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If our core protects our atmosphere, why didn't Mercury's core do the same? Does Mercury have a solid core, or is it to small for that?
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Objective Morality

"A particular action, or choice is moral or right, when it promotes happiness, well being, or health. Or some how minimizes unnecessary harm or suffering or it does both."

"A particular action or choice is immoral or wrong when it diminishes happiness, well being, or health. Or some how maximizes unnecessary harm or suffering, or it does both."

This is the best argument I've come across for objective morals, without invoking the supernatural, or my opinion. Chopping the head off someone will indeed cause unnecessary harm, diminishes well being, or health. It is not my opinion that these action will cause these things. I also like to add, The reason I don't do these things, is for empathetic reasons, not out of fear or selfishness.

It is scary to listen to a theist say to you. If there was no god, then why shouldn't I kill other people. It's basically saying, I'm not moral, I don't know what moral is without god, and if I didn't believe in god, I would eat your baby.

Big bang, a universe from "nothing", there needs to be a cause.

If your reading this, first thing you should look up, here on YouTube. Is Lawrence Krauss a universe from nothing if you haven't already watched it.

Another thing to look up, is *Aristotle on 4 causes*.

In physics, nothing, isn't the same kind of nothing as philosophy talks about. Lawrence Krauss explains.

Have you experienced a nothing, ever? What makes you think there was a time for the lack of better words that there was nothing as in absolute 0?

Our empirical experience as explained by Aristotle on 4 causes. You can't have a efficient cause, without a material cause. So even from a naturalistic stand point. You can have a cause that isn't a intelligence. I'll give you an example of a none-intelligent efficient cause, and material cause. The moon is the material cause of it's gravity, it's gravity is the efficient cause of tides in our oceans. 

I can even argue from the opposite.

The big bang marks the expansion of the universe, of space time. Everything within space and time, this includes all the laws of physics. Why so, or how so the law of cause and effect? It's just another observed law in physics. If ever other law didn't exist yet, then how the law of cause and effect?

Neil Tyson~ the universe is under no obligation to make sense to us What makes sense is logical. Whats logical, is based on our experiences. We have no experiences outside of space time. *The universe is under no obligation to be logical to us*

the fine tuning

The fine tuning argument has been refuted over, and over again. 

The state of the universe, if it was any other way, you wouldn't be here to make the argument.

A better argument would be, that the universe isn't fine tuned, yet we are still here. It would make our existence unnatural to the order of being alive as a supernatural phenomenon.

Hitchhiker guide to the galaxy puddle analogy

“Imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, ‘This is an interesting world I find myself in, an interesting hole I find myself in, fits me rather neatly, doesn’t it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!’ This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and smaller, it’s still frantically hanging on to the notion that everything’s going to be alright, because this world was meant to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather by surprise. I think this may be something we need to be on the watch out for."
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+Ken Rice Anti-theist? I'm an Atheist. Atheism and anti-theism are two different things. Not really important, just wanted to point that out.

"The question remains to the anti theist, by what standard can you appeal to to say that something is really, objectively wrong?"

The fact that murder always causes unnecessary harm. And is never an opinion.

I think what you really mean, is why should anyone conform to the definition. Abide by a moral code, the idea of moral duties?

No one has to abide by the moral code. This doesn't mean we can't tell them they're wrong. Their action (i.e murdering someone) will cause unnecessary harm. Regardless if they Abide, or agree to the moral code. Unnecessary harm is an objective reason. Something I can use against their actions.

No one has to be moral. If you're acting moral out of fear of punishment, then you're amoral. You're selfish, and acting moral.

If the only reason you're not killing is fear of hell/prison. That's the wrong reasons to be moral. Because it's selfish.

I'll explain why I am a moral person. 1st, I understand what my actions cause, (i.e the definition I gave). 2nd, Empathy, being able to relate.

If you lack empathy, then you lack morals.

"Couldn't it be argued that in some cases it may be preferable to the propagation of the human race, or at a minimum to the benefit of the individual committing the act, that chopping off the head of someone will improve the species, well being or health of an individual? Isn't that the whole idea of natural selection and evolution, i,e. survival of the fittest?"

I've seen similar arguments like this one. Normally it's torturing someone.

We're talking necessary, vs unnecessary harm.

The problems I find in these arguments, is the actual possibility of the scenarios being argued. And how such a scenario would be the only option. Or how the action would benefit another person.

Can you give me a realistic scenario. That will lead to cutting the head of someone off, as the only option, and would benefit another person?

"Isn't that the whole idea of natural selection and evolution, i,e. survival of the fittest?"

Survival of the fittest, doesn't always mean survival of the alpha, or the strongest/fastest/biggest.

Survival can rely on many different factors. Survival could rely on the survival of the group.

Survival can lead to moral, and immoral actions.

"An explanation of where this realm of energy, un-caused, un-created, came from still remains and again seems to simply put off the problem another step."

Who says it needs to come from anywhere? Only theist think these things need be created.

"Lawrence Krauss in his book simply redefines what "nothing" is to make his remodeled inflationary theory work."

Not really. We have no experience with a "nothing". To believe there was a period when there was nothing.

We have it in our heads, that because this universe began to exist. That at that moment everything had to began existing. I'll refer back to Aristotle's 4 causes.

"I have no experience with things beginning to exist un-caused or un-created so that would lead me to lean toward the universe having a cause for its existence"

I would also say we both have no experience with things beginning to exist, creatio ex nihilo either. 

My only point, is we don't truly know how this all came into be. And in every way we try explaining it. There is always something wrong with it. Neil Tyson's quote is to say, just because we can't imagine it, or because it doesn't make sense. Doesn't mean it's not what happen. We lack experience in this universe. 

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Want to develop Android, and iOS apps and games, might want to check this out. I paid like $6.50 with PayPal for all 10 courses.

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/06/11/mobile-developer-course-pay-what-you-want/
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Is Google the closest thing we have to a god? It is the closest thing to an all-knowing, ever-present entity. It is potentially immortal, remembers everything, provides answers, and knows more about you than your closest friends. Oh, and it actually exists.
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I'm a natural born artist, self taught Android developer, and a Father of 4... I'm good at a lot of things, but none more important than being a dad...
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As far as pizza goes, it was good. I wouldn't say it was horrible. But I have had better. Coming from P.A, not saying we have the best pizza around. But it is better. What I'm use too in a Pizzeria, is a pizza that hardly fits in the box. That taste better then Corporation pizza, for a better price. This pizza was 16inc for about $10.0 with out toppings. I'm use to a 20inc or more for the same price.
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Great place to get pizza. Makes me not miss the pizza I can get from my home town in PA...
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Food was good, the staff was exceptional, rooms very cozy.
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