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Not sure about medieval spear men but hoplites did not use their spears underarm. No way. Why? The phalanx was designed for up close fighting, face to face. Try to imagine wielding a spear under arm when your shield to shield with an enemy and your fellow hoplites shields are against your back bracing against the push. Your elbow would be hitting those behind you. Your spear would either be under your own shield or wedged on the side between your shield and the guy next to you. So you couldn't thrust at angles like is said. Worse yet your thrust would be going low to high. Explain how you are going to seriously wound an enemy when shield are pressed against each other? your spear would either be forced up or down and pinned either vertical or angled at the ground. So the only injuries you would create would be the enemies feet. While their thrusting at your face. So the spear was thrust from the top of the shield, had to be. The problem with the under arm thrust above shoulder level is look at the elbow, your elbow would be hitting the guys shield or head behind you when you tried to draw back preparing for a thrust.

I agree the underarm thrust is more stable and has more force but it couldn't work in a mass phalanx fight. The reason over hand was used is the simple fact that you need your spear above the press of shields and bodies so you can actually thrust forward and back. Thrusting down at the enemies face and neck while their shields are pinned against yours. 

Don't believe me? Get a few people with some make shift shields and some thing to stand in for spears at least 6 foot long then split into two groups. Line up three deep have one side hold over hand and the other under arm then press against each other and push try to push the other group back wards then see who can thrust better.
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Chap/chapette, the notion of a hoplite grand scale sumo match is beyond utterly ridiculous. One very simple proof of this is the fact that the hoplites had 9 ft long spears. If you were going into a tight shoving match, you wouldn't carry a spear let alone one that long.
The argive grip puts the lowest point of the shieldwall right where your spear would be. Due to the round shape, there is no chance of your spear getting wedged between the two shields. 
As Lloyd shows in this very video, with the underarm grip you can very easily get your spear high and still have far more reach and control than overarm (Even when gripping in the same spot. The hand and wrist were not "designed" in a manner suitable for it. The weight hangs in the open portion of the hand and the wrist only bends slightly upwards. For these reasons, you have far less control, have to use the spear near the balance point, and your range is tiny due to your arm being almost perpendicular to your target as you thrust.

As for the shoving match itself, what makes more sense: A pushing match that achieves nothing beyond crushing your front ranks into a terrible death by suffocation or using your long spears to actually fight the enemy? If you choose option A, you are a bloody idiot. 

I could go into more detail, but I will hold off for now. I do have one question, have you ever even held a spear or shield?
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Nothing like the flu to slow you down and activate your creative side. Whipped these slippers up yesterday with an I hook and worsted yarn.  Basic how to notes below. 10 hdc around 2 hdc in each hdc  Hdc, 2hdc, hdc, 2hdc, repeat 4th row worked evenly. 5-11 ...
Nothing like the flu to slow you down and activate your creative side. Whipped these slippers up yesterday with an I hook and worsted yarn.  Basic how to notes below. 10 hdc around 2 hdc in each hdc  Hdc, 2hdc, hdc...
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I recently did some work with Ball Hank 'n' Skein . Her sweater and pattern along with my photography skills. This thing is g...
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Sometimes I sit down with no ideas to see where my hook takes me. Sometimes I work for awhile and nothing comes of it. And other's like t...
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