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Would Google+ work well for conference microblogging? Everybody is now using Twitter, but it would be so much nicer to have the messages connected (remember FriendFeed?)
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But they'd be longer than 140 characters. Which may not be an advantage. :-)
 
If I remember correctly, FriendFeed messages had no size restriction as well and micro blogging several conferences worked really well. I think that the pace of talks and presentations has more impact on the length of a message than a arbitrary character limit :-)
 
FriendFeed is perfect for conference blogging. But everybody stopped using it at conferences in favor of Twitter, ca. early 2010.
 
Which is why I never follow conference microblogging anymore - almost zero content.
 
Ooooh, we'll have our FriendFeed experience back! :)))
I'm not quiet sure if everyone will feel comfortable with getting them a Google account before joining the conversation. (At least not in the german librarian community.)
 
Let's see how many people use Google+ at the next conference. And how well Google+ works on a mobile device.
 
@Lambert: very rarely, but yes. Not often enough to make it worth the while, though.
 
Twitter works perfectly for content, but multi-user discussion don't work there.. that's where FriendFeed shined.. and G+ might fit.. but yes, lets see about adoption and tools for mobile use..
 
I disagree about the utility of twitter at conferences - there are some people who are able to condense the most salient points into tweets - there's an art to it
 
what seems to be lacking is the idea of rooms - like setting up some place for people to go before the conference to aggregate conference information
 
Twitter was good for broadcasting info from conferences, and for watching said broadcast, but not good for discussion. I'm most excited about Google+ as a Friendfeed replacement (and hope that I can lure people from Facebook over here, too.)
 
This place is getting busy. The Room/Group concept works well for conferences, I don't know yet how to do that in G+ as Circles are clearly something different.
 
+Lambert Heller I agree. So far they're counting on the people who already have Google accounts. Quite a few of those, but no idea if that's enough for a critical mass.
 
Agreed about limits of Twitter for large discussions (and this is actually something that can be measured quite well -- conversations on Twitter tend to break down after a certain number of turns).

Christina & William: perhaps circles could be used in an ad-hoc fashion for room-like functionality?
 
Circles are like tags, easy to apply and overlapping. I can see doing an "all circles" broadcast asking who's interested in conference updates, making a circle from the respondants because it's so easy to do, and other people following it. Not sure how conference attendees would coalesce around one as with hashtags.
 
Wecome back to FF Mk II folks ;). The only problem with Martin's suggestions that I see for now is that G+ is relatively limited and exclusive - most of the people I might want to reach by tweeting cancer conferences (scientists, oncologists, pharma people etc) are on Twitter not G+ but if more people come over here as the access widens, I can see it having utility. I suspect many of them won't though and then there is a huge group who aren't on Twitter but follow the tweet aggregator I post on my blog from ASCO or wherever...
 
@Cornelius && Mr.Gunn: Can't see how google won't add something like Groups to the entire eco-system. It is a pretty obvious use-case.. call it public circle and let people opt-in by dragging themselves into the circle..
 
Interesting thought, Daniel. Right now I see circles as something personal rather than public/everyone can just opt in. But yeah, that might change.

Thing is: I don't really need a Twitter replacement. Twitter's alright the way it is. FB, on the other hand, already feels less useful than G+ to me.

Not sure things always need to converge. Most people I know assign different functions to microblogging vs. social networking and would probably not want to merge the two.
 
:-) Really no need to replace Twitter :-) Let it die in peace, I won't be missing it a bit :-)
 
+Sally Church I agree, it really depends on the popularity of Google+ vs. Twitter. The next big conference for me will be Science Online London in September.
 
do you have two accounts here? It keeps putting down your email instead of your name when I type it in with the +
 
I have a G+ account, a Google Apps account (not connected to G+) and a Gmail account (not connected to G+). Not sure what Google does with them.
 
If I use the one with your picture above +*****-hannover.de it shows your email my end instead of your name - kinda weird :o)
 
+***** I could say the same about FF... not that I'm really all that attached to Twitter. But everything has its use for someone, including Twitter.. 
 
What do you mean, "Everybody stopped using FriendFeed in early 2010"? Several people including myself microblogged the International Human Microbiome Congress in March http://friendfeed.com/ihmc2011, and I hear ISMB is on FriendFeed again this year. I'm just saying...
 
+Ruchira Datta This is of course just my personal impression from the conferences I go to, e.g. the Science Online conferences in North Carolina and London. We had more FriendFeed activity in 2009 than 2010, whereas Twitter use is exploding.
 
+Martin Fenner +Sally Church Google is actively working to integrate G+ into Google Apps and Google RealTime. Since science people have specific needs, I would encourage you to request specific features ASAP. The G+ team is intently listening to many people now and have let us know they want our feedback
 
Twitter didn't get any more useful in that frame of time: difficult to aggregate with parallel sessions, too slow, too short to convey meaningful messages in a science context. FriendFeed allows to comment on a feature in one room, no aggregation necessary, new users can find the content in one place. In the case of the ISMB it was and will be linked from the official website.
 
+Roland Krause I agree 100% - the fact that your comment has more than 140 characters says it all. Unfortunately nobody is using FriendFeed anymore at the conferences I go to.
 
A decent FF room has to be set up and organized. And it relies on the presence of skilled people (basically +Allyson Lister and +Ruchira Datta ) to provide readable content as well as communication discipline. If you have to many contributors commenting on James Watson's yellow sweater, it's difficult to get the talk across. Not that it would matter what Watson's saying these days.
 
Thanks +Roland Krause that's too kind :) I agree that Twitter simply isn't up to the task of providing readable (for me, at least) and nicely viewable microblogged content both during and after a conference. Twitter is useful in many ways, but this just isn't one of them. FF still fits the bill, though I agree with +*****-hannover.de that most people (myself included) don't seem to be using FF as much any more. Saying that, however, unless there is a way for Google+ to have a public "room" rather than just personal circles, I'll still be preferring the use of FF over twitter at the next conference I attend.
 
Btw, I've very interested in theses kinds of discussions as part of my research on how scientists use (micro)blogging, so please feel free to CC me on exchanges you are engaged in (provided you feel comfortable with me eavesdropping). My FF username is coffee001 in case exciting stuff happens there.
 
(Sorry - I don't seem to be able to add +*****-hannover.de Martin properly to my note. I know others have had this problem - can anyone tell me the answer?)
 
+Allyson Lister It's my fault, I haven't yet figured out what is going on. My G+ account is not connected to a Gmail account, maybe that is the problem.
 
Ironically, I keep coming across interesting G+ discussions through other media - blogs and Twitter... So far G+ now working great for discovery. On Twitter, I almost never read the direct feeds of the people I follow, but I mostly read the saved hashtag searches, for example #oer, #oa, specific conferences, etc.
 
I came across this conversation only a few minutes ago, I'm interested in exploring how people use the backchannel to communicate at conferences, and how speakers can take advantage of it.
 
Any of you with additional thoughts on this now that Google+ meanwhile also features "Communities"? I am considering using Google+ instead of (or next to) Twitter for our annual european rheumatology convention (EULAR) next week in Madrid, any tips/hints?
We have the "Rheumatology World" (private) community (open to join however) with several subsections including one entitled Conferences, but I am still thinking of how to deal with the issue posted earlier in this thread: covering multiple sessions, it would be nice if there could be sub-subsections in G+ communities :-) ?
I will use hashtag #EULAR2013   / Thanks for any advice, greetz from the Netherlands, Michiel
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