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G+RSS should be ‘baked in’. Add your voice to ours.
G+RSS should be ‘baked in’. Add your voice to ours.

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Running a Google+ Page campaign:
Taking stock and 6 lessons learned after 1 month in the saddle
Warning: this post may contain tactical name dropping

Just over a month ago +Julian Bond posted one of his occasional grumbles about Google+ not having RSS feeds for our accounts 'baked in'. And we agree with him. So +Jonathan Schofield created our Page as a Google+ campaign experiment.

Thank you to all 70 who have since reshared our proposition ( and all 300 or so who have +1'ed us or added us to their circles. But collectively that puts us at only ~0.000003% of the gplus population.

That's not enough to get our message addressed by Google, people! If we really want to make a strong case for RSS being an integral part of G+, a lot more people are going to have to join us and we're going to have to be more vocal about it.

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6 things we've learned while running this campaign page in our spare time over the past month or so…

1. Get the name right from the start
We didn't have 'RSS' in our name initially, and then when we realised we should incorporate it to help get picked up in search, we found we had to wait 30 days before we could change it!

2. Pages have major constraints on their strap line
The hovercard for a Page only shows 1 line of text that's usually less than 30 characters. That gives you a very small window to encapsulate what your Page is about (

We've tweaked and tweaked ours and now feel we have an optimal piece of #microcopy : "G+RSS should be ‘baked in’. Add your voice to ours." -- the first sentence just fits in the hovercard.

3. +Robert Scoble commented on RSS and the need to be heard in his impassioned piece on the common web…
"It’s too late to save the common web. It’s why, for the past year, I’ve given up and have put most of my blogging into Google+. I should have been spending that effort on the web commons and on RSS but it’s too late." (

We're more optimistic about open standards like RSS over the long term ( -- as are others like +Jeff Sayre and +Kingsley Idehen -- but you have to admit Robert has a point for the foreseeable future.

4. We don't have enough clout (or Klout)
If you want your message to have impact you either have to have influence already or get picked up by a few people with a big following who will make a bigger noise for you. We've been restrained about name dropping such people in our posts so far because doing so feels uncool. But let's throw caution to the wind just this one time to see if some other relevant folks with bigger followings than us would like to pitch in:

+Felicia Day has advocated RSS here on G+:
Check out the 3rd comment from +Louis Gray on her 26 October post in which he said, "…glad to have your support for RSS. At Google, we're huge fans of making information discoverable, sharable and useful." ( Hmm.

+Dave Winer: the godfather of RSS writes often at
(and not at all here, it would seem).

+John Battelle: writes great tech commentary over at and in part inspired ( Robert Scoble to rant on the demise of the common web.

+Alan Green is a Google Engineer working on Google Reader.

5. There are lots of good folks plugging holes in the G+ ecosystem
Have a trawl through our 17 previous posts and you'll find a few of them.

6. For all we know Google are listening
And working on native G+RSS. If they are, they're just not telling us! As +Mary Sullivan Frasier commented recently…

"The more deeply entrenched I become in the relationship I seem to be having with Google, the more aware I am of how skilled they are in the art of one sided conversation." (

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In closing, if you have clout, or influence on someone who does, saddle up and let's go tilting at a few windmills.

Long live RSS!

Post has attachment is a new service we've just heard about via +Robert Heine, and is made by +PIXELMECHANICS | Webproduktion. As it says on its home page:

"‘Google+ to RSS’ is NOT affiliated with or distributed by Google. This service is simply solving the issue that there is no official RSS-Feed to Google+-profiles"

We haven't used the service yet but if you have, let us know what you think.

Great though it is that people are filling this Google+ void, it would be better if they didn't have to! If you agree, please reshare our proposition:

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From +Ars Technica

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Does this add weight to the case for native Google+ feeds?
We hope so. Let us know your thoughts.
Wavii want to 'make Facebook out of Google' by…
Providing instant news feeds for any topic

"On Facebook you can get a feed for your friends. They can do this because your friends check-in when they go places, tag photos, like pages, update their relationship status, and more. Each of these common actions tells Facebook what’s happening and it converts them into feed items.

"Wavii is creating these feeds for everything else — by teaching computers to do the work your friends do on Facebook."

More on their blog:

Or click the link below and help me get a 'sneak peek' (I think)!

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10 minute screencast on maximising RSS in Google Reader…
My video on Google Reader; tips and ideas to manage RSS feeds and sharing articles, posts, and tweets.

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Embed an RSS feed into any web page (that permits scripting).

FeedEk is an RSS/ATOM Feed Reader/Importer/Parser that is written with jQuery.

View the demo:

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Host your own G+ feed
Written by +Jonathan Schofield for Feed me, Google+

While Google continue to keep schtum about Google+RSS, third party Google+ feeds have filled the gap. But they can easily fall foul of the daily limit on API queries (see the usage notes on

Well, if you're up for hosting your own feed service on your own server, worry no more, because Michael Mahemoff has stepped up…
PHP Plus-To-RSS Convertor

A Plus API project I just pushed. Just stick the PHP file on your server, including your own API key, which you get from

It supports caching, to prevent hammering the G+ servers all the time, based on a sweet little snippet +Simon Willison published back in 2003 (!), which I've also been using on my homepage for a couple years.

I've been using +Didier Girard's, which has been great, but made one I can host on my own server in case his service goes over-quota (as happened to the service I was using before that). And also as a learning exercise, as I have some other ideas for this...

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Ahem, +Jonathan Schofield fesses up… but provides a useful tweak.
I am such a doofus: Google+ > > > Twitter in 5 minutes -- reprised:

Last week I wrote about my +ifttt recipe for using to post to Twitter from G+ [1], and subsequently bemoaned the 35 character constraint of the entry title in the feed [2].

Today I have realised that ifttt's Addins for feeds [3] provide a way around this. I had been using the default {EntryTitle} that comes with a new feed Task when I should have been using {EntryContent}.

Having updated my Task (and, things are now working a lot better:

- Here's my test G+ post:
- And the resultant tweet:

Happy G+ tweeting :D

[2] +Feed me, Google+ post:
[3] ifttt feed Addins:


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What’s up ahead for Google+RSS and the Google+ API?
The short answer is we don't know, but we think we ought to be given an inkling. Here's some context and a plea…

Just over 2 years ago +Jonathan Rosenberg wrote a great Google blog post on ‘The meaning of open’ [A] in which he set out Google's approach to:

- Open technology: open standards, open source
- Open information: value, transparency and control

In commenting on why open systems win he said…

"…if you are trying to grow an entire industry as broadly as possible, open systems trump closed. And that is exactly what we are trying to do with the Internet. Our commitment to open systems is not altruistic. Rather it's good business, since an open Internet creates a steady stream of innovations that attracts users and usage and grows the entire industry. "

Where are we headed?
We’d like to know if Google+ intend to natively support RSS and Atom (an open standard they helped create and that +Tim Bray of Google co-chairs [B]), or are they intent on having all programmatic interactions go through their proprietary API.

If it's the latter, they should at least reduce the barrier to entry to using their API by documenting some examples of things people commonly want to do or take a leaf out of +ifttt's book and create some recipes that people can just apply:

So here's our plea: Google please open up and tell us if you will offer Google+RSS natively. If not, why not, and what other Really Simple options will you give us?

[A] The meaning of open:
[B] Atom: #Atom_0 .3_and_adoption_by_Google

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