Profile

Cover photo
Holger Göbber
22 followers|29,388 views
AboutPostsPhotosVideos+1's

Stream

Holger Göbber

commented on a video on YouTube.
Shared publicly  - 
 
The problem that the barbarians in the army caused the downfall is that a period of 300+ years of this practice is not really much of a downfall, but a mild downward slide easily caused by other factors.


The problem really starts more with the lack of central authority and legitimization that allowed random generals to declare themselves imperator without getting crucified. Probably why the latter kingdom sought strong legitimization via Divine right so not everyone could try to usurp power.
1
Add a comment...

Holger Göbber

commented on a video on YouTube.
Shared publicly  - 
 
I think you use undue relativism here. The issue was never about the rules but what your rights are about those rules.  Rule of law, democracy, basic rights, independant legislative.

You also ignore motivation. A woman forced to marry to breed to enhance the economic situation of a manor estate is galaxies away from a child taken away from a parent to protect the child!

So no, having your children taken away today is not worse than a woman being forcibly married to someone because everything else has evolved dramatically. The issue of complaint is legal status and in our free society the paramount ideal of everyone being allowed to make his or her own choice assuming they do not negatively affect others. 

People in 200 years will not be outraged that we took maltreated children away from dysfunctional families they at best would be outraged at how we attribute rights and checks and balance of our social and political system. Possibly the idea that a child belongs to its parents might be even abhorrent precisely because  you believe a parent has privileges on "owning" a child. They might think that any child should have the best chances it could get and not be hampered by being in a crappy, dysfunctional family because we subordinate the child's interests to a vague special status of the parents.
I'd say that's actually a more likely extrapolation of our modern interpretation of human rights, the derived child protection laws and western ideals of liberty and equality.

I agree on looking at history from the people in that time to understand their behaviour but imho you missed on why these ideas have changed in the first place.
1
Add a comment...

Holger Göbber

commented on a video on YouTube.
Shared publicly  - 
 
It seems the problem derives from the definition of "massive wounds", There are plenty of examples of ghastly looking but overall superficial wounds. I would however argue the reverse was just as often true, it just would not be reported that a lethal looking blow was immediately lethal.

More interesting is probably the middling ground of incapacitating wounds which were reognized as such, e.g. some dueling rules apparently considered a man defeated when wounded in the legs and incapable to stand anymore because a person that was wounded that way would be killed on the spot in most cases as they become incapable to effectively defend themselves.

And finally most fights would probably end with a coupe de grâce aka one guy got pummeled and is weakened due to a wound and the other guy would apply a certain kill blow to end this man's life.

So I agree with the Hollywood idea of people falling dead being false but that in reversal that the "fought on after massive wounds" was so often reported because it makes an exciting story precisely because it is unusual to happen.
1
Add a comment...
Have him in circles
22 people
Jenrik Storm's profile photo
Usama Abu-Pascha's profile photo
Thomas Rahlf's profile photo
René Körting's profile photo
Andreas Helge's profile photo
Miriam Jano (Noack)'s profile photo
Massimo Curatella's profile photo
Paolo Pustorino's profile photo
Alesya Krun's profile photo

Holger Göbber

commented on a video on YouTube.
Shared publicly  - 
 
Pretty stupid assessment of Klose. The reason he is the #1 striker of Germany is precisely because he is not just a goal poacher but also contributes a lot to the team for a striker including preparing goals, joining in midfield etc.
Gomez and Kurányi were far more of the traditional strikers camping in the penalty area waiting for a goal which is the reason they never stayed in the team.

The difference is really that he is a team player and doesn't need the glamour of other superstars. That's why he is in the national team despite the major overhauls by Klinsmann and Löw for such a long time.
26
Zephyr751's profile photoreivenesque's profile photoswanpride's profile photoTeam Bombersports's profile photo
4 comments
 
Absolutely agree. It's a sad indictment of modern football culture that we prioritise skills and trickery/individuals over team players. Rio bemoaning a lack of skills was just rubbish - Klose hasn't somehow fluked those 15+ WC goals, just tapping in all of them. He is so much more than that as a player.
Add a comment...

Holger Göbber

commented on a video on YouTube.
Shared publicly  - 
 
like your historic rants right beside lindy's!
1
Add a comment...
People
Have him in circles
22 people
Jenrik Storm's profile photo
Usama Abu-Pascha's profile photo
Thomas Rahlf's profile photo
René Körting's profile photo
Andreas Helge's profile photo
Miriam Jano (Noack)'s profile photo
Massimo Curatella's profile photo
Paolo Pustorino's profile photo
Alesya Krun's profile photo
Links
Basic Information
Gender
Male
Holger Göbber's +1's are the things they like, agree with, or want to recommend.