,Hank說:「你可以等著看我會怎樣對付他們。」
Hank很清楚的理解自己在這個環境所處的地位,也很努力的在把他身上的幾個角色做出好的區隔,不要有灰色地帶,不要有競合的糾葛。事實上,Hank不認為這其中有任何衝突,甚至從某些角度來看,13MAGNUS和國家安全局的目標是一致的。對於這一點,Hank的中心思維是「調和」這兩個字,讓這不同的身分可以適當的融和在一起。

所以,你不打算告訴我們你接掌NIA之後準備怎麼做?(大笑)

(Hank巧妙的以微笑化解尷尬)Hank婉轉的表達,現階段能說的就是如此。畢竟,他才剛剛接任這個位置,還有很多事情,該說的時候會說,此時此刻有些事情Hank覺得還不適合說出口。

關於最近很熱門的話題:外源體,你的看法是甚麼,這是依個統稱還是特有所指?

「外源體」這個說法,是對一切來自於不同次元的存在體的統稱,像是Shapers、N’zeer等等都是。所有來自於我們次元以外的,就稱之為外源體。這只是一個分類名詞,並沒有其他隱含的意義。

但是Hank,你手上應該有更深入的消息嗎?(Hank:你說的是怎樣的資訊呢?比如說,在第一個異變日之Portal網路中出現的碎片,這是和Shapers相關的?還是與N’zeer有關的事物呢?

最早,研究人員認為外源體就只有Shapers,這一種異次元的存在,透過某些路徑,在影響著人類的發展。後來很驚訝的發現還有N’zeer這樣的存在,它們之間就像啟蒙軍和反抗軍之間一樣,在互相競爭對抗。所以、Hank認為這個「外源體」是一個通稱。目前已知的是Shapers和N’zeer,就是這樣,其餘的,只能摸著石頭過河、且戰且走。

這有可能是在指第三勢力嗎?您知道我說的不是反抗軍和啟蒙軍之外的…(大笑)

帶著一抹微笑,Hank說他能夠理解。雖然他不知道以後會怎樣,但是這一回和那些個事情完全無關。

說到發生在華盛頓的慘劇,很遺憾,我知道你和Calvin有很深的交情。從您的角度,您知道是誰該為這一連串的兇殺案負責嗎?

從Hank的角度來看,Ken Owen是855殺死的,但是目前為止找不到買兇殺人的人。至於Ezekiel Calvin和Jay Phillips的死,他雖然看到其中的一些關聯性,但是還不足以讓他把這三個命案串在一起。如果他有進一步的消息,他會告訴大家。對Hank而言,他和Calvin的交情,可以追朔到早年在阿雷西博計劃時期。所以對他而言,Calvin的死,已經是他的私人恩怨。Hank回憶他最後一次和Calvin談話,警告Calvin要小心保持低調,結果不到十天,他就遇害了。雖然已經經過了相當的時間,Hank的言談中仍然充滿遺憾,沉重的哀傷遠大於憤怒。

我有一個奇怪的想法,無意對逝者無禮,但是,Hank,有沒有一種可能,Ezekiel Calvin和Jay Phillips只是假死?藉以隱身幕後進行別的計畫?畢竟,當下對November Lima計劃等等的爭奪戰進入白熱化,有沒有一種可能,Calvin其實是聽了您的忠告,安排了這場…

Hank告訴我們,他很希望事情是如此這般,甚至希望他能夠親手安排這樣的一場戲。但是Calvin的屍體已經被確認了,他們真的已經死亡了。

(我們向Hank致意,表達心中的遺憾,也因為提出這個問題而向他致歉。Hank很溫和的請我們不用掛懷,他也提到,這是他們職業上必然的風險。)

有另一件事情必須請教您,大約在今年六七月間,您曾經找過Devra,詢問她有關Portal病毒的事情,請問,我可以問這是為了甚麼?

Hank表示,這件事情,現在不能說。即使訪談小組再三追問,Hank堅持這件事情的機密性。比較有趣的是,他忽然提到Devra正在舊金山,協助他觀察當地發生的事情。他唯一能透露的是,等時機成熟,他才能告訴我們一個不同的答案。

既然如此,好吧。不過,這是一個難得的機會,更難得您大老遠來到台灣,此時此刻,您正在對世界各地的探員廣播,Hank你能不能和大家分享一些第一手的消息?

Hank表示,在舊金山會有大事發生。P.A. Chapeau正在舊金山挖掘著各種秘密,雖然他還不知道確切的事情,但是PAC在那兒、Devra也在,肯定會有事情發生。

(Hank反問訪談人員對這件事情的看法。)

我覺得有點詭異到令人害怕,因為不止P.A. Chapeau、Devra還有Misty Hannah,the Acolyte,甚至Akira都恰巧到舊金山幫NL-1331進行升級改造。這絕對不是巧合。

Hank也回應表示這絕對不是巧合。這麼多主要的人物都到場,絕非巧合。他很直觀的說,如果不是因為出差來此,他本人也會在舊金山。這件事情對未來有著舉足輕重的影響。從他的說法看來,Hank Johnson似乎知道事情的始末,只是他不能或是不願意說出口。

既然您提到了,可以請問您到中國出差的目的?

再一次,Hank決定保持神秘。他只願意告訴我們:學無止境、他想要見的人可以解答他心中許多謎團。很抱歉他只能給出這樣的回答。如果我們兩周後再問這個問題,或許他就可以說出真正的答案了。(笑)有些事情仍然是機密。

不要擔心講錯話會被老闆開除好嗎?

Hank嚴肅的表示,之前他會擔心,如果說錯甚麼或做錯甚麼,會被開除,現在他知道自己是老闆。所以更知道在什麼時間該為什麼資訊保密,身為決定這些事情的人,並不會讓他把認為這些秘密的存在是理所當然。不過,他很清楚的知道必須保密的原因。

所以,你對這些機密老是外洩應該很頭痛吧?

對於情資洩密的問題,Hank的看法是,他們無法控制哪些資訊會不會被洩漏,只能希望那些資訊是在N.I.A.能夠控管影響層面的條件下被洩漏。畢竟N.I.A.是一個政府機夠,洩密的事情在所難免,由其是有關外源體和XM這類極為敏感的題目。而當採訪小組在事後整理訪談資料的時候,忍不住思考一個問題:一直以來洩漏出來的種種資訊,究竟有多少是在國家安全局的「默許」之下被釋出的?這會是調查員心中永遠的謎團。

(所以我不會因為問這些敏感問題而惹禍上身?)
(當然不會。你可以問任何問題,可以回答的,我當然會回答你。)

剛剛您提到Devra,我知道,過去您曾經和她……過從甚密。對不起我知道這是您的私事,但是,愛情與浪漫的故事向來就吸引人,由其是發生在您這樣的一個人身上…

Hank並沒有因為這個問題而不悅,他很爽朗的承認,他是Devra Bogdanovich的粉絲。Devra很聰明,能力很高,很堅強,有堅定的立場。在討論事情的時候,往往有著全然不同的見解,互相啟發。所以Hank很欣賞她。他承認過去兩個人有一段情,但是現在是很好的朋友,他也希望繼續和Devra是好朋友……Hank強調,工作上的(亞當竊笑)。至於浪漫的那一面,Hank也直言目前看不到任何可能性…

亞當:或許、就交給命運吧。
Hank:我想就留給外源體吧(笑…)。
亞當:好吧,這是一個很詭異的回答。(聳肩)
Hank:畢竟我是一個科學家(大笑)。

身為國家安全局的首長,你還會有時間繼續NOMAD實境秀嗎?很久以前有謠言說你製做NOMAD秀是你為了調查各種情報的一種手段,但是從內容看起來,我並不認同這種看法,因為NOMAD裡面往往能夠切重要點。

對於NOMAD實境秀,Hank表示,在接任國家安全局局長的職務後,的確,他的時間很有限。而NOMAD實境秀的製作需要相當多的時間。但是,這是他的喜好,他希望能夠繼續製作更多的單元。從另一方面來說,這個節目並不是偽裝的手段,反過來說,因為製作這個節目,他反而能夠接觸到各種訊息,進出許多不同的地方,而這些、對於XM的研究是有許多幫助的,所以從某個角度來講,這樣說也沒有錯。不過Hank也笑著說,現在他要各個地方,肯定不會再像以前一樣那麼自由自在了。

結尾

以上大約是今天我們想請教Hank的問題。

Hank:反過來我想聽聽你的看法,接下來你覺得N.I.A. 和這些公司該怎樣互動,可以給一些建議嗎?(不愧是NOMAD秀的主持人,馬上開始回問問題了。)
亞當:私人公司與政府單位對於利益的看法是不同的,我覺得該有一些行為去校正這些企業體採取的扭曲的作法。同樣的,必須要公開。當我再介紹PAC網站的東西的時候,我常常說:一筆洩漏的消息指出等等等等的。這不是一個好現象
H:我很認同,這也是我的目標,讓探員們對這些秘密有更多的認知。我想這一點我們的看法是一致的。
亞當:如果能讓世界各地的探員在日常生活中可以不要面對那些不誠實的行為…
Hank:讓我這麼問你,對於跨陣營的互動的問題,在很多地方,跨陣營的活動不容易進行,這一點你有沒有甚麼建議?
亞當:我覺得或許可以組織一些比較小型的,需要兩個陣營協力合作的活動,或許是不錯的。很抱歉我只有比較抽象的想法。畢竟這種活動,你只能誘導而不是強迫。像是異變的活動,這本質是競爭,但是我指的活動,並不是類似以前那種全球XM衰弱等等的,那種事情的範圍太大了,我指的是比較小的,比較區域性的活動。
Hank:謝謝這是很好的想法,不要說這太抽象,畢竟我忽然把問題丟給你。也謝謝你,我也該前往下一個行程了。
亞當:謝謝你接受我們的訪談,這是在#EXO5第二個異變日事件開始之前,在台灣為全世界探員做的實況轉播,訪問的是Hank Johnson。謝謝。
Hank:以上Hank Johnson在此為您播報。

因緣

特別感謝位為來自不同地區的調查員協力,才有機會進行這場訪談,來自日本Project LYCAEUM Community (https://plus.google.com/communities/114895616717291642123)的兩位調查員,其一是Aya、別名tabby(@tabineco),另一位是人稱PISp的調查員Tadashi Namizaki +Tadashi Namizaki (@Agent_PISp),協助與國家安全局溝通。也感謝得到了負責Niantic亞太區社群的經理Hilda Leung +Hilda Leung(@halette)給予的諸多協助,因而成就了這次訪談。同時也感謝前來現場協助的madderColor +이영주 調查員(@madderColor)。
在此,也在此特別感謝著名的調查員Mustafa “MuMu”Said +Mustafa Said 的協助。
台灣部分的總協調是人稱竹子的 +Bamboo @bamboocyt調查員。還有分別來自啟蒙軍陣營的月月 +羅諾威 (@EtOH58RedSirius)和反抗軍陣營的亞當 +Adam Kao (@AdamTWN)。
所有參與的人員在事先都經過國家安全局的安全審核過濾。協調後現場由亞當主持訪談的進行。



#EXO5 Cross Faction Interview with Hank Johnson

Interview Video Link - https://youtu.be/wdPDfsRI1tE

character
+Hank Johnson, a solder, an archeologist, host of NOMAD reality show solving the mystery of XM, one of the most respected “high-sensitive” of Niantic Project from both factions. Now, the newly onboarded director of N.I.A. It’s a very special opportunity that Hank routed to Taipei for the #EXO5 2nd Day Anomaly on his business trip to China. We appreciate very much that Director Hank Johnson could make time for the cross-faction interview conducted by RES and ENL agents in Formosa Island.

the day

2017/12/2 morning, the 2nd anomaly day of #EXO5. Taipei Shungshan Cultural and Creative Park, the scent of trees and grass, with the tiny ran drops almost like the high-density XM from the anomaly floating in the air. We move alone the street, there was a strong and solid feeling of been watched alone the way. The interview team soon realized that we‘ve entered the control area of N.I.A. We arrived a small restaurant where Hank Johnson already there. Frankly speaking, it won’t surprise us if everyone inside the restaurant were replaced by N.I.A.’s special agents and operators.

opening

Adam: Congratulations for becoming the Director of N.I.A. I’m @AdamTWN, friends call me Adam. Thank you for your time taking the interview.
Hank: Thank you. Glad to be here, this is my first trip to Taiwan and I do enjoy the culture, the people and the places in Taiwan. A lovely place.
Adam: I’m an investigator in Taiwan. The story teller of Formosa Resistance (https://plus.google.com/u/1/+FormosaResistance) which is one of the Ingress Agents’ communities in Taiwan. My major task is to write articles to tell the past stories, and to translate all the updated articles of the developing story, and to share with all agents.
Hank: Thank you, this is important. The story is far more deeper than you can image.
Adam: And you are in the deepest spot now…(laugh)
Hank: After taking this position. I found the rabbit hole is deeper than I thought. Forgive me if my answer may be cryptic or something I really cannot answer at this moment.

the Interview

Since you take over the N.I.A., what would be the direction under your lead? This is a triple question, the first part is how you’ll position N.I.A., the second one is how you will position N.I.A. when dealing with the private XM-researching organizations? And the last part is, with no offensive, since you are the leader of 13MAGNUS and also an Enlightened agent, but N.I.A. is dealing with the affairs of all agents. How would you balance between the roles?

Hank’s philosophy would be pushing for the Sunshine Principle. There’re too many secrets been hiding in the shadow and he want to remove the shades so more secrets could be revealed to agents around the world. Although there should exists many uncertainties, it’s definitely his goal.
As for those who are holding the secrets for their own benefits, Hank mentioned: “let’s see what I’ll do to them.”.
As for the multiple-role of his. Hank promise will do the best efforts to compartmentalize, to balance between these roles to avoid gray areas or conflicts. In fact, he believes these identities he’s carrying does not conflict each other. Even in some cases, for example, the goal of 13MAGNUS may matches N.I.A.’s.

So, you are not going to tell us your next move? (laugh out loud)

(Hank resolve the embarrassment with a gentle smile) When things are supposed to be told, he’ll tell. It’s too early to speak about something at the moment.

Back to the hot hot subject now, the Exogenous Entity, what’s your point of view? Is it a general term for any beings from the multiverse other than ours? Or does it have a specific meaning?

The term of “Exogenous” is a general term, like Shapers, like N’zeer, N.I.A. use it to categorize anything from outside of our dimension. It’s does not have some hidden or special meaning.

But, I suppose you should have some deeper information? (Hank: What kind of information are you referring to?) For example, the shards in the portal network appeared after the first anomaly day of #EXO5, is it Shapers related? Or N’zeer related things?

Back to the beginning, researchers thought there’s only Shapers, Shapers affected the development of mankind. And soon N’zeer was identified, and people found astonished that Shapers are fighting with N’zeer like what’s between ENL and RES. Thus, Hank pointed out, the Exogenous Entity is a general term. So far we only understand the existence of Shapers and N’zeer. We’ll need to react according to what will happen.

Could this be the third faction? You know I’m not referring to the RES and ENL things…(lol)

Hank firmly confirmed (with a smile) that, there’s nothing to do with the third faction, at least not this time.

Back to the tragedy in D.C. I know your relation with Ezekiel Calvin, I’m sorry about that. From your point of view, who should be responsible for the series of the murder/assassinations.

Hank pointed out again that, Ken Owen was killed by 855, but cannot find the person who hired him. As for Ezekiel Calvin and Jay Phillips, Hank did find some connections but not strong enough to consider if the three murders are connected. Hank spoke of his long-since relationship with Calvin all the way back to Arecibo. He pointed out that it has become his person issue about the murder of Ezekiel Calvin. The last time he spoke with Calvin was around 10 days before the explosion, he warned Calvin to be careful and stay low profile… Although it’s been some time, I felt a very deep sadness from Hank, more than anger…

With no offensive to the dead. Is it possible that Ezekiel Calvin did took your advice and arranged the explosion to get off the grid? As you can see, the war fighting for November Lima program has reached a peak it never to be. So, do you think it’s possible that they are still alive?

Hank told us, he also wished it was in that way. He even wished that it was him who had the opportunity to make such arrangements. But, the body has been identified, they are dead for sure.

(we offer our condolences and apologize for asking the question. Hank gently reply his understanding as it’s a professional risk, the chances to take.)

Another question is, around this Jun./Jul. timeframe, you asked Devra for portal virus. Why?

Hank commented that he cannot disclose information about the subject. For some reason, he mentioned that Devra is in San Francisco to be his eyes and ears. Watching up closely for what’s happening there. As for the subject question, he just told the agents that, perhaps after some time, he can provide a different answer.

No matter how, this is a very rare opportunity to have you in Taiwan. And while broadcasting to the agents WW, could you share some first-hand information with all of us?

Hank mentioned that, P.A. Chapeau is there in San Francisco digging out all the secrets, and with Devra’s there as well as many important persons. There must be something on going. (Hank asked the interview team a counter question: ”what do you think about that?”)

I feel it’s spooky. For not only P.A. Chapeau, Devra, Misty Hannah, the Acolyte even Akira is happened to be there upgrading NL-1331. This is never to be coincidence.

Hank acknowledged that he shared the same point of view. If it’s not by his business trip, he would also be there since what’s happening there would be very important to the future. We can only say, Hank should have knowing something, he simply not able or not willing to tell.

Since you mentioned, what’s the purpose of the business trip to China?

Once again, Hank decided not to disclose the information. He only said that, there’s always something to learn and the person he’ll meet will solve a lot of his questions. If we ask him two weeks later, he might be able to tell us the story (smile). Something remained secret at this moment.

Don’t you worry you’ll get fired if you say or do something wrong?

Hank replied seriously about this question. He used to have such worries. But now he understands he is the boss. So, he understands he is the one to decide what to be kept as secrets. Becoming the person who make such decision does not make it any easier. But at least, he knows very well about why those things should remain undisclosed.

So, it’s a headache issue seeing all those leakages, right?

For the leakage of the intel. Hank believe, the leakage of intel is a fact, nothing can do about that. N.I.A. only wish the leakage to take place when they can contain the effects. N.I.A. is a government agency, leakage is not avoidable, especially when it’s about topics like XM, Exogenous…etc. When interview team is writing this report, at this moment, we can’t help to think about a question… for how many times, the leakage of intel was…technically…under the acquiescent from N.I.A.? I’m afraid that this will always be a question inside the heart of every investigators.

(so I won’t get into trouble asking sensitive questions?)
(of course not, if I can answer, I’ll answer)

You mentioned about Devra. I know, she and you, has some relationship before. I apologize for asking personal questions. But you know, gossips of love and romance always touches people’s heart, especially it’s on you…

Hank was not offended by the question. He brightly tell us how he admire Devra Bodganovich. He’s a big fans of Devra for she is smart, capable, strong and tough. Hank admire her because she usually shares different view-points and they inspired each other. But Hank also clarify the admire is for work only. They are good friends and he wish to stay so. (Adam snickered). As for the future, Hank does not see any opportunity to develop the relationship further.

Adam: Perhaps we’ll leave it to Karma.
Hank: I guess I’ll leave it to Exogenous. (laugh)
Adam:OKey, this is a spooky answer.
Hank: After all, I’m a scientist (lol).

Now, being the head of N.I.A. Will you continue the NOMAD show? There’s been rumors that NOMAD show is only a cover up for your actions investigating all the secrets regarding XM. Personally, I am not completely agreeing with that, since NOMAD show usually cuts through the point.

For NOMAD Reality Show, Hank did wish to continue to provide more episodes to let more and more people understand the secrets lies within XM. But, as the director of N.I.A., it’s also true that he is lacking of the most critical component – time, to make the program. But he definitely wishes to continue. Also, instead of saying that NOMAD is a cover up, Hank would rather consider it’s NOMAD that leads him to explore many places with all the stories to further enhance his work investigating XM. But he would not deny if we take it that way. Hank also admit (laughing) that, if he wants to make new episode, “he just need a bigger security detail” now.

Coda

So, that’s about the interview today.

Hank: From the other hand, I’d like to hear your comments. How do you think N.I.A. should interact with those private companies? Any suggestions? (Hank raised up his question to the interview team, no wonder, he is the host of the NOMAD show!)
Adam: The agenda to government departments and private company are quite different. I believe there should be some actions to adjust the twisted actions/behavior from private company. Also, equally important is, the information must be transparent. In many cases when I introducing the data from P.A. Chapeau’s Investigation Community, I usually say: “as usual, a leakage” and I don’t think it’s a good phenomenal.
Hank: I agree with that, it’s also my goal. To reveal the secrets to agents. I believe we share similar point of view at the subject.
Adam: It would be nice if agents in the WW don’t have to face some dis-honest behavior.
Hank: Let me ask you this way, what do you think about cross faction interaction? In certain places, it’s not easy to conduct cross faction events. Any suggestions about that?
Adam: I guess maybe it’s possible to organize some smaller operations which requires the efforts of agents from both factions, to work together, to complete. Sorry for my abstracted, conceptual wording. After all, interaction can only be induced to, not forced to. Anomaly is good, but it’s competition between the factions. And what I mean is not those thing like global XM drop out, it’s too wide-ranged. What I mean is some smaller scale activities for smaller areas.

Hank: Thanks for the input. Please do not say it’s too conceptual. It’s me who throw the question to you suddenly. Thank you, I believe I should be on my next schedule.
Adam: Thank you for taking the interview. We are interviewing with Hank Johnson in Taiwan, right before the second day of #EXO5 Anomaly event. Broadcasting to the agents WW.
Hank: Hank Johnson out.


the arrangement

We’d like to offer our appreciations to the special efforts of the investigators from different regions who realized the interview. Investigator Aya (@tabineco, a.k.a. tabby) and investigator Tadashi Namizaki +Tadashi Namizaki (@Agent_PISp, known as PISp), from the Project LYCAEUM Community (https://plus.google.com/communities/114895616717291642123), helped to communicate with N.I.A. And with the assistance from the Niantic Community Manager Hilda Leung +Hilda Leung (@halette). The interview was successfully arranged. We also appreciate the special efforts from Investigator madderColor +이영주
(@madderColor) who came to Taiwan to support the interview.
We’d like to offer our special thanks to The famous Investigator Mustafa “MuMu”Said +Mustafa Said.
The local team is formed by three, the chief modulator is investigator @bamboocyt +Bamboo (a.k.a. Bamboo), investigator @EtOH58RedSirius (yueh-yueh +羅諾威) from ENL and investigator @AdamTWN (Adam +Adam Kao) from RES.
The profile of each person participated in the interview has been sent to N.I.A. for security check. And Adam was assigned (by the team) to host the interview.

+Hank Johnson
#EXO5
#EXO5Taipei
#Ingress
#CrossFactionInterview
#Interview
#HankJohnson跨陣營專訪
#Niantic
#FormosaResistance
#ProjectLycaeum


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あの出来事の直後なんで、PACの投稿がちょこっと途切れただけでも神経質になるユート氏。あんなん組織に狙われてしまっても仕方ないよ…

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※これは自動文字起こしと自分の聞き耳力とGoogle先生とフィーリングで訳した、 EXO5 アノマリー サンフランシスコのアフターパーティでの一幕です。正しいかどうかは…お察しください。
※また、登場するMac氏のスペルを知りません。ごめんなさい(´・ω・`)

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Andrew: アニメ、興奮しただろう?しかし他にも…ああいや、よくわかんないんだが。今年はとても良い年になったね。本当にありが――

PAC: アンドリュー!待つんだ。

Andrew: おや、P.A.シャポー。

PAC:まだ何か隠しているだろう?

Andrew: 私のポケットはもう空だよ。

PAC: 一体何を隠しているんだ、アンドリュー。
昨晩、Coit Towerでデッドドロップを介してある人物から接触を受け、ある物を受け取った。
その人物の名はベン・ジャックランド。君ならよくご存知だな、アンドリュー?
彼はこれを託してくれた。

Andrew: いやいやいやいや。

PAC: アンドリュー! リチャード・ローブなら隠し通すのに協力しただろうが、P.A.シャポーは違う。
これについて語ってもらおうじゃないか、アンドリュー。今すぐに。なあ?

Andrew: ええと…ハンケがいない。今出ていったみたいだな…。俺は何も知らないんだ。マック、君は何か知ってるかい?

PAC: 話すんだ。

Mac: ま、待ってくれ。何のことを話しているのか…

PAC: 諸君。今が真実の時だ。これが一体何なのか、彼らに話すんだ。彼らは知るに値する。

―諸君、これが何なのか知りたいだろう!

―これはベン・ジャックランドが届けてくれたものだ!

Mac: まだ準備ができていない、準備できていないんだ。それはできないよ。

PAC: 準備はできているはずだ。君たちは知っている。我々も知っている。
君たちは今ここで動くべきだ。今こそ明かす時だ!
彼らに教えるんだ、マック。教えてくれ。

Mac: わかった。こいつを見てくれ!

PAC: ありがとう!


[ 動画再生: INGRESS PRIME ティザームービー ]


Andrew: 待ちに待ったIngress2.0だ!

Andrew: それで、どこでそれをベン・ジャックランドから受け取ったんだい?

PAC: ベンは私にこれを託してくれた。私は奴らが取り返すまで持っておくつもりだ。取り返しに来るのを楽しみにしているよ。
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