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Example of a failed prophecy: 
Matthew 16:26-29
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Yeah, that little lying VFX is as honest as he always was(n't).   He lied about giving money to a charity.   It's too bad that the apparent terms for him for staying offf of youtube was only two years.

People should just keep hammering that little b.s. artist over and over with his deceptions.  Maybe that will sink in?
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Ok, so in this case I was the fool.  Never mind...
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I can't help it....I swear that guy even looks like a hick.  Oddly enough, he reminds me of gomer pyle.  Who married a man in real life and pissed off the fundies big time!

No, I had no real point.
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How in the hell can god be against slavery?  Look at all the bible verses in support of it.  Even Jesus's parables support it. 
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Kip Kipper said:
"Is it of interest to anyone when the Roman Centurion came to Jesus because his "servant" was sick on the verge of death and healed his servant ? Not according to this crowd. "Slavery" (ownership) of human beings and beasts of burden etc was the way things worked in socioeconomic scheme of things in those times. Period, paragraph."
Yes, it was.  So what?  Jesus could have spoken out against it.  He never did.  Why not?  He spoke out against other things.

Kip said:
"I've been studying the Bible for over 25 years and I've never once had any inclination to think that owning another person was a good idea.. go figure. "
Yeah, that IS a stumper:
Leviticus 25:44-46
So, you studied the bible for 25 years and you never found verses like that?  This has nothing to do with David being any "exception", that was Moses' time.

You said:
"From where I'm sitting many Atheists are not   interested in finding anything good in scripture because if they did (IMO) they'd have to change their tune instead of using the same "one trick pony"."
From where I'm sitting, it's xians who are not interersted in finding anything bad in scripture because if they did (IMO) they'd have to change their tune.

Kip said:
"I've seen no one in this Atheist community make distinctions to those who were servants (and some willingly so) vs the opposition to tyranny and oppression (outlined in the bible) because nearly everyone significant figure in scripture was opposed to tyranny and I'd defy you or anyone to prove otherwise."
Oh?
Ephesians 6:5
Colossians 3:22
1 Peter 2:18
That last one especially, really is a rallying cry against tyranny, isn't it?

It's a good thing the founding fathers never found THIS verse:
Ecclesiastes 10:20
Yeah.  Don't hate the king, even in your thoughts! A bird may tell him.  Oh yeah.  That'll put those tyrants in their place!

Or maybe you're thinking of this verse?
Acts 23:5
You know:  The one that says that you're not  supposed to speak badly about the ruler of the people?


Kip also said:
"This slavery mantra is an inference of context that is used ad nauseum and it's certainly entertaining for many of you because it's often (more than not) one of the few things that's focused on while the BIbles edifying attributes are conveniently ignored. "
One of the "few things"?
1 Samuel 15:2-3
Joshua 6:21
Joshua 7:15, 24-25

Deuteronomy 22:13-21
1 Kings 21:10
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The bible has nowhere said that god is against slavery.
Leviticus 25:44-46
Ephesians 6:5
Colossians 3:22
1 Timothy 6:1
1 Peter 2:18
Titus 2:9-10
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Doesn't the OT have examples of people seeing god and living? <--to Gman at around 1 hour 11 min mark.
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But yeah....I thought it was a contradiction issue
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I have to admit; the lyrics are brilliant.
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Dusty calls those people out for what they are.  Damn straight.  "Have some fucking class"!
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Gman's answer of "why would an atheist care about" such things like slavery, etc. is not only evasive:  But it shows that without god belief, it's the theists who have a true lack of morality. 

When the theist asks of an atheist:  "Why should we act moral in your worldview", the theist is showing that without their god belief, they have no reason to act moral.

Atheists have all sorts of reasons to act moral:
empathy for others
enlightened self-interest in having a working society that we and our friends and family can be safe in, etc.
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In regards to biblical slavery:  Only the fellow Isrealites were treated well.  Foreigners did not get treated as well.
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