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How does everyone here feel about compulsory vaccination?

I believe that it's just another attempt by big government to insert itself into our lives and take a larger role in our families in the ever popular name of "the greater good." Are there any libertarian arguments that any of you can think of for forced immunization?
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+Steve Lolyouwish You were arguing for it.  You may say you were being the devil's advocate, but you were still arguing for it.  And no, it wasn't helpful, because the arguments outside the libertarian community are nothing like your arguments:  they are all about effectiveness, not about principle.  Getting out of the echo chamber requires interacting with actual nonlibertarians, not just libertarians guessing at the other side's arguments.

You are also badly mistaken regarding how things would work in a truly libertarian society.  In a libertarian society, the extra payment required for insurance if one were unvaccinated would be based on the actual extra cost of insuring you.  Since the extra risk is quite minimal, the extra cost would also be minimal.  Most people would vaccinate because they'd rather vaccinate than risk sickness, but no one would be forced to, especially for the largely nonfatal illnesses that are the subject of most vaccinations these days.
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I repost this to illustrate a point. The op instructs us that don't vote to shut up and then laments not having anyone to vote for, only against.

Which one has silenced themselves here? I refuse to continue to participate because the net result is identical. No quality option equals only the illusion of choice. Continued participation creates the illusion of a consensus, although we are meant to be a republic and not a mobocracy, and a perceived consensus empowers the politician. Lack of participation exposes our system for what it is: a sham.
 
I live next-door in Washington State and we have mail-in ballots too, yet we had only 42.41% turnout. What's the difference? How can we get people to vote? 

Do you complain about politics and NOT vote? Then SHUT UP! In my county, it's not so much about voting FOR somebody as voting AGAINST somebody. 

Google "Clint Didier" and you'll understand.
Oregon has mail-in voting, no serious efforts at voter disenfranchisement, and an engaged populace. Here's the big one : Out of the 2.2 million registered voters in Oregon, 69.5 ...
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It is my opinion, and I believe that history also illustrates that, regardless of the system of governance that is put in place, the "fairness" (aka the "hater") doctrine will continue to push our society towards collectivism. 
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My unit lost a UH-60M that was searching for the RC-12 that crashed looking for this piece of shit deserter. Fortunately, the Blackhawk crew was fine. Unfortunately, the RC-12 crew wasn't so lucky.
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I've read parts of the killer's manifesto, what I could wade through anyways. It's so dripping with entitlement and narcissistic bullshit that I couldn't really stomach much of it.

What really disturbs me about this article is that these two are coming together to find a "common ground" on "enacting tougher gun control!!" They've missed the entire point. The shooter's entire disconnect was the result of resting the blame of his social failures outside of himself, what I believe is symptomatic of an entitlement society.

Blaming the firearms that he used to commit these crimes is no less crazy than him blaming the girls that he couldn't bring himself to talk to for not recognizing him. Am I the only one that sees this parallel? 
Richard Martinez, whose 20-year-old son, Christopher, was killed in the May 23 bloodbath near Santa Barbara, met in private with filmmaker Peter Rodger, the father of virginal gunman Elliot Rodger.
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"Common ground" = "we want more gun control even though people were stabbed to death and run down with a car""

If Rodgers had killed my child, I wouldn't have spoken with his father. I would have beaten him within an inch of his life for creating the POS that was his incredibly misguided son.
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Politics are a mental illness. How did our country turn into "I live this way, so I'm going to make everyone else live this way, as well."?

How did taxes turn into charity? Why is everyone now asking for "help" and meaning some kind of government subsidy or some kind of special exemption? Why is everyone so concerned with what's going on in other people's bedrooms? Why does every problem need to be addressed with legislative action?

This is like the bizarro USA. I really can't address all of the issues that cause me such great concern, but I can sum up my solution with two things: Everyone leave everyone else alone and everyone respect everyone else while doing it.

All of the ills facing us right now can be attributed to two things: Presumed intellectual and moral superiority. You and your group/party/professional sports team are not smarter or more moral than everyone else, so shut the hell up and stay out of everyone else's business. 
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My unit lost a UH-60M that was searching for the RC-12 that crashed looking for this piece of shit deserter. Fortunately, the Blackhawk crew was fine. Unfortunately, the RC-12 crew wasn't so lucky.
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I've read parts of the killer's manifesto, what I could wade through anyways. It's so dripping with entitlement and narcissistic bullshit that I couldn't really stomach much of it.

What really disturbs me about this article is that these two are coming together to find a "common ground" on "enacting tougher gun control!!" They've missed the entire point. The shooter's entire disconnect was the result of resting the blame of his social failures outside of himself, what I believe is symptomatic of an entitlement society.

Blaming the firearms that he used to commit these crimes is no less crazy than him blaming the girls that he couldn't bring himself to talk to for not recognizing him. Am I the only one that sees this parallel? 
Richard Martinez, whose 20-year-old son, Christopher, was killed in the May 23 bloodbath near Santa Barbara, met in private with filmmaker Peter Rodger, the father of virginal gunman Elliot Rodger.
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+ConstitutionalBootcamp Why the block? It was a simple dispute over the constitutionality of religious legislation. If you can't abide discourse, you prove that your goal isn't truly liberty.

I only ask because I am truly interested in the Constitution and would like to see it applied in accordance with it's original intent.
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