I think Mr Helfeld was trying to see Phils political views, which is understandable. Mr Helfeld is a libertarian and uses rational questions to come to logical points and conclusions. He was not trying to "trick" Phil into anything but have him open up and tell his viewpoint using a series of questions. Phil just thought he was trying to trick him into something, however Phil might have been enlightened to the points of classical libertarianism by the interview, if he would have engaged the questions more openly. It is good to face challenges to your political beliefs as it may develop your beliefs in a new direction. I have found that the individualism nature of liberterianism hold firm to most if not all challenges and strengthens your belief.