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Cell Phones for Emergencies

Cell phones. Almost everybody has them these days. People make those “just have to” phone calls from the supermarket, the bank, the ballgame, and most frequently from their vehicles. Used in moderation Cellular phones are a great convenience. Used carelessly they can offer you great inconvenience.

They are a big time consuming inconvenience to us because we have to take timely reports when:

You lose your phone.

Your phone gets stolen.

Your phone number gets cloned and you get a $800.00 bill next month.

And most frequently, when you take your eyes off the road and get into an accident!

Happens everyday. Time and time again.

Officer, I just set it down for a second next to the coffee isle in the store. No one could have taken it; there was nobody around!

What this lady really meant to say, is that she set her phone down while shopping, went through the check out stand, and discovered her phone missing while driving home. Thirty minutes later she returns to the store and not only can she not remember where she set it down, she can’t describe what kind it was, and has no idea what the model or serial number was.

I have to smile and say, That’s a real shame. But what I’m really wondering is why this lady is even wasting my time on a “go-nowhere” report when I could be out keeping an eye on the rush hour traffic reminding people to slow down so they get home in one piece.  A kid down the street rips off a stereo from a department store and the manager mutters “there’s never a cop around when you need one.”

After I apologize for the lengthy response time, I mutter “If that stupid lady had kept her phone in her purse and not put it up for grabs, I could have been here a whole lot quicker.” I might have even been driving through the lot and noticed a suspicious kid hanging around and stopped a crime before it happened!

You leave your phone on the front seat of your car still plugged into the cigarette lighter. The 2 in the morning burglars that cruise your neighborhood (that you never see) will smash your window, alarm system or not, and be gone in less than 30 seconds. With your phone!  By why would they have to smash your window, 9 out of 10 times the car door is left unlocked! Yes, we have very happy burglars in my city.

Use your phone for urgent calls, or for EMERGENCIES! When you are done with the phone, put it back in your purse, or on your belt, or in the glove box, but DON’T LEAVE IT OUT IN THE OPEN!

But getting to the heart of this topic, we need to talk about cell phones for emergencies. Many people don’t know this so I’m going to spell it out here.

When you call 911 on a house phone or from a payphone, is it the same as when calling 911 from a cell phone?  NO!  Here’s the difference.

When you call 911 from your home or from a payphone, the call goes directly to the dispatch center of the police department or the sheriff’s department with jurisdiction for that area. When you call 911 from a cell phone, it goes to a central dispatch center that covers numerous cities and areas, many of which the dispatcher may, or may not be familiar with.

How about an example:

You hear your smoke alarm go off one night in your house, and you awaken to find your living room on fire. You get your wife, kids, and the family dog out of the house, and you figure you’ll call the fire department from your cell phone. You call 911 and after 2 minutes of ringing or hearing a recorded message about the “high volume of calls and to please stay on the line” a dispatcher answers “ 911 what is your emergency”.

You tell the dispatcher that your house is on fire and that you need the fire department to respond. The dispatcher will ask for your address, your cellular phone number, and the city from which you are calling. There may or may not be a problem with pinpointing the exact fire department in your area. Once this is done, the dispatcher will tell you that your call is being transferred to the so and so fire department. Before you can say “huh”, another dispatcher will answer “ Fire Department, do you have an emergency?”

You stare at your house that is now an inferno and you say, “Yes, I believe that I do”. The dispatcher will ask you all over again for your address, city and nearest cross streets, and for more information about the fire. The sad thing here is that seconds count! Every second that goes by decreases the chance of saving your house. Why is this a problem?

911 doesn’t go through to the actual service that you need. In my area, 20 counties worth of mobile 911 calls go through to the Highway Patrol Dispatch center. One center for all these calls! This causes delays, recordings and being put on hold. When you do get through, if it’s not an emergency on the freeway, they TRANSFER you to the appropriate agency. This takes time!

If the man whose house caught fire, had known the direct emergency number for the fire department right down the street from his house, the response time could have been under 4 minutes. Because he didn’t, the response time would probably be near 10 minutes. Calling DIRECT saves time! Where I work, as soon as the dispatcher answers the emergency line at the fire department, the call is broadcast throughout the station of the crew that will be responding. While they are getting dressed they can hear all the details that you provide to the dispatcher.

The Captain starts thinking about the line of attack to use.

The Engineer starts thinking about the route he will take to get to your house.

The Hoseman knows that he is going to need his breathing apparatus and that this will be a “working fire”.

All this thinking is being done WHILE you are on the phone with the dispatcher, and take it from me, all this thinking and “saving time” is what makes the difference in saving your home, or saving the foundation!

What gets this thinking in place sooner, is how soon they get the call. Direct, or after a more than likely time consuming transfer from another agency. How do you avoid the delay?

Let’s say you live in JimTown Calif.  Get the emergency line number for the JimTown Police department, and the JimTown Fire department, and store them in your cell phone’s directory. Or write them down and keep them over your visor in the car, or in your wallet. Should you ever have to report an emergency while driving around JimTown California, you’ll usually be less than 3 rings away from help when you need it.

If you have to call 911 direct from your cell phone, be aware that you’ll more than likely not be talking to the agency that you need. In that case, make it easier for the dispatcher who probably has never even heard of JimTown!

“Mobile 911, what is your emergency?”

“I need the JimTown California Fire Department to report a house fire”.

Instead of making the dispatcher fish out all the information, you are telling him or her straight up that you need a specific agency, and that will speed up the transfer process. Keep in mind that if you don’t know where you are such as if you are traveling through an unfamiliar city and you need to report a vehicle accident that just occurred, you just have to do the best you can.

Here are some tips:

Call the “business lines” for the police and fire departments in your area and obtain their “emergency” numbers to record in your cell phones directory, or to store in your vehicle or in a purse or wallet.
Do the same for the agencies in the city where you work. What you will be doing is helping to insure immediate response when you need it.
If you have questions as to who the agency is that answers cellular 911 calls in your area, ask your cellular service provider. My information is based on information from my own area and will probably not apply to other areas nationwide. But you do need to know who is answering the phone when you call for help!
The scenario about the house fire was just that. A scenario. An example. But what if that was you calling 911 on the cell phone to report your house on fire and one of your children was still inside. Could it happen to you? YOU KNOW THAT IT COULD. But the real question is, would you want your call answered direct in less than 3 rings, or would you rather go through the transfer process from an over taxed central agency?

JL

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Two very helpful guides from +Beretta 

CCW (Concealed Carry) and a Five Step guide to handgun selection

http://www.coptalk.info/2014/01/07/two-very-helpful-guides-about-ccw-concealed-carry-and-a-five-step-guide-to-handgun-selection/

Always practice gun safety, but even more important is proper training!

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Sadly we have been severely backlogged with questions and are finally getting caught up. Thou some might not like the answers, they are going out to people as I type.

Keep them coming!

Some notes, please remember to give enough details with your question so we can try to best understand the issue and give an educated answer.
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If you do not want to be mentioned on the show, please let us know in the request
Not all questions will be answered but we try to answer most of them
Not all questions can be answered in a timely manner, so if its an emergency or life threatening, call 911 or your local law enforcement


http://www.coptalk.info/2013/12/28/answers-to-questions-are-going-out/

ASK A COP? - Failure to yield to an Emergency Vehicle

—–Original Message—–
From: katie
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 7:32 AM
To: info@coptalk.info
Subject: failure to yield to emergency vehicle?

If a cop already has someone pulled over on the side of the road, and you swerve around them but don’t go completely into the second lane, is that a considered a failure to yield to an emergency vehicle?

I received a ticket last night for this and I don’t feel that I did anything wrong. When the cop was done giving the car he had pulled over a ticket (I’m just guessing he did) he then turned on his lights and I pulled to the side thinking he had to get somewhere. But then I realized he was pulling me over. And gave me a ticket saying I failed to turn completely into the second lane while he was on the side of the road. However I did not fail to yield to him because I swerved around him pulling over the other car, and again pulled off to the side of the road when he pulled me over.

Would you agree that I do or do not deserve a ticket? I usually don’t disagree with cops, but a $178 ticket for failing to yield when I did in fact yield, I even slowed my car down as I went by him (because I always feel extra cautious when driving by a cop) and swerved around them. His argument is that I did not turn into the second lane on the road. However, I did partially turn into the second lane, it just wasn't a complete 100% turn into the other lane.

Do I deserve this ticket or can I go to court and fight it?

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ANSWER:

The law is often interpreted differently by different people. If you go to court and say you slowed down and partially changed lanes before passing, it will be your word against the officers. I see people disobey this law quite a bit because they just are not aware of it. If you go to court and say you knew of the law and explain the actions you took the judge may or may not side with you. In the least, if the officer doesn't show up the citation will be dismissed. Sounds like you feel you did enough while the officer felt you didn't do enough. If you feel strongly that you didn't deserve the ticket you should go to court to fight it. Just remain calm, don’t interrupt the officer, and wait for your turn to explain your side. Photos of the scene would be helpful showing your view as you approached the area. With an enlarged photo you’ll be able to show the judge exactly what you did. People with great photos and prepared for their case often have a good chance in court rather than the people who just show up empty handed and say they are innocent.

Here’s the law:

The Law

Vehicle Code 21809.  (a) A person driving a vehicle on a freeway approaching a stationary authorized emergency vehicle that is displaying emergency lights, a stationary tow truck that is displaying flashing amber warning lights, or a stationary marked Department of Transportation vehicle that is displaying flashing amber warning lights, shall approach with due caution and, before passing in a lane immediately adjacent to the authorized emergency vehicle, tow truck, or Department of Transportation vehicle, absent other direction by a peace officer, proceed to do one of the following:

(1) Make a lane change into an available lane not immediately adjacent to the authorized emergency vehicle, tow truck, or Department of Transportation vehicle, with due regard for safety and traffic conditions, if practicable and not prohibited by law.

(2) If the maneuver described in paragraph (1) would be unsafe or impracticable, slow to a reasonable and prudent speed that is safe for existing weather, road, and vehicular or pedestrian traffic conditions.

(b) A violation of subdivision (a) is an infraction, punishable by a fine of not more than fifty dollars ($50).

(c) The requirements of subdivision (a) do not apply if the stationary authorized emergency vehicle that is displaying emergency lights, the stationary tow truck that is displaying flashing amber warning lights, or the stationary marked Department of Transportation vehicle that is displaying flashing amber warning lights is not adjacent to the freeway or is separated from the freeway by a protective physical barrier.

CopTalk Staff

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Tis the Season:

Craigslists—Love it or Fear it?

Craigslist; seems most things bought or sold are found on Craigslist. Once a popular internet site for people to sell, buy or barter merchandise or services, it has evolved into a dangerous place for some. I’m not putting Craigslist down; in fact I still use it all the time. It’s a great place to sell, buy or give away stuff, or to find people for services you need such as garden work, hauling or skilled workers. Awhile back Craigslist became a popular place for erotic services which became a cover for prostitution. While there are still sex-for-hire ads hidden in certain categories, Craigslist took steps to reduce the amount of blatant ads for sex services.

Searching for sex from Craigslist ads is a dangerous thing to do. A lot of people are robbed or assaulted when they show up at a motel or a prostitute comes to their home. Many times the young lady someone thinks is coming over to give them an erotic massage with a happy ending brings her male friends with her who end up robbing and beating them. Are there legitimate ads for massages and casual encounters on Craigslist? Sure, but there are also a lot of criminals lurking and waiting for unsuspecting people to answer their fake ads so they can rob them. And it usually goes unreported because very few people who become victims report the incident to police due to the embarrassment or they don’t want their “significant other” to find out they were looking for sex elsewhere. Bottom line is Craigslist is a dangerous place to solicit strangers for erotic encounters.

Fake ads for rental property have really increased lately with all the foreclosed and abandoned properties out there now. Criminals break into a vacant home, change the locks, and then advertise the property on Craigslist as a rental. They request cash for 1st, last and security deposit and provide a bogus lease they printed out from the internet. The suspects then disappear with disconnected phone numbers and the unsuspecting victim gets kicked out of the house by the bank.

As for selling or buying merchandise, Craigslist is still a great place but it has also become a place for criminals to find unsuspecting victims. Criminals post merchandise with “too good to be true prices” and agree to meet the unsuspecting victim in a parking lot or shopping center. The criminals know people shopping for cars, motorcycles or electronics will show up with a pocketful of cash. Recently there have been dozens of incidents of people being robbed at gunpoint or by force when they arranged a meeting to sell or buy a laptop, ipad, motorcycle, car etc. The criminal pulls a gun and either takes the property someone is selling or takes the cash someone brought to buy an item.

We had an incident in our city where a person was selling a motorcycle and he arranged to meet the buyer in a parking lot late at night. The “buyer” and seller agreed on a price and the buyer handed the seller the cash. Immediately two other suspects walked up and pulled a gun robbing the seller of the money that was just handed to him. The “buyer” took off on the motorcycle and the suspects took off with the cash. Luckily the dumb suspect used a real phone number when he arranged the sale so police were able to use the GPS feature to track him down and recover the motorcycle. It was all a planned scam and pre-arranged robbery.

The most common robbery is when unsuspecting victims arrange to sell or buy a laptop or other electronics and are asked to come to an apartment complex. When they arrive they are met out front or in the parking lot by suspects with a gun who take their property and cash. It still happens daily even though the incidents are usually in newspapers or on the news. Some police departments with large numbers of Craigslist robberies in their cities have offered their lobby to conduct transactions.

While some criminals use Craigslist to find victims, there are also people out there who use Craigslist to deceive people. I recently looked for an older Honda to buy as a commuter car and I decided to purchase a 30-day CarFax service to run license plates and VIN numbers of cars I was interested in. I couldn’t believe the fraud I found;

Cars advertised with 95K miles or low mileage actually had 200K+ miles according to CarFax records.

Cars advertised with clean titles actually having salvage or junk titles according to Carfax.

People saying they were the original or 2nd owner while Carfax showed 12+ previous owners.

Cars advertised as “recently passed smog” actually showed numerous failed smog tests and were labeled a gross polluter according to Carfax.

Cars advertised as never being in an accident were found to have accidents with major damage listed on Carfax.

The amount of cars advertised with false mileage (actual mileage much higher) or false information that was caught on Carfax was shocking. If I didn’t use Carfax I could have easily been duped. While Carfax may not catch everything, it was the best $50 I ever spent, saved me from buying a lemon or someone else’s junk.

Criminals will always find new ways to find unsuspecting victims and Craigslist happens to be an easy way to find victims for them. While Craigslist is still a great place to buy, sell, barter or find services, you need to take precautions.

· If it seems too good to be true follow your instincts. Criminals advertise non-existent cars and merchandise at ridiculously low prices to attract a fast victim. A 2004 Honda Accord for $5000 or a high-end laptop for $500 will attract many people with a pocketful of cash.

· Be wary of sellers or buyers wanting to meet you at nighttime or want to meet in a parking lot like an apartment complex. Offer to meet in daytime at the local police department lobby. Or meet inside a Starbucks or other business where there are a lot of other people around. If it’s a criminal looking for a victim they probably will refuse to meet at safe places like that. If a seller offers to meet you at their residence it’s much safer than a parking lot.

· Don’t fall for “too good to be true” prices. It may be stolen property you are purchasing or you are being set up for a robbery.

· Don’t solicit sex from Craigslist. While some people may have had uneventful encounters in the past it’s a matter of time before they get robbed.

· Verify the license plate or VIN number of big purchases such as a motorcycle or car to make sure it’s not stolen. Make sure the seller has a title that is preferably in their name. Never give cash in advance without a title.

· Be wary of taking a pocketful of cash to buy a car. In the least, leave the money in the trunk of your car or locked in the glove box until you feel the sale is legitimate. Or see if the seller will accept a small deposit and arrange another meeting at a police department or busy location to finish the transaction if you feel more comfortable.

· If possible do not go to transactions alone, go with another person.

· Keep serial numbers and model numbers of property you are selling. If you do get robbed the police can enter the information into the stolen property system.

· Verify rental property before you give a large amount of money to someone. Be wary of a renter wanting all cash for deposits. Ask to see a driver’s license and copy down the license number, name and address. Also copy down the license plate number and description of the car the person showed up in. In the event you were duped at least the police have a lead to go on.

· If buying a car, get it checked out by a mechanic. If that is not possible, at least run a Carfax on the car to find the history on it. If you purchase Carfax (one time and unlimited 30-day option) it shows you how many previous owners, any damage or accidents reported to them, if the title is clean or salvage, passed and failed smog checks, service records, mileage inconsistencies etc. It really can steer you away from someone trying to deceive people to unload a junker. Also be wary of people selling a car that is not in their name or one they have only had a short time. These people usually buy a wrecked junker, put a few parts on it to make it look OK then flip it for a profit. The car may have major problems or damage that isn’t visible.

Bottom line is being careful. Craigslist can be a wonderful place for some and a bad experience for others. Be careful; use your head and common sense.


http://www.coptalk.info/2012/09/17/craigslistslove-it-or-fear-it/

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An article we wrote about how Domestic Violence affects society from the cops perspective... We are just rolling out the revamp of our www.coptalk.info website to really cater to reader questions.

So feel free to submit your questions you have always wanted to ask cops here: http://www.coptalk.info/ask-a-cop-ask-us-a-question/

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Whatever Happened To Manners?

January 26th 2013

Webster’s definition of manners:

Etiquette, Decorum, Refinement, Good Manners, Polite ways of social behavior.

I was on patrol the other day when I saw three teens crossing the street. Actually, they were jaywalking but what caught my attention was that two of them were eating from a fast food bag and dropping the wrappers in the street as they walked. I stopped next to them and asked them if they dropped something. After a few replies of “huh?, I asked them how they would like it if I went to their house and threw a bunch of garbage and wrappers in their yard and their reply was “this ain’t nobody’s yard”. I felt like asking them if their mama ever taught them any manners but from the looks of how these rebel teens acted, I already knew the answer.

I told them I didn’t appreciate them throwing their garbage down in my city and I made them walk back in the street to pick up the wrappers. The only real satisfaction I got was that there was a slight breeze blowing and the wrappers were now some distance away and still blowing away. I sat and watched as the teens chased the wrappers down the street and returned with them in their hands. They also had quite a mad and embarrassed look on their faces. Not embarrassed that it was wrong to litter, but embarrassed that I caught them and made them chase down the wrappers in front of commute traffic. I told them to find the nearest garbage can or wait until they got home to throw away their garbage. I’m sure the minute they went around the corner they threw their garbage down again and gave me a few hand gestures, but I had made my point to them, at least for the moment.

Yesterday I was driving down an industrial road and saw two teens on the sidewalk. One was walking and the other had a shoe off and was hopping on one leg. A forklift was stuck against a nearby curb in the middle of nowhere, away from any businesses. The forklift’s location told the whole story even before I contacted the teens. The kids lied at first telling me they had nothing to do with the forklift. After finding the key to the forklift in one of the kid’s pockets, they continued the lie with how they found the forklift in the street and tried to move it so no one would hit it.

After an area check, I quickly found the owner of the forklift and a witness who saw the kids spinning “donuts” in the street with the forklift. Turns out the kids stole the forklift from a business a ¼ mile away and drove it around until they hit the curb and broke one of the wheels. The teen that was hopping either got his foot caught in-between the wheel and curb or got it run over by the forklift. He was in great pain with a rapidly swelling and purple foot. While the kid’s father was in route to my location to take him to the hospital, I spoke with both teens that were 12 & 13 years old.

Neither teen had any remorse for stealing and damaging the forklift. Neither teen realized that they had committed a serious crime. Neither teen realized how seriously they could have been hurt, or even killed. The owner of the forklift said that he was shocked that the kids didn’t flip the forklift over the way they were driving it. Turns out that the teens were the same ones who caused over $6000 damage to a local school during a late night vandalism spree just one month earlier. The teens broke over 100 windows, set off fire extinguishers and ruined computers.

How is it that kids can do something like steal a forklift or car, vandalize property or throw down their garbage in public without thinking that they did anything wrong? It’s called manners and respect, something that a lot of kids lack today. I asked one of the teens that had stolen the forklift what he wanted to do when he grew up and he said nothing. I pressured him and asked him what he wanted to be doing 10 years from now and he finally said he really wanted to be a photographer.

This kid actually has a dream but no one knows about it due to non-caring parents at home. Instead of pursuing his dream, he’s out stealing things and ruining other people’s property. The irresponsible parents should be encouraging and helping their child pursue his dream. After meeting mom, It was obvious that she couldn’t care less about her son’s dream. She was too busy figuring out where her next high was going to come from.

I remember when I first moved into a new house with my family. A beautiful, quiet, peaceful neighborhood. Then the new high school opened up nearby and what a change when school let out. Kids throwing down garbage as they walked across the street, teens not obeying traffic lights, thinking all cars should stop for them as they shuffle slowly across the street against a red light. And one thing that really pissed me off was seeing some punk throwing glass bottles up in the air and breaking them on a brand new walking trail.

Many of these kids don’t live in the neighborhood. These are kids from other neighborhoods (often low income or run down neighborhoods) that take buses to go to “a nice school” Some are even from different cities that use a relatives address so they can to go to a new up-to-date facility. These are the same kids who ruin the school and neighborhood with their lack of respect attitude. The bus stops are full of loud disrespectful teens throwing down garbage and breaking bottles even though a garbage can is 5 feet from them. After 4 PM and on weekends after the disrespectful punks have gone home, the neighborhood is back to the quiet peaceful place it was. I’m sure I sound bitter and that’s because I am. If parents taught their children respect and manners, the world would be a much safer and enjoyable place.

I’m not going to go into gangs or teen violence here, I’m sure if you look through the archives you’ll find stories me or Jim wrote regarding those topics. But it all starts at home. I see parents throw a garbage bag out of a car window at a stoplight with kids in the back seat. How is a kid going to know that it is wrong if mom and dad do it? What I’m talking about here is the basics. Respect for other people, other people’s property, and manners.

I get in a coffee shop drive-thru line and I see a group of teens sitting at a table. One is carving something into the wooden table with a knife, another is spitting on other chairs, and the whole group is swearing and talking about their sexual escapades with girls at school. All this in front of moms with kids in the drive-thru line and customers walking by. What happened to manners? Yes, kids can be kids, but they should have some respect for others around them. When I was that age, I never would have sworn in front of a stranger or littered in front of someone. I had respect for adults, authority and other people’s property. That’s what I was taught at home.

Kids of today seem to lack respect for themselves, lack of respect for others and lack of respect for other people’s property. Kids of today seem to think nothing of telling a cop to fuc* off, steal from their neighbors or trash someone’s property. When I grew up, most kids had a two-parent household and got their butts whooped if they got out of line. That generated respect for authority and a fear of doing wrong. Something kids of today lack.

Someone needs to take responsibility. Parents, grandparents, somebody. Someone needs to teach the kids of today some manners. Someone needs to teach the kids of today some type of respect. If not, the world will only get worse and there’s no one to blame but irresponsible parents who are raising (or abandoning) irresponsible kids.

I think it’s too late for some of the teens of today but let’s start now with the young ones, or our grandkids. Let’s try to instill a little respect and pride for the community while the kids are young, and maybe one day there might be another Mayberry that we can all enjoy.
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Whatever Happened To Manners?

January 26th 2013

Webster’s definition of manners:

Etiquette, Decorum, Refinement, Good Manners, Polite ways of social behavior.

I was on patrol the other day when I saw three teens crossing the street. Actually, they were jaywalking but what caught my attention was that two of them were eating from a fast food bag and dropping the wrappers in the street as they walked. I stopped next to them and asked them if they dropped something. After a few replies of “huh?, I asked them how they would like it if I went to their house and threw a bunch of garbage and wrappers in their yard and their reply was “this ain’t nobody’s yard”. I felt like asking them if their mama ever taught them any manners but from the looks of how these rebel teens acted, I already knew the answer.

I told them I didn’t appreciate them throwing their garbage down in my city and I made them walk back in the street to pick up the wrappers. The only real satisfaction I got was that there was a slight breeze blowing and the wrappers were now some distance away and still blowing away. I sat and watched as the teens chased the wrappers down the street and returned with them in their hands. They also had quite a mad and embarrassed look on their faces. Not embarrassed that it was wrong to litter, but embarrassed that I caught them and made them chase down the wrappers in front of commute traffic. I told them to find the nearest garbage can or wait until they got home to throw away their garbage. I’m sure the minute they went around the corner they threw their garbage down again and gave me a few hand gestures, but I had made my point to them, at least for the moment.

Yesterday I was driving down an industrial road and saw two teens on the sidewalk. One was walking and the other had a shoe off and was hopping on one leg. A forklift was stuck against a nearby curb in the middle of nowhere, away from any businesses. The forklift’s location told the whole story even before I contacted the teens. The kids lied at first telling me they had nothing to do with the forklift. After finding the key to the forklift in one of the kid’s pockets, they continued the lie with how they found the forklift in the street and tried to move it so no one would hit it.

After an area check, I quickly found the owner of the forklift and a witness who saw the kids spinning “donuts” in the street with the forklift. Turns out the kids stole the forklift from a business a ¼ mile away and drove it around until they hit the curb and broke one of the wheels. The teen that was hopping either got his foot caught in-between the wheel and curb or got it run over by the forklift. He was in great pain with a rapidly swelling and purple foot. While the kid’s father was in route to my location to take him to the hospital, I spoke with both teens that were 12 & 13 years old.

Neither teen had any remorse for stealing and damaging the forklift. Neither teen realized that they had committed a serious crime. Neither teen realized how seriously they could have been hurt, or even killed. The owner of the forklift said that he was shocked that the kids didn’t flip the forklift over the way they were driving it. Turns out that the teens were the same ones who caused over $6000 damage to a local school during a late night vandalism spree just one month earlier. The teens broke over 100 windows, set off fire extinguishers and ruined computers.

How is it that kids can do something like steal a forklift or car, vandalize property or throw down their garbage in public without thinking that they did anything wrong? It’s called manners and respect, something that a lot of kids lack today. I asked one of the teens that had stolen the forklift what he wanted to do when he grew up and he said nothing. I pressured him and asked him what he wanted to be doing 10 years from now and he finally said he really wanted to be a photographer.

This kid actually has a dream but no one knows about it due to non-caring parents at home. Instead of pursuing his dream, he’s out stealing things and ruining other people’s property. The irresponsible parents should be encouraging and helping their child pursue his dream. After meeting mom, It was obvious that she couldn’t care less about her son’s dream. She was too busy figuring out where her next high was going to come from.

I remember when I first moved into a new house with my family. A beautiful, quiet, peaceful neighborhood. Then the new high school opened up nearby and what a change when school let out. Kids throwing down garbage as they walked across the street, teens not obeying traffic lights, thinking all cars should stop for them as they shuffle slowly across the street against a red light. And one thing that really pissed me off was seeing some punk throwing glass bottles up in the air and breaking them on a brand new walking trail.

Many of these kids don’t live in the neighborhood. These are kids from other neighborhoods (often low income or run down neighborhoods) that take buses to go to “a nice school” Some are even from different cities that use a relatives address so they can to go to a new up-to-date facility. These are the same kids who ruin the school and neighborhood with their lack of respect attitude. The bus stops are full of loud disrespectful teens throwing down garbage and breaking bottles even though a garbage can is 5 feet from them. After 4 PM and on weekends after the disrespectful punks have gone home, the neighborhood is back to the quiet peaceful place it was. I’m sure I sound bitter and that’s because I am. If parents taught their children respect and manners, the world would be a much safer and enjoyable place.

I’m not going to go into gangs or teen violence here, I’m sure if you look through the archives you’ll find stories me or Jim wrote regarding those topics. But it all starts at home. I see parents throw a garbage bag out of a car window at a stoplight with kids in the back seat. How is a kid going to know that it is wrong if mom and dad do it? What I’m talking about here is the basics. Respect for other people, other people’s property, and manners.

I get in a coffee shop drive-thru line and I see a group of teens sitting at a table. One is carving something into the wooden table with a knife, another is spitting on other chairs, and the whole group is swearing and talking about their sexual escapades with girls at school. All this in front of moms with kids in the drive-thru line and customers walking by. What happened to manners? Yes, kids can be kids, but they should have some respect for others around them. When I was that age, I never would have sworn in front of a stranger or littered in front of someone. I had respect for adults, authority and other people’s property. That’s what I was taught at home.

Kids of today seem to lack respect for themselves, lack of respect for others and lack of respect for other people’s property. Kids of today seem to think nothing of telling a cop to fuc* off, steal from their neighbors or trash someone’s property. When I grew up, most kids had a two-parent household and got their butts whooped if they got out of line. That generated respect for authority and a fear of doing wrong. Something kids of today lack.

Someone needs to take responsibility. Parents, grandparents, somebody. Someone needs to teach the kids of today some manners. Someone needs to teach the kids of today some type of respect. If not, the world will only get worse and there’s no one to blame but irresponsible parents who are raising (or abandoning) irresponsible kids.

I think it’s too late for some of the teens of today but let’s start now with the young ones, or our grandkids. Let’s try to instill a little respect and pride for the community while the kids are young, and maybe one day there might be another Mayberry that we can all enjoy.
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Can I buy a Motorcycle Helmet from Europe and use it in the USA?


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Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 12:15 AM
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Subject: motorcycle helmet

I want to purchase a motorcycle helmet from Europe and they are ECE approved and I was wondering if I can use a ECE approved motorcycle helmet in the United States 


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No it will need to be DOT approved to be sold in the US

DOT standard

The US official law states that all motorcycle helmets sold in the U.S.A. must be DOT "certified". Helmets that do not meet the minimal DOT certification standards may not be sold as "motorcycle helmets."

Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) provides the requirements for "DOT" certification of all helmets sold in the United States for use by motorcyclists.

ECE 22.05 standard

Economic Community of Europe (ECE) is actually the most commonly used motorcycle helmet safety standard internationally. The ECE 22.05, required by over 50 countries worldwide. One of the advantage is U.N. Economic Commission for Europe ECE 22.05 requirement for mandatory batch testing of helmets before they are released to the public. 

This means that the quality of the helmet in meeting the ECE 22.05 standard is assured by the compulsory sample testing of every production of helmets before they leave the factory.

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Chinese Ammo Warning

A guy came into the police department the other day to ask a favor. He had an S&W 629 (.44 Mag) that he wanted to dispose of after a mishap at the range. He said there was a loud bang when he tested his new ammo (Chinese made), and the gun smacked him in the forehead, leaving a nice gash. When the tweety birds cleared from around his head, the pictures show what he saw.

Bet he never uses Chinese made ammo again! 

Looks like when the round in the chamber went off, it also set off at least two other rounds in adjacent cylinders. I would have hated to been the one that pulled the trigger on that one!

Stay Safe - buy quality ammo only....
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