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Tony Arnold
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Hey guys, the conversation in here is riveting… Just like all of Google+.

Where has Google gone wrong? Google+ is rather lovely in places!
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So ... This community is pretty representative of what Google+ has become isn't it?

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According to The National, accidents fell 20% in Dubai and 40% in Abu Dhabi. Lieutenant General Dahi Khalfan Tamim from the Dubai Police department said his...
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......phone service is much better now after swapping to and iPhone and thanks to Siri, accidents fell another 50%....

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If me from 10 years ago met me from today, we would have an argument about web technology.

Past me would think that I'd forgotten my roots, and gone a bit mad by only coding native applications.

So what I've come to realise over the last few years is that like many technologies, the web has been shoe horned into being used for something it's not good at: applications. When I use an application on my Mac, I expect that when I press a button, the user interface response to that button is instantaneous — whether that be to immediately perform a specific action, or to show some indication that my activity is occurring and I need to wait.

Browsers can do this, but more often than not these responses are delayed and result in indeterminate activity occurring without any visible feedback. In the worst cases, my entire "application" flashes white and reloads while I'm using it.

AJAX and dynamic reloading of components has reduced this a fair bit over the years, and apps like Gmail do a fine job of hiding these inadequacies — but they're still not as fast or as feature rich as desktop mail clients.

There's a far bigger issue, though — are web pages really a good medium for providing application-style interaction in the first place? Is this another case of using a tool because we know it, not because it's actually a good tool for the job?

I'm interested in opinions and experiences here — I've worked on both sides of the fence, and I'd no longer suggest a web app to a client in place of a native app without very good reason to do so, because web apps are a compromise in functionality on so many levels. Yes, web apps let you target multiple platforms at once, but when did that ever produce the best experience? (I'm looking at you Java, Qt, WxPython, etc, etc, etc).

All that being said I don't disagree with Joe Hewitt's piece on web technologies (http://joehewitt.com/post/web-technologies-need-an-owner/) — there seems to be an arrogance in the web community (not individuals) that the web will always be relevant. But if the next generation of users care (and they do seem to) about whether there is an app for whatever service or task they're performing, where does that leave traditional web apps?

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I agree with +Andrew Shooner

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I saw this in an Ars Technica comment thread today, and it comes pretty close to expressing why Google makes me uneasy:


Poster 1 commented:

"Google did all of the work in WebM, I fail to see how they're using "other's" work."

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You mean the part when they renamed some purchased codec "WebM"? Yeah, that’s a hell of an effort. Like the one time when they wrote a whole browser completely from scratch. Or invented their own, original Language and API for developing software on mobile phones, which wasn’t anything like Java or Java’s VM, at all. *)

I have to agree with a previous poster; Google gets a hell of a lot of benefit of the doubt for all the actions they pull, simply because they use a sharpie to write "open" across all of it. As soon as Google enters a market/product niche all of a sudden work done previously by other companies is worthless, patent trolling, money-grabbing, evil-doing, steaming pile of shit that needs to die in a fire.

Seems to escape everyone that Google doesn’t give a shit as long as stuff keeps users on their system(s) and gets them advertising dollars. But, yeah, write "open" in front of it and everyone gets all communist about Google’s efforts.

*) Yeah, I’m aware that they put in a lot of work on their stuff, sometimes significantly improving it in certain areas. Doesn’t make the "take and run with it, care about consequences later" part of those any less unsavoury.
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"YouTube provides WebM versions of some of their videos, I believe."

Seems highly likely that WebM is a plan B, in case MPEG LA try to charge large licensing fees for YouTube's use of H.264. Definitely a smart business strategy on Google's part, from a purely financial standpoint. Good for society as a whole? Maybe, but only because it aligns with Google's plans by chance, it seems.

I'm with Tony on this. Google do some great work. The misrepresentation of WebM, Android and other projects as open detracts from that.

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Calling the police over students accessing Facebook seems a tad extreme.
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The cops wouldn't have a clue how to handle it anyway. It would have just been a scare tactic. Like when my dad caught my bro shoplifting a packet of balloons when he was a toddler. He got the chick at the checkout to call security :)

Didn't really help. Just made my bro sneakier.
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Oh god, oh god — I am almost in tears from laughing so hard while I read this. Be sure to search for "Aliens".

USPTO, any credibility you were clinging to is so utterly, totally gone.
[Help] [Home] [Boolean Search]. ( 1 of 1 ). United States Patent Application, 20060071122. Kind Code, A1. St. Clair; John Quincy, April 6, 2006. Full body teleportation system. Abstract. A pulsed grav...
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I really like Google Plus, but it still feels like an empty hall.

When are the people going to get here?
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Yea, adding that circle would definitely help out!

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Google+ has Angry Birds now? Those freaking birds are everywhere!
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But yes, I dont envy the person trying to make a compelling movie script out of these... Battleship, despite being based on a board game has massive alien ships. ...

more on angry birds movie: http://mashable.com/2011/07/05/angry-birds-movie-2/ early stages yet it seems.

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This. 1000 times this. I dislike patents and the effect they're having on my profession, but Google needs a swift kick in the arse.

Hopefully this will all result in two things:

- Software patents being abolished (or at least reformed so that they can't be used as weapons);
- Google creating and inventing new things. I used to love Google, what the hell happened to them?
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If you watch and enjoy Game of Thrones, turn up your speakers and listen to this cover of the show's theme. Awesome!
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Software Developer
Skills
Cocoa Development, Software Development
Employment
  • The CocoaBots
    Software Developer & Owner, 2009 - present
  • The University of Newcastle, Australia
    Senior Analyst Programmer (Web), 2005 - 2009
  • The University of Newcastle, Australia
    Web Technical Lead, 2002 - 2005
  • The University of Newcastle, Australia
    Online Learning & Web Support Officer, 2000 - 2002
  • The University of Wollongong, Australia
    Multimedia Trainee, 1998 - 2000
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Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia
Previously
Kiama, New South Wales, Australia - Nelson Bay, New South Wales, Australia - Townsville, Queensland, Australia
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Cocoa Developer. I run The CocoaBots, purveyors of fine Cocoa code and wares.
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I'm a Cocoa Developer running a small company called 'The CocoaBots'. 

I love what I do, and I get a bit heated about it.
Education
  • University of Newcastle
    Visual Communication, 2001 - 2002
  • Kiama High School
    Not going too far off the rails, 1992 - 1997
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