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Assume there are two people in the world. You and one other, Steve. Steve owns the whole world. All of it. But he tells you not to worry, you can live under one of his trees and eat the fruit there, as long as you pick a few pieces of the fruit every day for Steve. Nice deal, right? You get rent and food for just the small task of picking some fruit for Steve. That'd be like 3 minutes work; this is a big and healthy tree!

Is this a just system? Would you pick the fruit for Steve or just tell him to shove it and live under the tree without giving any fruit to Steve?

What if Steve had a giant stick, bigger than any stick you could find, and he started to whack you every time you said no? For how long would you keep saying no, before you would give in and accept the 3 minutes of fruit picking as a fair trade?

Just say you popped out a few children, and so did Steve. Steve let your kids work under some of his other trees, as long as they picked some fruit for Steve's kids to eat. Steve let his kids use the big stick too.

I reckon this is the world we live in. You're free to pick fruit and give them to Steve or you're free to get whacked by a big stick.

Peter is saying Steve should just let you have the tree and half the world because there's plenty to go around for all.

Stefan is saying that if you remove the stick then you and Steve will just get along and share the world. Some sort of balanced conflict/competition.

Peter says that just removing the stick isn't enough: you need to replace competition (for imagined scarce resources - the fear that there isn't enough for me) with cooperation. If you don't change the cultural philosophy from competition to cooperation then both you and Steve will start looking for sticks, and eventually one of you will find one, and that stick will be called the State.
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+Chad Williams "One: He doesn't tell us WHY we should care about others in the first place. Why do I care if John over there is starving to death? Sucks for him, I guess. Oh well."

the reason people should care for others is because deprived humans produce negative effects. that is it. deprivation leads to abhorant behavior, and abhorant behavior will effect other people through violence or other harmful means.

for example: a person who is starving to death may go to a shop to steal food, of course the shop keeper will not just give him the food so the person may bring a gun with him to show he is serious, then whilst being robbed the shop keeper might pull out his own gun because he feels his life is under threat.. and just like that, 2 people are dead. or another example: a parent has to work 3 jobs just to keep up with her payments, after coming home exhausted week after week, one day she forgets to give water to her child, which causes a fatal deficiency in the baby.

these are the acts of causality which need to be retraced so as to get to the source of the problem. it's not even about money or the market or anything at this point. all you have to ask is: CAN we reduce these levels of deprivation? is it necessary for that man to starve? is it necessary for that parent to work 3 jobs just to make ends-meat? if you're answer is 'no', the question then becomes: then what is stopping us from achieving this?
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the end of this is the best. the "legitimate" change is accepted. amazon as the most disruptive. interesting angle yeah? because money is respected. things for free are considered "bad". what is up with that? why can't free be good? the rich fear the [cost] free.
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+Colin Fergusson , bloody asian wannabe
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Why should everyone's needs be met? We position ourselves above other species and exploit them for our own advancement; why is it suddenly wrong to do this to others of our own species? Why should I care about the homeless man in the street? Is there a reason to do so, or just an assumed moral correctness? I understand the existence of class exploitation, but I don't understand why it is assumed to be wrong. Can someone please tell me the argument why it is wrong?
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Because if that man wasn't homeless and have to constantly work for his own survival he could instead use his time and energy to help you and everyone else living an ever better life.
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