Right now our #msloc430 team is discussing how a MOOC could be used to train managers in a large organization about performance management. The even bigger-picture goal would be that these MOOCs could then encourage CoPs to form among managers who are interested in these different aspects of talent management. We would love to hear any thoughts the community has on this challenge! , I read the blog post by Stephen Downes that you posted and it got me thinking a lot about the literacies that would be required from people within the organization in order for the MOOC to be well-received and effective. Thank you for the helpful resource! , your post on the 'MOOC Monster' was incredibly interesting; do you think that people within an organization may share the same attitude toward a MOOC as they do in higher education?
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- Thank you for your reply,! The master gardener course sounds like a really interesting and effective project. I really do like the idea of not necessarily explicitly saying, "this is a MOOC" because that does open up a door into more explanation, possible pushback or confusion, etc. If the idea is to engage people and have them commit to the training and be inspired to then stay in touch with an emerging CoP, then it definitely makes sense to set it up to form more organically. , I'm also struggling with separating CoI and CoP as we work through these projects - there really are tons of overlaps.Mar 4, 2015
- http://idreflections.blogspot.in/2015/02/moocs-in-workplace-learning-part-5.html and I think she said something very important with regard to COI and COP:I just read post
"They can enable the formation of Communities of Interests (CoIs), which can evolve into Communities of Practices (CoPs) if participants are keen on building the domain knowledge and practices."
So in practice, you'll probably find that COI and COP look more like this: https://twitter.com/mark_barratt/status/565428947799015424 and you may not know which one your in or not in.
In the end, perhaps the most helpful questions is to ask about the end goal: What is it that you would like this group of people to do? And what stages might the community go through to get to that end goal?
CoPs are interesting.
My experience with CoPs (I'll preface this by saying my CoPs have been pretty large in number) is that a lot of time people don't have any idea they are in one - even if you try and tell them they might not understand or pick it up. And, as a facilitator, you might not really know you have transitioned from having a COI to a COP until one day one person asks a question, and another answers back. Then the next day more people answer back, and people start to share how they are doing things in their own work. It can kind of sneak up on you. Also, you might find that one CoP leads to another CoP and they have a lot of overlap i.e. master gardener program coordination and management and master gardener social media use.
Which is why it can be helpful, if given the resources to hire an evaluator, to identify how you are making progress and what stage of growth you are in, as seen here http://www.joe.org/joe/2012october/a1.phpMar 4, 2015
- I completely agree with what you have said. You have made a very pertinent observation with the comment "...a lot of time people don't have any idea they are in one". This is very true because most often our PLNs evolve into communities. But there are not very many defined objectives at the outset and we don't typically specify outcomes like building the domain knowledge, sharing evolving practices and such...People come together around common interests with a desire to learn and share and then become a CoP without knowing it. A good book to read in this context apart from the classic Cultivating Communities of Practice is Jono Bacon's The Art of the Community. It's about how the Linux community formed and developed the open source software. Here's the link: http://www.artofcommunityonline.org/Mar 4, 2015
- Thank you,and ! I really like thinking about how CoPs and CoIs develop, grow, and change; it's interesting to see how the lines can really blur between the two! Personally, I have been grappling some with how a CoP can really be "engineered", as it really does seem to be something that is really formed organically...sometimes (as Sahana quoted) without its members even being aware of it happening! Your thoughts and resources are really helpful in our work to develop this project surrounding the MOOC, as we can see how the course can be used to encourage CoPs to emerge. Perhaps we need to be thinking a lot about the follow-up that happens once the MOOC concludes...Mar 4, 2015
- Yes, I think you are wise to think about how to support the followup growth of the CoP. I think the resources needed to nurture CoPs are often overlooked. The resources in week 3 and 4, have good ideas about how to nurture the community, as does who has posted in this community. book recommendation looks interesting too.
I forgot to mention one tip! If you are developing a MOOC/training, you might like to consider how to engage hopeful members of the CoP in the content creation of the MOOC from the beginning (possible roles could be co-creator, reviewer, idea generator, etc...). This could give them a sense of ownership and advocacy for the MOOC. We did this with the model I mentioned earlier, and that is why we have a FB group that is emerging as a CoP.
The people/master gardeners that helped to co-create the content wanted to share this information with a larger group, so they invited people in, fielded requests to join, and welcomed new members in, which takes a lot of time, but is soooo important!Mar 5, 2015
- MOOCs can be catalysts for emergent CoPs. You might read how +Jenny Mackness has been thinking about this in terms of CoPs of academics. her blog is https://jennymackness.wordpress.com/ The bottom line is people have to see value and have enough pain in their lives that the value addresses so they will TAKE TIME to engage. It seems this is getting harder and harder than it used to be. Maybe we are all FB and G+ing too much to really go deeper? So perhaps the MOOC engineering is the crafting of the invitation in the context of real need.Mar 5, 2015