Thoughtful post by top YouTubers- what is the sentiment out there? Do many of you agree with the conclusionsdraws in his artcile?
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- Unfortunately the Saturday deadline was not met. Still losing subscribers and the new ones I am receiving are not registering. (i have the email notifications enabled to monitor subscriptions since the purge)May 26, 2012
- I have now experienced it myself, youtube unsubscribing people. I wake up today and YouTube unsubscribed me from my boyfriends channel when I was just watching his latest video yesterday. I can only imagine how many of those 4,000 accounts that YouTube deleted from my subs are actually people who love and support my work. They probably think that I'm not uploading, when in reality it's because YouTube took them away from me. That's a serious issue. It's hard building an audience. If it in fact was just dead accounts, that would be fine but it's also real, active, supportive subscribers getting the boot. Is YouTube trying to find a way to correct that? Go through and resubscribe the active accounts that were deleted? Thanks for listening.May 27, 2012
- All these recent changes have DESTROYED my once very successful YT partnership . My channel is now losing over 1.5 million views a month . The RELATED & RECOMMENDED algorithm changes have caused a 75% decrease in our view counts and revenue .
What I find most frustrating about many of these issues is the lack of communication this company has with it's creators . I wonder how the CEO's of GOOGLE would feel if they picked up their paycheck and it was 50% less then what it was suppose to be, and when they went to the accounting department they were told --- " I'm sorry we don't actually communicate with people here , this whole company is run by one big computer , you need to go file a complaint that will most likely never be answered on the Google HELP FORUM website ."
Instead of spending 300 million dollars to create and promote channels for Hollywood celebrities and producers , maybe this company could buy a TELEPHONE and hire a PERSON to answer it .
Any partner or publisher that earns over $15,000 a year in ad revenue for the company should be given a phone number to a PARTNER SUPPORT HOTLINE ..........Jun 1, 2012
- As a very small YouTuber myself, I cannot comment personally on any of these issues, however I am a consumer of a LOT of content on here across a wide range of channels that range from folks in the Top 10 most subscribed to "nobodies" like myself.
Since the optional Beta period of Cosmic Panda and the eventual site-wide changes, I've seen an increasing amount of partners at all ends of the scale talk about the effects of all the changes being employed by YouTube.
Most are taking it extremely personally, especially because they have been given no support or warning about these changes and feel that the communication they once enjoyed with their partner liaisons about this sort of thing has just stopped.
YouTube created a platform where people could make full-time incomes from their creative work and rewarded those who worked really hard at it. It seems now that the care that was once given to those hard working content creators has gone and is being replaced by a very stale corporate front with no real human interaction anymore.
I've seen relatively small partners that still made their full-time income from their YouTube content report that they have had to go out and get jobs because their statistics have dropped so severely.
People that quietly enjoyed the successes of their channels and experienced a natural, organic growth (without spamming viewers with messages begging them to subscribe but still succeeding upon the fact that their content is actually enjoyable) but cannot support their real world costs of living with an income that has been cut by up to 75%.
Here in Australia, a number of our partners that are full-time YouTubers have been extremely vocal about this for much longer than the rest of the world because our cost of living over here is a little different and the initial changes REALLY hurt their businesses. Some have had to give it up altogether to rejoin the workforce, which is something I would have thought would be the LAST thing that YouTube would want for their partners.
One of my biggest gripes, personally, is the change to the Partner Program - don't get me wrong, I like being a part of the NEW PP, but I don't appreciate the fact that I've basically been told that I "missed the boat" for the full program, that all the "perks" that were offered are now basically gone. This has cheapened the idea of working with YouTube and made it much less of a viable idea that it can be a full-time income generating path.
The biggest complaints I've heard, across the board, are:
- Views on videos have dropped by upwards of 75% for some partners
- Subscriber counts have dropped. NOT due to the removal of dead accounts, but from accounts being UNSUBSCRIBED from the partner channels (I've heard this reported by dozens of Partners losing subscribers and by dozens more viewers that have discovered they've been unsubscribed from some of their favourite YouTubers)
- Related videos no longer truly reflect ACTUALLY related videos and, along with the Reply Girls fiasco, viewer retention within one's own channel and one's own related videos has dropped significantly
- Videos aren't making it into the Subscriptions box. (I've noticed this personally - we aren't talking about the Activity Feed because I hate that and never use it; we're talking actually clicking "Subscriptions" from the little drop-down under our name in the top-right of the site. Case in point: I haven't seen a single video from Phillip De Franco show up in my subscriptions or my activity feed in well over six months. I used to watch the PDS Show every day, now I have to go searching for it, but I am still definitely subscribed to his channel...)
I don't know what the answer is in all of this, but one would think that YouTube, the engineers and the staff asking us what our opinions/upsets are have enough data to make an informed choice about the future of the site.
Two more things: When the YouTube home page changed several years ago, we lost the "Featured" videos section and also lost the regional home pages. By this, I mean I have several Aussie YouTuber friends that were just getting to the stage where they could work full-time on their videos because of the Australian trending videos, featured videos, etc.
Their views halved overnight with that change and nothing was done about it because the American YouTube community and high-end partners got a LOT more exposure because their already popular content got a MASSIVE kick by replacing our local featured content.
This change is revisiting that mistake, only it is affecting the whole world of YouTube partners, not just little pockets. Locking one area out in the cold might work once, but do it to the major money makers and you'll eventually start to see declines in your own bank balances...
The other thing is the integration of Google+
Personally, I love Google+ but I don't have a practical application for it as a network. Yet.
I feel like Google+ would be the PERFECT network for someone that has the TIME to curate their content on here, engage with others and generally trip about. It takes EFFORT to use, conscious effort to come here and do things.
The big difference between Facebook / Twitter and Google+ is that we all know how and what to use FB & Twitter for and there's barely any effort involved. Google+ is something that requires strategy and planning and time, mostly the latter.
Very few people I know online see Google+ as useful or serious, which makes me sad. I love G+ and wish it could be tastefully integrated into all of Google's products. It would centralise practically everything we all do on a daily basis and pretty much negate the need for anything else, but it's just another add-on to a suite of sites that people only use occasionally.
EDIT - I just read a response from on his Tumblr and it reflects, much more eloquently, what I wanted to say here.
http://coreyvidal.tumblr.com/post/23366851270/youtube-is-killing-us-google-responseJun 2, 2012
- This hasn't been solved yet :( I'm getting demotivated, seriously.Dec 29, 2012
- Please, just tell us, is the "flush" still going on? At least I can recover my hope of going back to normal when this ends. Thank youJan 1, 2013