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daniel m
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Question for everyone:

Google labels some posts as spam under whatever conditions it uses. I can then approve or reject them.  A common example of posts it labels as spam are posts like this:

https://plus.google.com/101908179674124458125/posts/gXQYx59XzJo

Clearly the point is to promote the facebook page, but there's also some content.  Would everyone rather posts like this be allowed or not?
"Do not fear going forward slowly; fear only to stand still" Think back over the past couple of weeks. How many times have you had to put off… - Guy Herbert - Google+
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I really despise "hey google plussers, go to my FB page and read some content" - I'm not on FB for a reason, and I don't want to be re-directed there.

And that's all I have to say about that.
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Training  - 
 
Today's workout.

A Simple Circuit:

5 x Double Kettlebell Swings
5 x Double Clean and Press
5 x Double Front Squat
5 x Double Snatch

As many good quality rounds as possible in 30 minutes.

Remember not to set the bell down until you complete one full round.
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+John Linsley It's true.  They start out easy but get brutal quickly.
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The great Ksenia Dedukhina does a five minute set of snatches with 24kg.
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She doesn't even look like she's exerting herself. Such good form. And yes, I struggle with a 20 kg bell, while she's tossing this 24 around like it's nothing.
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The 10,000 Swing Challenge  - 
 
With all this talk of the challenge, it's making me kind of want to do one again soon.  I've been focusing more on snatches lately and VO2Max so it might have to wait until February before I start it.
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The 10,000 Swing Challenge  - 
 
The 10,000 Swing Challenge is a kind of rite of passage for kettlebell enthusiasts and like almost all kettlebell programs, it's deceptively simple and sometimes brutal.  The basic concept is as straight-forward as it gets:  do 10,000 Kettlebell swings in one month.  Any combination of two-handed and one-handed you like.  10,000 Total in 30 days.

Since someone around here is pretty much always doing one, it seemed like a good idea to add a category for new or interested members to check out regarding the Challenge as well as anyone going through the Challenge now to have a place to ask questions and whatnot.

If anyone has done it before and has thoughts on it, feel free to add them.  Same goes for questions.
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Thanks for such a thoughtful response. Inspiring stuff.

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How-To  - 
 
This is one of my favorite references for kettlebell lifting in general.  Hundreds of kettlebell exercises and variations are demonstrated in precise, step-by-step color photographs and then demonstrated in motion on the DVD that comes included.  

Helpfully, the whole thing is broken down by the target area of the body so it's especially nice if you're looking for more "core exercises" or more "chest work" and so on.
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+Blair Slavin Yeah there's a lot of good stuff between them.
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How-To  - 
 
Basic Kettlebell Grip Overview

When it comes to kettlebell grip, there are two main styles.  Hardstyle (Pavel Tsatsouline popularized this one and most people start with it) and Sport Style (also called Girevoy Sport or GS for short).  Both reach for maximum efficiency, but the key in determining what works best for you lies in determining what you want to be able to do.

With Hardstyle (this is true across the whole style, not just the grip, though we're only talking about grip here), the aim is to get the most from your body on every single movement.  Let's say, for instance, that you only have time to do 10 total reps in your workout.  In that case, you want each rep to be as hard as possible so that you gain maximum benefit.  In comes Hardstyle to deliver just that:  maximum tension and stress on the muscles, heart, and lungs.

On the other hand, let's say you have time for a longer workout and you want to improve something specific (build a stronger press, for example).  In that case, you want to maximize the efficiency of all of your movements so that you can work your selected muscle or muscle group as hard as you want for as long as possible.  By increasing your physical efficiency in the movement, you keep the less important areas in your workout from interfering with the real meat of your training session. It's fine for the grip to wear out, but if it wears out before you get to smash your pressing muscles like you wanted, then you've missed a step in how you're approaching your workout.

In my opinion, both varieties have strong merits in their favor and it's just up to each person to choose the approach that best suits their goals.

In the Hardstyle grip, which is what most people learn first, you grab the handle somewhere in the middle of the handle and squeeze.  From there you swing, clean, snatch, etc.   The aim is to develop as much tension in the body at the key moments to deliver maximum gain from minimum reps.  In the case of grip on the press, for example, you would squeeze the bell as hard as you can as you press the bell upwards.  Doing this, you'll get a great benefit press-for-press, but you'll often find that smaller muscles (like grip) will wear out before you've hit the volume you want.

In the Sport Style grip, you are aiming to use almost no grip at all.  You really want to approach your hand as a connection point rather than part of the active work.    

The end goal for the grip style is to have one corner of the bell's handle rests in the nook between your thumb and index finger (the thumb web) and the handle crosses the palm as if you are cutting off the part of the palm that holds the thumb.  The other end of the bar's handle should rest down against the wrist, rather than on the palm at all.  The effect is one of leverage:  you essentially just rest the bell in that notch on your hand (in the way that provides the most structural support for the weight given the activities) and then drive up from the body with all your movements. The grip gets minimal work on each rep so you can go for more reps, more circuits, or more exercises per circuit.

In terms of getting there, the setup is fairly simple.  You stand in your swing position with the bell on the ground a little in front of you, as you would before a set of swings, for example.  However, instead of having the handlebar of the kettlebell vertical or horizontal, you want it angled about 45 degrees.  If you were using double kettlbells, it means that looking down on them, the handles would form a wide V shape.

From here, you reach down and put your fingers around the handle and slide your hand along the handle toward your body until your index finger touches the upward bar of the handle.  This is easiest on a competition style bell since those handles come up vertically from the bell.  Whichever type of bell you are using, at this point, take your thumb and put it over the top of the bell and use it to hold down your index finger down.  It looks kind of like the "okay" hand symbol except for the thumb overlapping the index finger.This is called the finger lock. The remainder of your fingers can stay loosely under the handle to provide support when needed on the swinging motion or otherwise. Here is a video that demonstrates the bell position, hand position and finger lock pretty well:  Kettlebell Quick Tip # 4 Fingerlock

If you have issues with callous tearing or pain, you will find the middle minute or two of the video to be particularly helpful.  The whole video is only about 3.5 minutes so it doesn't take much time to view.

The key when swinging upward in a snatch or clean is that instead of "punching through" the bell with your fist closed around the handle, you are simply sliding your hand as far through the handle as it will go with the bell staying in the thumb webbing. 

The ultimate effect will be so that one corner of the bell's handle rests in the thumbweb and the other upward arm of the bell is along your wrist, as described above.  Attached are some pictures that show the hand position in the rack and overhead.  You can see how the hand goes as far through the handle as you can go while keeping the bell in the thumbwebbing.  This will minimize grip fatigue so you can go about the real work of your training session.  Of particular note are the positions of the handle in relation to the wrist and hand.

If you're not sure which type of grip you use, you can either observe the bell position in the rack to see how everything is laying or you can look at the callouses on your hands.  If the biggest callouses are on the palm at the base of the ring and pinkie finger, then you are probably using some version of the Hardstyle Grip.  Sport Style grip tends to form more even callouses across the base of each finger.

As with pretty much all exercise form, it's less complicated than it sounds.  Play around with this grip style some and see if it suits you better than what you've been doing.

I should also note that this is a grip overview rather than an in-depth study which look at all the various subtle differences between GS practitioners, but this is the method I use and it's based on the Fedorenko Method.  I suspect that many people will find this grip style to be as transformative for their kettlebell experience as I have.
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+Christopher Notley Standard competition bells?  Are you sure they weren't oversized handles?  I've seen a few kettlebells that look like competition bells wth vertical handles and such, but aren't actually.

Either way, it's good that you've found what works for you.  The bottom line is that if what you are doing now allows you to accomplish your goals, then nothing else is particularly important.
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Training  - 
 
This morning's workout turned out to be a quick blaster:  

Double Swing x 7
Double KB Front Squat x 7
Double Clean and Press x 7
Double KB Front Squat x 7
Double KB Push Press x 7
Double Snatch x 7
Double Swing x 7

Repeat x 7.

It's a complex, so you don't set the kettlebells down until you finish one complete cycle.

For a nice twist,  I substituted the standard push press with the power calf variant.
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+John Linsley I've generally been more of a single heavier bell guy than doubles, but lately I've been playing more with doubles and it really does bring some interesting new challenges.

It also tightens up symmetries, especially with snatches because in order to build the lift all the way through, you really have to have everything on lockdown.  Otherwise, you're just twisting and turning all over the place, and not in a good way.

I think you'll like them once you get used to them.
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Here's a quote for all you old-time gireviks:

"There is no gold inside the kettlebell. Only raw power, android work capacity, and an immortal's ability to tolerate physical punishment. Moscow trusts no tears."

- Pavel
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The 10,000 Swing Challenge  - 
 
For those that want to use a specific program for the 10,000 Swing Challenge, here is the program Dan John created.

There's also a list of benefits he finds to be common among people who complete the challenge.

Thanks to +seth owens for finding the link for us.
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Looking forward to trying this! 
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Has anyone tried the Shock and Awe protocols?  

What did you think?
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+Andrew Vasel I find this happens a lot for me when you involve upper and lower body at the same weight.  Quads are just so much stronger than upper body so using the same weight for squats as presses either overworks the upper body or underworks the lower body or both.
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I've been working through this guy's DVD set and love it.  He has a fantastic way of breaking down each aspect of the major lifts and drilling them to perfection.  I haven't spent much time on the site, yet, but it looks great.
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Thanks for sharing +daniel m is looking at it now.
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