Meryl Dorey is a pip. "Free speech" and "two sides" my ever-loving backside. It's not a free speech issue at all, and when it comes to reality, there aren't two sides. Especially when it comes to the grossly wrong and very, very dangerous misinformation she spreads.
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- Sue H+1Yup. And herd immunity is the first thing to be lost when too many people make self-centered choices that are, as stand-alone choices, perfectly acceptable but are not OK en mass.Apr 26, 2012
- +Brooke Johnson Please look up "herd immunity" , or someone explain it to her... The only reason these diseases rates Are Low is because people get vaccines. By not Vaccinating, you not only threaten your children, but everyones, Vaccinated or NOT. If some of these disease mutate enough through natural uncontained spread, it threatens the permanant effectiveness of the vaccine and puts millions of lives at risk.
The side I am on is "Pro-Science". Please feel free to falsify any fact I present. But I see some serious nonscientific Demogogary among the "ProVax" camp here that sounds borderline Denialist. Public Health measures would well benefit from adopting the constraint found in Environmental Science. By constraint, mean caution in how vaccinations are done, ( Not by stopping them ! ) And recognize that no person is served, by lack of transparancy in vaccine ingredients, sheltering corporations that may take dangerous corner-cutting measures , nor introducing endogenous mammal viruses into the human population. Can we all agree these are NOT Preferred?
Yes, its insane alarmism to blindly assert that "vaccines cause cancer". But this sounds suspiciously like a strawman. Some types of vaccines can cause tumors. It is a FACT, that some humans have gotten cancers , from both endogenous retroviruses and previously unknown viruses ( from the animal tissues ) the vaccines were cultured in . I don't think glossing over concerns over potentially harmful unnecessary ingedients or animal tissue cultures is a Conspiracy. Its institutional stupidity, of the same of order that Semmelweiss faced when attempting to get surgeons to wash their hands. OK, I take it back, its several orders worse, since we have the germ-theory of disease, and know about cancer causing viruses.
Lest I be attacked, I do get Vaccines frequently, and have never heard of Meryl Dorey. Neverthless I would prefer a more open industry, with stricter constraints. I also would prefer a massive rollout of the HPV vaccine which is just as deadly as throat and anal cancer in Men. More Science, Less Demogogery...Apr 26, 2012
- How do people get away with making these claims? Seems to me that's the bigger enemy.Apr 26, 2012
- I personally went to school with people who'd had polio and walked with crutches or braces because of it. I was born the year the polio vaccine came out. My parents knew people who'd died of polio and were very happy there was a now a way to protect their children. We almost had polio eradicated, just as smallpox was. Now there are areas where people are refusing to allow their children the vaccinations and the disease has come back. Luckily, it has not reached the US....yet.Apr 26, 2012
- Yeah...if these "antivaxers" (nice term, btw, I had no idea there was a term for these people) had ever watched a loved-one suffer from the diseases prevented by the vaccines they campaign against, they wouldn't be antivaxers. It's a movement of naivete and ignorance, and it's tragic because the victims are innocent children that don't have the ability to choose for themselves.Apr 26, 2012
- I wish it were so easy. It is like telling a smoker cigarettes cause cancer etc.. They always believe the deaths will happen to someone else, or like Meryl Dorey, think the doctor is lying on the death certificate to cover the 'real' cause.Apr 27, 2012