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Hello Google TV Community:

      I am Brian Stein, one of the #GoogleTVAmbassadors, just lurking around trying to help out. I'm sitting here looking at our young little community surpass 4000 members and have realized we can be a real force to enact change that WE want.
     I can promise you that +Google TV is doing as much as they can with what they have to make our experience as enjoyable as possible. I have seen their hard work and passion first hand. Sadly, Google doesn't have any say when it comes to 3rd party content and apps. If certain content providers don't want to be a part of the ecosystem there is nothing that Google can do short of buy them and make them (wouldn't that be nice:) ).
     
      However, this is where WE can help. If the consumers start to voice their opinions, the content providers have to at least take notice. If anyone has ever witnessed a Reddit-conquest, this can be very effective.

   I propose that as a community, we focus our concerns at a new content provider or developer each week or so to ask for a proper, thought out Google TV app. If every member in this community works together, we can make our beloved Google TVs even better!

     If every one is on board with this, I say we set our sights on Hulu first, as inspired by +Scottie Rider . If you can take a moment to stop by Hulu's support page and shoot them an email, http://www.hulu.com/support/support_form ,we can do our part to help out!

 I will probably bump this once a day just so everybody gets a chance to see it, and please, please, please, share, share and reshare! :)

Thanks all!

P.S: Please remember that this action will most certainly never see immediate results. Do not let this stop you for making yourself heard!

+Hulu Plus , TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!!

Edit: Say it loud and proud in the comments if you did your part! :-) 
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+Dave Shula While I might agree with you about Hulu and commercials I still support trying to get them onto GoogleTV.  If we can convince Hulu to have an app, the next company will be easier to convince.  
 
Haha +Dave Shula I agree with your sentiments.. I personally don't use Hulu Plus (yet) for the same reasons, but I know that it is pretty popular and noticeably missing from the Google TV line up.
 I am on the Netflix and Amazon Prime diet as well, but I beg you to shoot them an email for us anyways.. what's good for the goose is good for the gangder... or something? 
 
Touche +Derek Belrose , as would I! Perhaps, we can make that our next target. As it stands, at least we can access Amazon's content (albeit clumsily). Hulu is the biggest and most stubborn of them all... You know you wanna email 'em ;)
Erich W
 
+Brian Stein what about an ndk for +Google TV   thats something that the google tv group could create but still hasn't even with our requests for it
 
Haha I just reached out to a dev on Reddit about getting it compatible with Google TV.. Fingers crossed!
 
+Erich W That would be something to direct at +Google TV  themselves. I am not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying this post was created in mind about 3rd party content providers and developers (and specifically Hulu this go around).
Erich W
 
+Brian Stein Thanks I just sent a request to Hulu for Google Tv compatibility
 
> Sadly, Google doesn't have any say when it comes to 3rd party content and apps. 

Well but there is a lot they can do. As an Android developer I had no idea how to develop for GTV until I bought one and decided to look into it. Then I discover my app was not showing on the GTV market because I had to change a few lines in the .manifest to make that happen. Obviously, there's a lot of improvement Google could do to increase the amount of apps here. I'm sure there are many other devs in the same spot I was, who only didn't make our apps available for GTV because we didn't know how to. So google could better spread the word, the developer app dashboard could be saying something about it, just like they're pretty loud about advertising our apps in their network, they could use that channel to let us know we could make a simple change to get our apps on TVs. Lint could let us know inside eclipse. But even better, they could make GTV support default for target API version > whatever, from now on.

So yea, there's a lot google could have done to better increase third party support for gtv.
 
Also it's worth mentioning that part of the lack of apps in my GTV are directly apps made by Google. For example, I cannot have GTalk or G+ on my GTV.

But more on topic, I have emailed a few developers asking for them to support GTV. TuneIn radio was the last one I emailed, I'm really missing that app. Hulu specifically doesn't work on my country in the first place, so I don't care about them.
 
+Vandré Brunazo Hey, I wish that there were more clear resources top help get yours and others' apps onto GTV. Perhaps something like the "Android Guidelines." I think that is a worthwhile idea. However, I don't think it should necessarily be as easy as flipping a switch to get your app to show up on the Google TV market. If Google wanted to, they could make every app on the market available on the GTV.. So why don't they? Well most apps have no business being on the TV or were not designed for the TV. It is like when people started using iPhone apps on the iPad.. It was a crappy experience. If all the apps for GTV were crappy experiences, then that would even be worse than not having a full line up of apps in the first place.
Google is navigating new waters and they are trying to do it right. Why would have Gchat or Gmail on your communal device, where everyone could read it? (However, I feel like the user can decide this them self) But, I get that they are trying to get a distinct experience on GTV and want to make sure people think their apps through to provide the best experience. I mean look at the crap that is Amazon VOD...

But more on topic, I am glad that you are already active and vocal. I would love to try to target TuneIn radio for you as a community! But this week, I chose HULU. I would appreciate if you could shoot them an email anyways :-) 
 
I started using Hulu+... the commercials are annoying, but it was less expensive then Amazon... So I picked my poison I guess. (At least it's not as expensive as Cable and less commercials to boot...)

As for getting them to make apps- I fully agree. Even if you don't use them personally- I've said before I'm of the opinion that the switchover from normal app navigation to web navigation for popular destinations like Amazon is what drives a lot of the "Google TV is clunky and still feels beta" comments.
 
+Brian Stein Great note, the Google TV Community is really taking off, a great place to get support from other users and #GoogleTVAmbassadors , who can help to channel ideas and concerns to Google.
 
Why amazon and hulu+ cannot be on GTV, they are on the ps3?
 
Sent my request. Thanks for the initiative.
 
I pay for Hulu Plus, and I enjoy it on my PS3 and most of my Android devices. Unfortunately not available for my Google TV yet. 
Erich W
 
here is the response I got from hulu regarding google tv

Thanks for getting in touch with us. I'm really sorry for the trouble, but I'm afraid we don't support Google TV at the moment. We'd love to add Hulu Plus to Google TV in the future though! Lots of folks ask us about it, so we definitely know there's a demand.

Before we can support Google TV, however, we need to obtain a specific set of streaming rights for our content. In addition, we also need agreements in place with our content providers, hardware manufacturers, and Google itself.

While there's no official news to share right now, if or when Google TV support is announced, you'll see it listed at ( www.hulu.com/plus/devices ).

If there's anything else I can address for you, please let me know.

Thanks,
Giorgio M.
Hulu Support
 
My response says they are currently in talks:

Hi Jarrett,

Thanks for getting in touch with us. Lots of folks ask us about support for Google TV, so we definitely know there's a demand.

The Hulu and Google teams are in discussions to bring the Hulu Plus subscription service to Google TV. There are no announcements to make at this point, but we will keep you posted when we have news to share.

If or when Google TV support is announced, you'll see it listed at ( www.hulu.com/plus/devices ).

If there's anything else I can address for you, please let me know.

Thanks,
Tara
Hulu Support
 
Hey +Brian Stein I follow way too many damn people and miss awesome posts like this. Wow. Good job man, way to put in the extra effort and try to hit home with them. Good job everyone.
 
Several weeks ago, I received an email from Hulu regarding their support for their latest Wii. I responded to that email with a simple question: What about Google TV?

The response was similar to many of the others I've read in this discussion:

Hi Dan,

Thanks for getting in touch with us. I'm really sorry for the trouble, but I'm afraid we don't support Google TV at the moment. We'd love to add Hulu Plus to Google TV in the future though! Lots of folks ask us about it, so we definitely know there's a demand.

Before we can support Google TV, however, we need to obtain a specific set of streaming rights for our content. In addition, we also need agreements in place with our content providers, hardware manufacturers, and Google itself.

While there's no official news to share right now, if or when Google TV support is announced, you'll see it listed at ( www.hulu.com/plus/devices ).

If there's anything else I can address for you, please let me know.

Thanks,
Tucker
Hulu Support

P.S. Sorry about the delay in getting back to you, we're normally a lot quicker with our responses.
 
Hulu is simply a vehicle for rights holders to try to replicate the cable model online, so one would expect nothing different as a response. When people say "Gee why doesn't Google TV have Hulu," they should be asking, "Gee why don't the broadcasters and rights holders behind Hulu have the guts to support Google TV?"
 
Thanks, +Derek Ross! I hit a little road block with how the Community Pages handle posts: it is strictly chronological, no matter how much activity is going on in a post. I was hoping to try to bump this thread to get maximum exposure to the community, but it got buried fairly quickly...
 
It is very strange that they would have the rights to stream to game consoles, Roku/WD/Netgear, smart TVs, and Blu-ray players but not Google TV. Perhaps the rights holders of their content just has a grudge against Google. Also, as long as you are just getting responses from customer support, you are not gaining any real insight into the situation.
 
It seems everyone us gettung the same responce.

Chelsea V., Dec 28 09:47 am
Hi Shawn,

Thanks for getting in touch with us. I'm afraid we don't support Google TV at the moment, but we'd love to add Hulu Plus to Google TV in the future though! Lots of folks ask us about it, so we definitely know there's a demand.

Before we can support Google TV, however, we need to obtain a specific set of streaming rights for our content. In addition, we also need agreements in place with our content providers, hardware manufacturers, and Google itself.

While there's no official news to share right now, if or when Google TV support is announced, you'll see it listed at ( www.hulu.com/plus/devices ).

If there's anything else I can address for you, please let me know.

Thanks,
Chelsea V.
Hulu Support

P.S. Sorry about the delay in getting back to you, we're normally a lot quicker with our responses.
 
+Dan Dennedy I think that you may have nailed it, and Brian's responses from Hulu seem to underscore that point. Until the content producers and distributors see that they have something to lose by closing out Google, they react very slowly.
 
Considering that Hulu + is available on Xbox, some TV's, some Android phones and tablets I do not see why it can't be on GoogleTV, so I did my part and sent a request to have Hulu + support on Google TV.
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